A pro is also someone who declares their income and pays taxes on it as such.
that wouldn't leave many players
Too many players consider themselves to be 'pros' when they don't have a choice to do anything else for a living. I would think a pro needs to be able to earn a better living playing poker than there regular day job, assuming they already have one.
I read somewhere that a good 5/5 player is lucky to earn $20 an hour (about 4BB/HR) which is about $40k a year. So they were saying, you really need to be playing at the level of $5/$10 or better to be making a decent living at poker.
Proof? And over how many 100,000's of hands? Or are you playing like 100 tables at a time?
Look me up on ptr and multiply my bb by 1500 hands an hour. I wasn't including rakeback which is like 38% as a supernova and also not including the boost i get after converting my euros to $ which is about 33%. It varies a lot depending on how many euro tables are running, time of day etc but I think I usually have 20-30% of my hands put in on euro tables.
Sorry but I'm not doing the work for you, nuff to do around here without that..
Wow, didn't realize that was work! Do you never surf the net? Is that work? You have time to reply in this thread but not to surf over to a website and punch in a screen name? You asked me for proof and I pointed you to it and you tell me that you won't do the work for me? How is it for me? Is it my job to prove to you that I'm not a liar? Is it me, or does it seem like you're coming across in a hostile way towards me for no reason?
Why bother asking for proof if you have no time for it?
I really dont think Fed would have the time to put in this many hands.... esp at this low of a limit. Too busy crushing the highstakes games...
BB, hes just an old troll that keeps coming back... So anytime anyone comes here and claims they are a decent player, everyone assumes its Fed. I think ur stats prove otherwise...
Look me up on ptr and multiply my bb by 1500 hands an hour. I wasn't including rakeback which is like 38% as a supernova and also not including the boost i get after converting my euros to $ which is about 33%.
Congrats, I didn't know there were any winning Supernovas posting in this forum. Did you get to 200K VPPs to get 38% rakeback? I think my rakeback last year was around 40% as a Palladium member.
He's running at 3bb/100 over 650k hands...so 1500 hands/h would = .75 * 15 = $11/h. Not exactly a great wage, but when you factor in everything else it may come to $25/h.
He hasn't played since March 17th, so I assume he has a job:)
Congrats, I didn't know there were any winning Supernovas posting in this forum. Did you get to 200K VPPs to get 38% rakeback? I think my rakeback last year was around 40% as a Palladium member.
He's running at 3bb/100 over 650k hands...so 1500 hands/h would = .75 * 15 = $11/h. Not exactly a great wage, but when you factor in everything else it may come to $25/h.
He hasn't played since March 17th, so I assume he has a job:)
3BB not 3bb on PTR means 3PTBB/100 which I guess you are not familiar with but is double the big blind so that would make your math off by a lot bit. Factor in the fact that my profits from euros add on a fair bit to my hourly once they are converted to USD because a euro is usually worth around $1.30 USD, maybe more lately since the looney is now killing the the buck.
I do have a business that I am working on and have been very busy with this month which explains why I haven't been putting in much volume lately, but I'll be grinding like a fiend this week and putting in around 50k hands.
3BB not 3bb on PTR means 3PTBB/100 which I guess you are not familiar with but is double the big blind so that would make your math off by a lot bit. Factor in the fact that my profits from euros add on a fair bit to my hourly once they are converted to USD because a euro is usually worth around $1.30 USD, maybe more lately since the looney is now killing the the buck.
I do have a business that I am working on and have been very busy with this month which explains why I haven't been putting in much volume lately, but I'll be grinding like a fiend this week and putting in around 50k hands.
i hit the 6max 25 nl tables up here and there. ill maybe post some hand soon....
3BB not 3bb on PTR means 3PTBB/100 which I guess you are not familiar with but is double the big blind so that would make your math off by a lot bit. Factor in the fact that my profits from euros add on a fair bit to my hourly once they are converted to USD because a euro is usually worth around $1.30 USD, maybe more lately since the looney is now killing the the buck.
I do have a business that I am working on and have been very busy with this month which explains why I haven't been putting in much volume lately, but I'll be grinding like a fiend this week and putting in around 50k hands.
3BB not 3bb on PTR means 3PTBB/100 which I guess you are not familiar with but is double the big blind so that would make your math off by a lot bit. Factor in the fact that my profits from euros add on a fair bit to my hourly once they are converted to USD because a euro is usually worth around $1.30 USD, maybe more lately since the looney is now killing the the buck.
I do have a business that I am working on and have been very busy with this month which explains why I haven't been putting in much volume lately, but I'll be grinding like a fiend this week and putting in around 50k hands.
So PTR does not report actual bb per hour but twice that as in the old pokertracker bb per hour?
And it lists the euro tables seperately doesn't it?
Edit -- just checked and it is PTBB/h (my bad) -- I find it strange that they use such an antiquated number
So PTR does not report actual bb per hour but twice that as in the old pokertracker bb per hour?
And it lists the euro tables seperately doesn't it?
Edit -- just checked and it is PTBB/h (my bad) -- I find it strange that they use such an antiquated number
Its actually PTBB/100hands just to be clear and not per hour. They do track euros separately by treating it as a separate game if you will, but they do not convert them to their value in USD as far as I know. So if you win 1000 euros ptr will show you as being up $1000 instead of like $1300 or w/e it would be. Also, too my knowledge they only recently started tracking euros separately and were basically just treating it as a $ for the first while that stars has been spreading euro currency tables. So that being said, a lot of my bottom line on PTR would be inflated by a non insignificant amount.
I have a lot of grinding to do this week, but I think near the start of April I will make a video of one of my sessions and post it up.
Its actually PTBB/100hands just to be clear and not per hour. They do track euros separately by treating it as a separate game if you will, but they do not convert them to their value in USD as far as I know. So if you win 1000 euros ptr will show you as being up $1000 instead of like $1300 or w/e it would be. Also, too my knowledge they only recently started tracking euros separately and were basically just treating it as a $ for the first while that stars has been spreading euro currency tables. So that being said, a lot of my bottom line on PTR would be inflated by a non insignificant amount.
I have a lot of grinding to do this week, but I think near the start of April I will make a video of one of my sessions and post it up.
That's what I meant. Its just strange that they use BB these days when that essentially came from the daysv when everyone played lhe
how many tables you running to get 1,500 hands an hour? why do you stick to these limits?
Nice to see we are attracting some more winning players to our little forum. Can't wait to see the video. I would think that if he is happy with his win rate at $25NL, why move up and risk more ?
I am in the process of adding more tables at my level as well, instead of moving up in stakes. Less to lose, but winrate increasing due to added tables.
how many tables you running to get 1,500 hands an hour? why do you stick to these limits?
I 24 table and seat select/bum hunt like a fiend throughout my sessions.
I'm stuck at 25nl for bankroll reasons mostly. I find it difficult to handle swings greater than $200 on a regular basis but I feel that would be a non issue if I had more money in the bank and like 100 buyins for the limit that I'm playing.
Trying to get a lot of grinding in between now and the summer so hopefully if things go well I will take a shot at 50nl.
i would like you to show me how to do this please....
The color coding notes feature in stars is really helpful, especially when used with notecaddy. I have like every player in my db i've ever played with classified as 1 of 6 different colors. Green are fish, purple are whales good regs are red etc. Helps me to avoid tables with lots of nits/regs on them and find more tables with fish/whales/unknowns(guys who aren't coded yet are usually potential fish since i haven't played with them yet).
I also have my HUD displaying the average vpip for the table if I see a table where that number is quite low ill usually sit out next bb and find a better one. I'm constantly sitting out on bad tables so that i can get on the good ones.
I laugh at the nits playing 24 tables that stay on the same table infested with regs for hours on end.
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that wouldn't leave many players
Too many players consider themselves to be 'pros' when they don't have a choice to do anything else for a living. I would think a pro needs to be able to earn a better living playing poker than there regular day job, assuming they already have one.
I read somewhere that a good 5/5 player is lucky to earn $20 an hour (about 4BB/HR) which is about $40k a year. So they were saying, you really need to be playing at the level of $5/$10 or better to be making a decent living at poker.
Proof? And over how many 100,000's of hands? Or are you playing like 100 tables at a time?
Look me up on ptr and multiply my bb by 1500 hands an hour. I wasn't including rakeback which is like 38% as a supernova and also not including the boost i get after converting my euros to $ which is about 33%. It varies a lot depending on how many euro tables are running, time of day etc but I think I usually have 20-30% of my hands put in on euro tables.
Sorry but I'm not doing the work for you, nuff to do around here without that..
Wow, didn't realize that was work! Do you never surf the net? Is that work? You have time to reply in this thread but not to surf over to a website and punch in a screen name? You asked me for proof and I pointed you to it and you tell me that you won't do the work for me? How is it for me? Is it my job to prove to you that I'm not a liar? Is it me, or does it seem like you're coming across in a hostile way towards me for no reason?
Why bother asking for proof if you have no time for it?
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lolzzz.......hi Fed
Who is this fed guy
BB, hes just an old troll that keeps coming back... So anytime anyone comes here and claims they are a decent player, everyone assumes its Fed. I think ur stats prove otherwise...
He hasn't played since March 17th, so I assume he has a job:)
Are you grinding online for a living???
You can be supernova AND have a job? Figured the time requirements for that would be way too much...
3BB not 3bb on PTR means 3PTBB/100 which I guess you are not familiar with but is double the big blind so that would make your math off by a lot bit. Factor in the fact that my profits from euros add on a fair bit to my hourly once they are converted to USD because a euro is usually worth around $1.30 USD, maybe more lately since the looney is now killing the the buck.
I do have a business that I am working on and have been very busy with this month which explains why I haven't been putting in much volume lately, but I'll be grinding like a fiend this week and putting in around 50k hands.
So PTR does not report actual bb per hour but twice that as in the old pokertracker bb per hour?
And it lists the euro tables seperately doesn't it?
Edit -- just checked and it is PTBB/h (my bad) -- I find it strange that they use such an antiquated number
I can tell you that the Bowl Boy does not equal fed.
Maybe you are????
you can rate my hands..pokerjah56, ipoker network. Cool site.
Its actually PTBB/100hands just to be clear and not per hour. They do track euros separately by treating it as a separate game if you will, but they do not convert them to their value in USD as far as I know. So if you win 1000 euros ptr will show you as being up $1000 instead of like $1300 or w/e it would be. Also, too my knowledge they only recently started tracking euros separately and were basically just treating it as a $ for the first while that stars has been spreading euro currency tables. So that being said, a lot of my bottom line on PTR would be inflated by a non insignificant amount.
I have a lot of grinding to do this week, but I think near the start of April I will make a video of one of my sessions and post it up.
dope!
That's what I meant. Its just strange that they use BB these days when that essentially came from the daysv when everyone played lhe
how many tables you running to get 1,500 hands an hour? why do you stick to these limits?
Nice to see we are attracting some more winning players to our little forum. Can't wait to see the video. I would think that if he is happy with his win rate at $25NL, why move up and risk more ?
I am in the process of adding more tables at my level as well, instead of moving up in stakes. Less to lose, but winrate increasing due to added tables.
I 24 table and seat select/bum hunt like a fiend throughout my sessions.
I'm stuck at 25nl for bankroll reasons mostly. I find it difficult to handle swings greater than $200 on a regular basis but I feel that would be a non issue if I had more money in the bank and like 100 buyins for the limit that I'm playing.
Trying to get a lot of grinding in between now and the summer so hopefully if things go well I will take a shot at 50nl.
The color coding notes feature in stars is really helpful, especially when used with notecaddy. I have like every player in my db i've ever played with classified as 1 of 6 different colors. Green are fish, purple are whales good regs are red etc. Helps me to avoid tables with lots of nits/regs on them and find more tables with fish/whales/unknowns(guys who aren't coded yet are usually potential fish since i haven't played with them yet).
I also have my HUD displaying the average vpip for the table if I see a table where that number is quite low ill usually sit out next bb and find a better one. I'm constantly sitting out on bad tables so that i can get on the good ones.
I laugh at the nits playing 24 tables that stay on the same table infested with regs for hours on end.