The games can become significantly tougher if a lot of the American online pros decide to flee the United States of Anti-Poker so that they can TRY to continue making $100K+ in another country. While all the American fish are SOL from playing online, some of the best Supernova and FTP Red pros will be back playing. With all the US fish gone, there may not be enough fish for the many remaining sharks, and most players' win rate may go down. :arghh:
Which known American online pros have already said that they plan to move from the Nazi US? I read that up to 50% of US online pros may move, but I think it will be much less as many pros don't want to start a new life in another country and would be willing to make less money doing something else.
You just can't up and move to another country just to play online poker.
You have to have a legit job for starters or marry a Russian farm implement.
Why do this. Stars and tilt probably pooched in the coming weeks.
blondefish might be right, but the rod is hot NOW if you have online funds or can handle some money to be out of touch for a while.....the fish really are everywhere, had a strong session yestrday getting paid off again.....alot of pay off wizards running around trying to play hero
American Players still logged on since Black Friday are now finding Update ready to install and I guess cannot play until they download which is going to cut them from real money games.
Will continue shortly.
Other info I am gathering at the moment.
US Players cannot change their addresses to another country right now. So moving to another country or travelling to another country will be moot.
I don't think these players will be able to access their on line real money accounts and play from another country.
This includes cloaking you IP address.
blondefish might be right, but the rod is hot NOW if you have online funds or can handle some money to be out of touch for a while.....the fish really are everywhere, had a strong session yestrday getting paid off again.....alot of pay off wizards running around trying to play hero
i would like to propose that the edge hits the feild evenly.....
The video kinda sucks but the comment underneath is gold.
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The problem with you yanks is your all gonna bend over and let your government fuck you in the ass and then go off to sing "land of the free" before one of your baseball games like good little sheep,wake the fuck up muthafuckers and grow some balls,do something radical to protest about this assraping your taking because here's a newsflash for you bubba,if your sole plan of action is to whine on the internet like lil brats who had their barbie dolls confiscated then you deserve all you get!!
The video kinda sucks but the comment underneath is gold.
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The problem with you yanks is your all gonna bend over and let your government fuck you in the ass and then go off to sing "land of the free" before one of your baseball games like good little sheep,wake the fuck up muthafuckers and grow some balls,do something radical to protest about this assraping your taking because here's a newsflash for you bubba,if your sole plan of action is to whine on the internet like lil brats who had their barbie dolls confiscated then you deserve all you get!!
where is he from cause if they did this in canada, we would be helpless....
Did a small test withdrawel from FTP on Sunday, got this response today:
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First time I've ever been declined, and I've probably done 30 withdrawels in the last year.
I have changed my e-mail addy I use with FTP (about a year ago), which is different than the one I use with Instadebit....I'm going to change and see if that works.
First time I've ever been declined, and I've probably done 30 withdrawels in the last year.
Exactly the same response I got when I tried my 2nd withrawal to MB. The first one, late Friday afternoon for most of my funds, worked fine, then when I tried to withdraw the last $70. I got the same message, then when I asked for clarification Tilt told me that I had to use something other than MB since it had been suspended. On Sunday I did a test $10. deposit from MB and that worked fine. All of this info is in my posts earlier in this thread..... Strange goings on to be sure...
Some more strange stuff, I tried to log in into a euro site that I use to play at but it won't let me log in! They too (along with all poker sites that I have) have done big updates, don't know if this is because of all this u.s. stuff or not but if it is I guess we are part of the u.s.a.:rolleyes2:
Some more strange stuff, I tried to log in into a euro site that I use to play at but it won't let me log in! They too (along with all poker sites that I have) have done big updates, don't know if this is because of all this u.s. stuff or not but if it is I guess we are part of the u.s.a.:rolleyes2:
All the Euro sites that I have tried, and I have played on most at one point in time, seem to work fine. No noticable uptick in numbers as yet but that may take time. Our Canadian status seems to be still good.
So what about the guys that started with no money, won some free rolls and built it up? So far they aren't afoul of US law as no transaction has taken place to move money to or from an unsavoury operation? Still since I guess they couldn't get the money out without breaking the 'law' they have no claim to the cash.........just a what if. nothing to see here.
I do know this about the sudden disappearance of US regulars...... suddenly I'm winning money in cash games on FTP (still left a bit in account)..... games are a lot softer. B4 I was lucky to break even in the cash games (I'm mainly a SNG player)
Edit... Just got an e-mail from Doyle's Room (haven't played there in years). its business as usual for their site.... or at least they claim... Cyprus based....)
The only reason the US went this route of indicting the sites is that they would not leave the US market voluntarily.
Now that they are gone and players are getting their money back, legislation is going to be passed allowing US players to play on "approved" sites.
10-1 says that the casinos are paying the politicians with campaign contributions to get eleceted in 2012 and pass the legislation. Oh, and we eliminated your competition in the process.
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You just can't up and move to another country just to play online poker.
You have to have a legit job for starters or marry a Russian farm implement.
Why do this. Stars and tilt probably pooched in the coming weeks.
American Players still logged on since Black Friday are now finding Update ready to install and I guess cannot play until they download which is going to cut them from real money games.
Will continue shortly.
Other info I am gathering at the moment.
US Players cannot change their addresses to another country right now. So moving to another country or travelling to another country will be moot.
I don't think these players will be able to access their on line real money accounts and play from another country.
This includes cloaking you IP address.
Thanks to the u.s. government nothing right now, ZING!:D.
But seriously just observing right now and see how all of this plays out and seeing what games have traffic/bad players etc etc.
p.s.
Was that you that finished 14th on full tilt wsop qualifier yesterday?;)
Probably, and 4th in another one
The video kinda sucks but the comment underneath is gold.
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First time I've ever been declined, and I've probably done 30 withdrawels in the last year.
I have changed my e-mail addy I use with FTP (about a year ago), which is different than the one I use with Instadebit....I'm going to change and see if that works.
nvm, know what that was now... Just the Tilt Take 2 bonus...
Edit... Just got an e-mail from Doyle's Room (haven't played there in years). its business as usual for their site.... or at least they claim... Cyprus based....)
Think I am going to give party a try for a little bit.
Did you even start the Take 2? Remember if you play Party the low stakes have a high rake, it's much better at higher stakes.
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My advice, keep any material funds off these sites for the time being. Why risk losing them if the site closes down all of a sudden.
Who are these Canadian's that have been charged, Ryan Lang and Nelson Burtnick?
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As part of this Stars and Tilt get there domain names back... Looks like all is right in the world... Outside the US that is...
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Now that they are gone and players are getting their money back, legislation is going to be passed allowing US players to play on "approved" sites.
10-1 says that the casinos are paying the politicians with campaign contributions to get eleceted in 2012 and pass the legislation. Oh, and we eliminated your competition in the process.
I did. I should get 5$ but it still has not shown up.