But yeah I think with most people I'd much prefer right now just to play in tourneys then cash games anyway.. and if I was going to do cash games it would most for sure be limit... again to any regular casino goers in B.C any more info or tips?
Though I think i am still just going to play online and in pubs for free for a little bit before I'd head out to the casino... I still make too many mistakes right now that really piss me off at home need to work on it.
Emotional control, money management, game selection. These are even more important than the strategy of the game. Treat poker like golf: practice, practice, practice, see how good you can get, but remember that you can never master the game and you should never stop learning.
Cash games online are not a good idea imo. Full of sharks. I think sngs is the best course to take if you ever want to be pro. Less swings as cash games and tournaments. There are tonnes of resources out there to help improve your poker game and I suggest you use them before putting your br on the line. Join a poker training site and watch some of the videos, you will learn a lot and it will improve your game even more.
A lot of up and downs when playing poker professionally and you need to have a good br, so when things arent going well you have something to fall back on.
Basically here is the coles notes of going pro:
1. Be young, single, and reckless for the most part with money.
2. Study the game and start working with a group similar to your lifestyle.
3. Grind and grind
4. Bink a tourney and start swapping with other players.
5. Sell your action and start make up...
6. Continue to grind and hopefully clear your make up...
7. Repeat steps 2 to 6 till you either make the top 5 to 10 percent or you go broke.
DOnt play live limit. IF you do, pick up "Smalls takes limit holdem" book. Everyone wants to see a flop and your raise means nothing
Dont play Online limit. Full of sharks, they know exactly when to raise/fold and well rock you so hard.
Best bet imo, once you learn the game, throw some cash online, like $300 and play some .05/.1 to start your game going. GL it'll be a fucking grind fest and hopefully you'll beat the rake.
I also like to play a tourny here and there for about 10% of my BR (small tournies, 90 max kinda thing). But i do this like once every 100 tournies I play. GL man.
Going pro and taking whatever little money one has, to go and play limit hold 'em is one of the stupidest things ive ever heard.
Take your money, invest on poker stars, win a couple sng's to build a roll, enter a bigger MTT with your winnings, hopefully cash well, then start running with that.
The above is what would happen in an ideal world^^^
If you ask me, going pro would involve a bank roll of over 10K, with extremly good bank roll management... probably wouldnt score big for the first while, but maybe hopefully over time, you could grind it out enough to support yourself.
to answer the bc casino question, i play quite often at cascades mainly 2/5, i would not suggest playing in the 2/5 unless you have an extra buy in or two as this game which has a ton of action also has a ton of guys that make their money the not so legal way, liek one of the posts said earlier you raise AK only to have someone call you with 25 suited, as for the limit don't do it why play bingo you have a better chance at winning the lottery
I know quite a bit about the local casinos, well mainly edgewater and river rock.
Both are juicy, both attract good players.
Play limit if you like to play with older women and seniors. Although juicy, it is a bingo game and everyone speaks in mandarin so its really not htat fun.
All the tournies are freaking crap shoots. The only one that's HALF decent is the $110 at edgwater on saturdays at 12pm. 4000 starting stack, blinds go up every 20 mins, yet the tourny is very top heavy. I got 6th in one of these for 550 where as first was like 3K.
I wouldn't mind putting some money into pokerstars.. I do have some money in some other sites though but I don't really like their poker plus they are very annoying cashing out.
Here are a couple of other paths to building a serious poker bankroll.
1. Study the game obsessively.
2. Be realistic if you are among the top 5% - 20% when it comes to overall poker skills, including the following: math, game theory, discipline, tilt control, game selection, and bankroll management. If not, just enjoy poker recreationally.
2. Win satellites to big tournaments.
3. Cash in some of the tournaments that you won a free entry to.
4. Be able to win at cash games while waiting for the next satellite or tournament.
ONLINE
1. Maximize the bonus or rakeback, e.g., join a site through a friend who is an affiliate and would be willing to give you extra benefits.
2. Find the specific game where you have the biggest edge or hourly rate, e.g., NL cash games for most winning grinders. In my case, it was satellites and other tournaments.
3. Grind to a VIP level, e.g., Palladium, Supernova or Black Card. Making money at online poker is a volume business.
4. Keep studying and improving yourself as the games keep getting tougher.
5. Keep grinding until the inevitable time comes when you either can no longer make enough money or lose your desire to keep playing.
6. RETIRE. "cheers:
Basically here is the coles notes of going pro:
1. Be young, single, and reckless for the most part with money.
2. Study the game and start working with a group similar to your lifestyle.
3. Grind and grind
4. Bink a tourney and start swapping with other players.
5. Sell your action and start make up...
6. Continue to grind and hopefully clear your make up...
7. Repeat steps 2 to 6 till you either make the top 5 to 10 percent or you go broke.
Ok, thinking about it again no it won't be all my money.. maybe just a sit n go.
and just for the record Edgewater would be the place to go.. certainly in a much better area than Starlight =P
Looking forward to big slick night tomorrow.. need to improve there.
Look first thing first you need to realise is if your any good. Play 20k hands of 20nl online if you beat it there is a good chance you can beat live cash for a living. There will be loads of adjustments you will need to make for live games tho but im happy if you beat that you beat live poker.
Secondly you will tire of going to a casino everyday but maybe your in that small % that wont.
Bankroll & tilt are as equally as important as skill. You will need $10k to play 1-2 for a living. To play $1-2 online for a living i suggest $30k.
There is more profit to be made playing 50nl online than $1-2 live that is a fact but it takes a better more commited player to do this.
Look ask me any questions and il try answer them in the best way i can.
Play 20k hands of 20nl online if you beat it there is a good chance you can beat live cash for a living.
I don't think online and live are the same animal. Intuition plays a much bigger role in live poker. Don't think you need to spend all that time playing online before you give live a try.
I don't think online and live are the same animal. Intuition plays a much bigger role in live poker. Don't think you need to spend all that time playing online before you give live a try.
Ya but to be fair if you can beat 20nl online its a fair comment that you can beat 1-2 live.
Im sure theres guys who cant beat 20nl online that can beat 1-2 live due to lots of reasons but all im saying its easier to go home deposit $400 play 20nl and see how you get on. If you lose the $400 there is a good chance that you may not be good enough to beat a live game.
Anyway if you have $10k lying at home its a bad idea to use this as a roll. Id strongly disagree with anyone jumping in head first to be a pro. Anyone that posts a thread like this guy did most likely is not ready to be a full time pro. Im not saying he was wrong to post it but its naive thinking.
Does he realise its possible he could be a losing player for 100k hands if luck decides to be a bitch to him? Nothing at all to do with skill level. Thats over 2 years playing 40 hours at a casino a week. The abiliity to become a live pro weighs heavily on a lot of run good at the start.
Got back from big slick tonight did better then last week 7th instead of 8th.
Got bluffed big time two times in a row.. by a 3-2.. couldn't recover my losing hand was Ace-Jack.
Anyways back to this well.. I put the 80 bucks I had from my sportsinteraction account into the Poker.. just won my first heads up 5 dollar double up thing.. now at a cool 84.60 <_>
That's not too bad. How many players were there? I started playing poker at these free bar tournaments. The bug kicks in pretty soon after that.
Not many I think there were only 12 I beleve this week.. the coordinator of the event did say a few regulars couldn't make it due to a family emergency.
I can't believe this thread has so many serious responses...you are new to poker and likely aren't even a winning player yet, why would you be thinking about going pro?
I can't believe this thread has so many serious responses...you are new to poker and likely aren't even a winning player yet, why would you be thinking about going pro?
I can't believe this thread has so many serious responses...you are new to poker and likely aren't even a winning player yet, why would you be thinking about going pro?
Well to be fair I did say it was pie in the sky don't have any expectations on it working out.. was more wondering if there were any pro players here... I guess I really wasn't clear.
As for online I believe I've learned I should stick to just heads up I believe i'm something like 6-1... around there.. it's when i go to the bigger games where it goes so hectic with the blinds and tightness that I have trouble.
This place doesn't have much options I don' tknow if anyone here has used Sportsinteraction.
I can't believe this thread has so many serious responses...you are new to poker and likely aren't even a winning player yet, why would you be thinking about going pro?
I think for every question like this, there are 10 people thinking it....
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But yeah I think with most people I'd much prefer right now just to play in tourneys then cash games anyway.. and if I was going to do cash games it would most for sure be limit... again to any regular casino goers in B.C any more info or tips?
Though I think i am still just going to play online and in pubs for free for a little bit before I'd head out to the casino... I still make too many mistakes right now that really piss me off at home need to work on it.
I think I just sounded like Yoda.
Sometime later this week I will take what little money I have left and play some limit hold em.
Whats it like at the limit tables from anyones experience (Player wise)
This may not end well. If that is truely your last money on earth, then it is NOT what you want to do.
School of hard knocks my friend. Sometimes you have to learn through experience.
A lot of up and downs when playing poker professionally and you need to have a good br, so when things arent going well you have something to fall back on.
1. Be young, single, and reckless for the most part with money.
2. Study the game and start working with a group similar to your lifestyle.
3. Grind and grind
4. Bink a tourney and start swapping with other players.
5. Sell your action and start make up...
6. Continue to grind and hopefully clear your make up...
7. Repeat steps 2 to 6 till you either make the top 5 to 10 percent or you go broke.
Dont play Online limit. Full of sharks, they know exactly when to raise/fold and well rock you so hard.
Best bet imo, once you learn the game, throw some cash online, like $300 and play some .05/.1 to start your game going. GL it'll be a fucking grind fest and hopefully you'll beat the rake.
I also like to play a tourny here and there for about 10% of my BR (small tournies, 90 max kinda thing). But i do this like once every 100 tournies I play. GL man.
Going pro and taking whatever little money one has, to go and play limit hold 'em is one of the stupidest things ive ever heard.
Take your money, invest on poker stars, win a couple sng's to build a roll, enter a bigger MTT with your winnings, hopefully cash well, then start running with that.
The above is what would happen in an ideal world^^^
If you ask me, going pro would involve a bank roll of over 10K, with extremly good bank roll management... probably wouldnt score big for the first while, but maybe hopefully over time, you could grind it out enough to support yourself.
Both are juicy, both attract good players.
Play limit if you like to play with older women and seniors. Although juicy, it is a bingo game and everyone speaks in mandarin so its really not htat fun.
All the tournies are freaking crap shoots. The only one that's HALF decent is the $110 at edgwater on saturdays at 12pm. 4000 starting stack, blinds go up every 20 mins, yet the tourny is very top heavy. I got 6th in one of these for 550 where as first was like 3K.
1. Study the game obsessively.
2. Be realistic if you are among the top 5% - 20% when it comes to overall poker skills, including the following: math, game theory, discipline, tilt control, game selection, and bankroll management. If not, just enjoy poker recreationally.
2. Win satellites to big tournaments.
3. Cash in some of the tournaments that you won a free entry to.
4. Be able to win at cash games while waiting for the next satellite or tournament.
ONLINE
1. Maximize the bonus or rakeback, e.g., join a site through a friend who is an affiliate and would be willing to give you extra benefits.
2. Find the specific game where you have the biggest edge or hourly rate, e.g., NL cash games for most winning grinders. In my case, it was satellites and other tournaments.
3. Grind to a VIP level, e.g., Palladium, Supernova or Black Card. Making money at online poker is a volume business.
4. Keep studying and improving yourself as the games keep getting tougher.
5. Keep grinding until the inevitable time comes when you either can no longer make enough money or lose your desire to keep playing.
6. RETIRE. "cheers:
have to
and just for the record Edgewater would be the place to go.. certainly in a much better area than Starlight =P
Looking forward to big slick night tomorrow.. need to improve there.
Look first thing first you need to realise is if your any good. Play 20k hands of 20nl online if you beat it there is a good chance you can beat live cash for a living. There will be loads of adjustments you will need to make for live games tho but im happy if you beat that you beat live poker.
Secondly you will tire of going to a casino everyday but maybe your in that small % that wont.
Bankroll & tilt are as equally as important as skill. You will need $10k to play 1-2 for a living. To play $1-2 online for a living i suggest $30k.
There is more profit to be made playing 50nl online than $1-2 live that is a fact but it takes a better more commited player to do this.
Look ask me any questions and il try answer them in the best way i can.
I don't think online and live are the same animal. Intuition plays a much bigger role in live poker. Don't think you need to spend all that time playing online before you give live a try.
Ya but to be fair if you can beat 20nl online its a fair comment that you can beat 1-2 live.
Im sure theres guys who cant beat 20nl online that can beat 1-2 live due to lots of reasons but all im saying its easier to go home deposit $400 play 20nl and see how you get on. If you lose the $400 there is a good chance that you may not be good enough to beat a live game.
Anyway if you have $10k lying at home its a bad idea to use this as a roll. Id strongly disagree with anyone jumping in head first to be a pro. Anyone that posts a thread like this guy did most likely is not ready to be a full time pro. Im not saying he was wrong to post it but its naive thinking.
Does he realise its possible he could be a losing player for 100k hands if luck decides to be a bitch to him? Nothing at all to do with skill level. Thats over 2 years playing 40 hours at a casino a week. The abiliity to become a live pro weighs heavily on a lot of run good at the start.
Got bluffed big time two times in a row.. by a 3-2.. couldn't recover my losing hand was Ace-Jack.
Anyways back to this well.. I put the 80 bucks I had from my sportsinteraction account into the Poker.. just won my first heads up 5 dollar double up thing.. now at a cool 84.60 <_>
forget winning, what did you learn (so i can use it)
That's not too bad. How many players were there? I started playing poker at these free bar tournaments. The bug kicks in pretty soon after that.
Not many I think there were only 12 I beleve this week.. the coordinator of the event did say a few regulars couldn't make it due to a family emergency.
Damn I gotta make top 5 next week at least.
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As for online I believe I've learned I should stick to just heads up I believe i'm something like 6-1... around there.. it's when i go to the bigger games where it goes so hectic with the blinds and tightness that I have trouble.
This place doesn't have much options I don' tknow if anyone here has used Sportsinteraction.
At 90 and some cents.
I think for every question like this, there are 10 people thinking it....