I'm very new at this forum and fairly new to playing poker, so I hope I can get some help with my game.
I'm not a serious player and only have an online poker account because of a bit of money I picked up playing a some freerolls a few weeks a go. I amassed the amazing sum of $1.86 by cashing in freeroll Hold 'em NL tourneys at Pokerstars. I then took that to the micro (1cent/2cent) ring tables and built it to about $5 by the end of my first session. Now after plugging away mostly with SNG's I have a mini-bankroll of $64.50, so I guess I'm doing OK for someone who is learning the game. I think it should actually be higher due to several bad beats (hence my user name) on or approaching final tables. I really do have some sort of jinx in these positions. I've finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th and lower at final tables a few times and usually go out due to a crappy bad (river) beat. But I won't go into any details because I'm sure all you experienced players have heard and been through enough of them that you won't hear anything new from me.
Anyway, I'm not looking to build a big BR quickly, but rather hope to increase bit by bit over the year while I learn to play properly. So, if anyone cares to offer advice about BR building, please do so.
I'm Looking forward to talking with many of you and sharing poker tales (as I eventually play enough to get some).
BTW, my game preference is Hold em NL.
- BB King
BBK this is your first post. Clearly you are a low limit noob. Grow some onions or quit poker.
I'm sick of this BBK guy whining everytime something goes wrong in his poker life. What does trust have to do with playing online poker? Who the hell are you looking to trust? Stick to your $1 SNGs please.
Funny thing when I first started playing online poker a few years ago I had no idea what I was doing, I'd get my aces cracked by that donk calling me with 35s and hitting his flush on river, could not figure out what I was doing wrong. Deceided if I was going to play I might as well learn more about the game, so I bought some books, joined a forum and guess what, I suffer bad beats but it does not bother me (still curse under my breath) . Now I go back and look at the hand and see what I could have done better, look through my stats to see my mistakes and fix them. i know I'm getting better, when I stopped playing I to learn more about the game , I had 18 cents left in my pokerstars account, it is now over $325, I stay within my bankroll, play the donk levels and hope my roll builds so I can play higher stakes and win more money, will it happen, don't know, but I love playing poker, so i suffer a few beats I 'll just keep plugging along.
Take a break from poker and the bad beats. I used to only play for money live instead of online, but I finally got rid of the "tin foil hat" and realized that online has more advantages than drawbacks. As a poker dealer who has personally dealt many bad beats just like PokerStars, I can testify that live poker is just as "rigged" as online.
I disagree, I think LIVE is more RIGGED. I've seen it way to many times.
I see most of you disagree with bb, and to a certain point u are right. U are better off staying away from the all ins (especially on pokerstars).But u have to go allin sometimes, u have no choice. How many times do u raise 6 times the BB and get 6 callers at the low levels or freerolls. U have to reduce the amount of players in a hand! U might even have gus hansen call u, cause he is a major DONK! He didn't win a tourny for 2.5 years before he won the aussie open in 2007. I saw the final on TV the other day and guess what! He got all the cards! And he still got lucky in the end! Poker is 95% luck, therefore 5% skill won't really get u very far will it! Nevertheless, the problem with pokerstars is U don't nearly win enough of the allins, actually u lose 75% of them no matter what your hand. Go play a $1 tourney and u will see what I am talking about.
By the way, AA against any hand in an allin isn't a coin flip people, its a dominant hand unless there are more than one caller of course. I've won 100 tourneys online and the allin is definitely rigged at stars, UB, full tilt etc. Do u know anyone who has lost 16 times in a row with AA on final tables in allins. Yes (ME) Do you think I have won with AA 16 times in a row - NOT IN ANY LIFETIME! Thats the proof in the puddin right there. These places are no different than online casinos, they are crooks! Ill give u another scenario, when u lose a bad beat and write in the chat something derogetory about the site, see what happens in the next 20 minutes, lol.Its only proof they have control, bottom line!
Do we have a forum speak n spell we can lend out? All this shortened word crap annoys the piss outta me!
Instead typing U R Hot...give it some thought...try something like.."Not only are you beautiful and intelligent, but in all my travels throughout the world I have never come across anyone as amazing as you are. Come! Fly with me!"
Go play a $1 tourney and u will see what I am talking about.
Umm...no thanks...I think moose said it...Picking pennies from the street is more profitable?
I see most of you disagree with bb, and to a certain point u are right. U are better off staying away from the all ins (especially on pokerstars).But u have to go allin sometimes, u have no choice. How many times do u raise 6 times the BB and get 6 callers at the low levels or freerolls. U have to reduce the amount of players in a hand! U might even have gus hansen call u, cause he is a major DONK! He didn't win a tourny for 2.5 years before he won the aussie open in 2007. I saw the final on TV the other day and guess what! He got all the cards! And he still got lucky in the end! Poker is 95% luck, therefore 5% skill won't really get u very far will it! Nevertheless, the problem with pokerstars is U don't nearly win enough of the allins, actually u lose 75% of them no matter what your hand. Go play a $1 tourney and u will see what I am talking about.
Full Tilt Poker Game #11330946555: $50 + $5 Sit & Go (85147205), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:06:47 ET - 2009/03/25
Seat 1: rpine5 (1,195)
Seat 2: Big Kicker (3,235)
Seat 3: domenico1317 (2,805)
Seat 7: Bcboy72 (1,980)
Seat 8: Sippthehipp (4,285)
domenico1317 posts the small blind of 40
Bcboy72 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bcboy72 [Ad Kd]
Sippthehipp folds
rpine5 folds
Big Kicker raises to 240
domenico1317 folds
Bcboy72 calls 160
*** FLOP *** [As Kh 5s]
Bcboy72 checks
Big Kicker bets 160
Bcboy72 has 15 seconds left to act
Bcboy72 raises to 560
Big Kicker raises to 2,160
Bcboy72 calls 1,180, and is all in
Big Kicker shows [7h Ah]
Bcboy72 shows [Ad Kd]
Uncalled bet of 420 returned to Big Kicker
*** TURN *** [As Kh 5s] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [As Kh 5s 4h] [Jh]
Big Kicker shows a flush, Ace high
Bcboy72 shows two pair, Aces and Kings
Big Kicker wins the pot (4,000) with a flush, Ace high
Bcboy72 stands up
By the way, AA against any hand in an allin isn't a coin flip people, its a dominant hand unless there are more than one caller of course. I've won 100 tourneys online and the allin is definitely rigged at stars, UB, full tilt etc.
Jesus. 100 wins and still dont know the math.
AA vs. KQ (you have 2 outs, he has 6, so you're a 3/1 dog)
AA vs. 76s (Again, 2 outs vs. 6, plus the flush/straight draws)
AA vs. 66 (coinflip, he either flops a set or he doesnt)
AA vs. KQ (you have 2 outs, he has 6, so you're a 3/1 dog)
AA vs. 76s (Again, 2 outs vs. 6, plus the flush/straight draws)
AA vs. 66 (coinflip, he either flops a set or he doesnt)
Retards.
Uhm...
There is a lot LESS chance of him flopping a set.
That is NOT a coinflip.
And don't call people retards with a post like yours... Bad math man!!
Uhm...
There is a lot LESS chance of him flopping a set.
That is NOT a coinflip.
And don't call people retards with a post like yours... Bad math man!!
Wrong.
I graduated from the same school as local celebrities Watts and Timex. With a math degree. So I am clearly a LEVEL above you.
I shall perform my work, To prove the above.
1) AA vs. KQ: there are only 2 cards that improve your hand.
there are 6 that improve his.
6 > 2. It does not take a math genious to figure this out.
2) AA vs 76: see above + add 11 outs to the flush (OK 10 if you have the
As. Thats 17 to 2 (8.5 to 1!!!). Keep putting your money in with those odds and see how far you get.
3) AA vs. 66: How is that not a coin flip? Lets assign values.
If he hits a set you lose. If he doesnt, you win.
So you either win, or you lose - this is the definition of
50/50.
3) AA vs. 66: How is that not a coin flip? Lets assign values.
If he hits a set you lose. If he doesnt, you win.
So you either win, or you lose - this is the definition of
50/50.
I stick to my original statement. Retards.
52 Cards in the Deck
Out of those 52 cards, there are 2 other sixes.
That leaves 2 possibilities of hitting a set.
Now, 66 hits a straight, that leaves 46 other cards in the deck that DOESN'T help him.
Glad i'm not the only one who thinks AA isn't the "Oh thank the pokergods i have just been dealt the best hand in the world!!!" kind of hand. Sure its a good hand, and if poker was played with just the 2 hole cards ya were dealt..then it would be the best. But, when it comes to percentages and outs...well...AA is just not all that shit hot of hand...sure its good if ya shove all in and no one calls...but...when ya do get called...my guess is...the higher percentage of wins over all...go to the "other hand".
Hmmmm...which is the better % hand to have....i'll take 66 thanks
Like i said...AA just isn't that shit hot of a hand when it all comes down to it...and if we throw it against suited connectors...well..AA just starts falling by the way side in the % department.
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tb; mc
BBK this is your first post. Clearly you are a low limit noob. Grow some onions or quit poker.
bye!
I disagree, I think LIVE is more RIGGED. I've seen it way to many times.
Instead typing U R Hot...give it some thought...try something like.."Not only are you beautiful and intelligent, but in all my travels throughout the world I have never come across anyone as amazing as you are. Come! Fly with me!"
Umm...no thanks...I think moose said it...Picking pennies from the street is more profitable?
Seat 1: rpine5 (1,195)
Seat 2: Big Kicker (3,235)
Seat 3: domenico1317 (2,805)
Seat 7: Bcboy72 (1,980)
Seat 8: Sippthehipp (4,285)
domenico1317 posts the small blind of 40
Bcboy72 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bcboy72 [Ad Kd]
Sippthehipp folds
rpine5 folds
Big Kicker raises to 240
domenico1317 folds
Bcboy72 calls 160
*** FLOP *** [As Kh 5s]
Bcboy72 checks
Big Kicker bets 160
Bcboy72 has 15 seconds left to act
Bcboy72 raises to 560
Big Kicker raises to 2,160
Bcboy72 calls 1,180, and is all in
Big Kicker shows [7h Ah]
Bcboy72 shows [Ad Kd]
Uncalled bet of 420 returned to Big Kicker
*** TURN *** [As Kh 5s] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [As Kh 5s 4h] [Jh]
Big Kicker shows a flush, Ace high
Bcboy72 shows two pair, Aces and Kings
Big Kicker wins the pot (4,000) with a flush, Ace high
Bcboy72 stands up
Jesus. 100 wins and still dont know the math.
AA vs. KQ (you have 2 outs, he has 6, so you're a 3/1 dog)
AA vs. 76s (Again, 2 outs vs. 6, plus the flush/straight draws)
AA vs. 66 (coinflip, he either flops a set or he doesnt)
Retards.
Uhm...
There is a lot LESS chance of him flopping a set.
That is NOT a coinflip.
And don't call people retards with a post like yours... Bad math man!!
Just gonna sit back and watch...
Excellent analysis Wetts...! Couldn't agree more..
Wrong.
I graduated from the same school as local celebrities Watts and Timex. With a math degree. So I am clearly a LEVEL above you.
I shall perform my work, To prove the above.
1) AA vs. KQ: there are only 2 cards that improve your hand.
there are 6 that improve his.
6 > 2. It does not take a math genious to figure this out.
2) AA vs 76: see above + add 11 outs to the flush (OK 10 if you have the
As. Thats 17 to 2 (8.5 to 1!!!). Keep putting your money in with those odds and see how far you get.
3) AA vs. 66: How is that not a coin flip? Lets assign values.
If he hits a set you lose. If he doesnt, you win.
So you either win, or you lose - this is the definition of
50/50.
I stick to my original statement. Retards.
52 Cards in the Deck
Out of those 52 cards, there are 2 other sixes.
That leaves 2 possibilities of hitting a set.
Now, 66 hits a straight, that leaves 46 other cards in the deck that DOESN'T help him.
80% for AA, 20% for 66.
That is NOT a coinflip
There are 52 cards, of which 2 are Aces, and 2 are Sixes. So it's still 50/50. Goddamn. What is so difficult to understand. I feel like Kristy.
But you're right. I did not take straights into consideration.
23456 > A2345 so the AA may actually be behind when you factor this in. I'll have to work on this and get back to everyone.
+1, at least we have 1 non retard here.
Were we in the same graduating class?
Go Dog Go!!!
I'm sorry if I sound retarded but still, I just don't get it!!!!! Seriously, you speak as if AA doesn't beat 66 if nobody hits anything.
How can it be a COINFLIP (which is a 50% chance either will win)
When the 66 is RELYING on hitting a set (2 cards of 48. )
Where was AA isn't relying on anything EXCEPT the 66 hitting a set (46 of 48. )
I think I need some better explanations...
The odds of 66 hitting a set is what?
The odds of 66 NOT hitting a set is what? (I predict a lot higher)
See my point?
I haven't been around long enough to know anyone yet!
Also, I will and do question anything I do not understand, thats how I learn!
Not sure how to do the quote thing, but that is what DasCoupe posted
Now i was gonna leave it alone, but, it was driving me crazy....so i had to do this.......
AA
Outs:
2 - aces
straights ( ONLY 2 possibilities...10,J,Q,K or 2,3,4,5) Thats it..thats all
Total outs - 4
66
Outs:
2 - 6's
straights - 2,3,4,5 ... 3,4,5,7 .... 4,5,7,8 ... 5,7,8,9 ... 7,8,9,10
Total outs - 7
Hmmmm...which is the better % hand to have....i'll take 66 thanks
Like i said...AA just isn't that shit hot of a hand when it all comes down to it...and if we throw it against suited connectors...well..AA just starts falling by the way side in the % department.
I said this already.
50/50 (coinflip).
Either you hit a set, or you dont.
This is far too frustrating.
I am moving on.
GL on tha tables.