magicz, I think you didn't spell that one correctly: winning is over stated on this thread.
dave, that video was fantastic.
moose, you must be playing with one of those rare cursed decks where it automatically deals both of the other aces to someone when you get aa.
Honestly, as hilarious and classic as this thread has been, especially looking at where we got to from where we started, I have to think that wetts is simply smarter than the rest of us. See, here's the deal: there's no way he actually believes what he is saying, but in posting these random thoughts that make no sense whatsoever, he's keeping all of us from playing, thus getting all of the fish to himself on *s.
Dear lord, it's like this guy is from CNN or FoxNews. "Let's just clip one tiny piece of a quote and make it look like we know what we're talking about while completely discrediting this person."
There isn't one person who can possibly argue the point of if you don't win, you lose (except for the occasional split pot), but I gotta tell you o' guru of math, your numbers just don't make sense, and if it doesn't make sense, it won't make dollars.
There isn't one person who can possibly argue the point of if you don't win, you lose (except for the occasional split pot), but I gotta tell you o' guru of math, your numbers just don't make sense, and if it doesn't make sense, it won't make dollars.
There isn't one person who can possibly argue the point of if you don't win, you lose (except for the occasional split pot), but I gotta tell you o' guru of math, your numbers just don't make sense, and if it doesn't make sense, it won't make dollars.
I'm confused if you agree that you are 50/50 to either win or lose... What numbers don't make sense??
It's like you are saying the thing you use to enter a building typically starts with a 'd' and ryhmes with more, and then arguing when someone says "you use a door"..
There isn't one person who can possibly argue the point of if you don't win, you lose (except for the occasional split pot), but I gotta tell you o' guru of math, your numbers just don't make sense, and if it doesn't make sense, it won't make dollars.
Actually, many situations exist where one loses but one does not really lose, and in fact that is where a lot of one's overall winnings come from.
In most sessions I see players who play a hand that wins them a really small pot, either via fancy play syndrome, or just being too passive. Whenever they win a $5 pot instead of a $100 pot, that is a ton of lost value for them and effectively a huge net gain for their opponent who should have lost more.
These type of situations will arise for all players, and those that capitalize on them will win a ton more (which is obvious winning) and lose a lot less vs these bad players, and the net effect adds up over time.
Kind of a strange way to look at it, but sometimes losing is effectively winning.
In tournaments I have loss count of the number of times I should have been eliminated but was not via strange fancy opponent play and then came back to cash. Same general concept.
Sorry to add a semi serious twist to this thread :P
In most sessions I see players who play a hand that wins them a really small pot, either via fancy play syndrome, or just being too passive. Whenever they win a $5 pot instead of a $100 pot, that is a ton of lost value for them and effectively a huge net gain for their opponent who should have lost more.
Stop trying to confuse things, you are taking a really simple basic concept and screwing up the new players. How do you know he would have won $100, are you Sylvia Brown? More likely he would have been drawn out on, and lost so that kind of thinking actually decreases the chance to win. Better to take the $5 and move on.
To keep things simple, I submit the following:
The guy who won the $5 pot... Did he win?? Did all other players lose??
I'm confused if you agree that you are 50/50 to either win or lose... What numbers don't make sense??
It's like you are saying the thing you use to enter a building typically starts with a 'd' and ryhmes with more, and then arguing when someone says "you use a door"..
You can't have it both ways sunshine..
Sure you can have it both ways. Basically, the win or lose is the same as 2+2=4. The problem with his math is the way he's find each 2, it just doesn't work.
Sure you can have it both ways. Basically, the win or lose is the same as 2+2=4. The problem with his math is the way he's find each 2, it just doesn't work.
You just cannot be 100% sure with online poker. Even you assume that the RNG is running 100% accurate, still there could be poker bots or cheating.
Bottom line, you just do not want that extra element being added to the game. That's why I quit online poker for good. I only play live game at my local casino. Sure, it's one hour drive one way and I have to wait 20-30 min before I can play, but I can be sure that no funny stuff going behind the scene.
I'm way ahead of you newbs, I graduated this class long ago. This is what gives me my edge over the other players at the table, it's because I'm so good at folding Aces pf.
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dave, that video was fantastic.
moose, you must be playing with one of those rare cursed decks where it automatically deals both of the other aces to someone when you get aa.
Honestly, as hilarious and classic as this thread has been, especially looking at where we got to from where we started, I have to think that wetts is simply smarter than the rest of us. See, here's the deal: there's no way he actually believes what he is saying, but in posting these random thoughts that make no sense whatsoever, he's keeping all of us from playing, thus getting all of the fish to himself on *s.
Bravo wetts, bravo.
My work here is complete.
Dear lord, it's like this guy is from CNN or FoxNews. "Let's just clip one tiny piece of a quote and make it look like we know what we're talking about while completely discrediting this person."
I stand by my first statement: wow.
I guess the point is, if you dont win, you lose.
I had such high hopes for the class of 09.
I hate having no one around me who would be able to understand why this is so amazing.
I see whats going on now and now I feel retarded.
Everyone is right, and everyone is retarded.
Congrats DasCoupe.
Head asplode.
This thread will never get old to me.
I'm confused if you agree that you are 50/50 to either win or lose... What numbers don't make sense??
It's like you are saying the thing you use to enter a building typically starts with a 'd' and ryhmes with more, and then arguing when someone says "you use a door"..
You can't have it both ways sunshine..
Is there a chance that we can copywrite this thread and publish. It makes more sense than Phil Gordon's book.
Actually, many situations exist where one loses but one does not really lose, and in fact that is where a lot of one's overall winnings come from.
In most sessions I see players who play a hand that wins them a really small pot, either via fancy play syndrome, or just being too passive. Whenever they win a $5 pot instead of a $100 pot, that is a ton of lost value for them and effectively a huge net gain for their opponent who should have lost more.
These type of situations will arise for all players, and those that capitalize on them will win a ton more (which is obvious winning) and lose a lot less vs these bad players, and the net effect adds up over time.
Kind of a strange way to look at it, but sometimes losing is effectively winning.
In tournaments I have loss count of the number of times I should have been eliminated but was not via strange fancy opponent play and then came back to cash. Same general concept.
Sorry to add a semi serious twist to this thread :P
Are you questioning the credibility of this thread and my maths?
Ban please.
Something about the last horse and a finish line.
Best thread I've ever read on the forum. Graham, please put in HoF.
Stop trying to confuse things, you are taking a really simple basic concept and screwing up the new players. How do you know he would have won $100, are you Sylvia Brown? More likely he would have been drawn out on, and lost so that kind of thinking actually decreases the chance to win. Better to take the $5 and move on.
To keep things simple, I submit the following:
The guy who won the $5 pot... Did he win?? Did all other players lose??
Of course... So 50/50..
Case = rested.
Sure you can have it both ways. Basically, the win or lose is the same as 2+2=4. The problem with his math is the way he's find each 2, it just doesn't work.
LEVEL 5 stuff here people!!!
This just in, logic: You are doing it wrong.
Actually, 2+2 = 5. That is, if Wetts says it does . . .
Logic:
Nothing is better than God.
Kristy bra shot is better than nothing.
Therefore ...
/thread
Bottom line, you just do not want that extra element being added to the game. That's why I quit online poker for good. I only play live game at my local casino. Sure, it's one hour drive one way and I have to wait 20-30 min before I can play, but I can be sure that no funny stuff going behind the scene.
:9c:10c
DIAGF
EDIT:
Fuck it. Nevermind.
I'm way ahead of you newbs, I graduated this class long ago. This is what gives me my edge over the other players at the table, it's because I'm so good at folding Aces pf.