Turning Pro.

For me that's the dream.. I mean you hear the stories of good tough Canadian boys Daniel Negreau and Jonathan whats his face just start out small and boom a big win right here and millionaire.

But in reality it just doesn't work like that.. now any chance that there are some people here that play poker for a living? Has anyone ever tried it? If so where did you get started? Limit cash games? or what?

I remember Negreau telling a story that he almost never played no limit it was strictly the 10-20 limit tables.
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  • Macke wrote: »
    For me that's the dream.. I mean you hear the stories of good tough Canadian boys Daniel Negreau and Jonathan whats his face just start out small and boom a big win right here and millionaire.

    But in reality it just doesn't work like that.. now any chance that there are some people here that play poker for a living? Has anyone ever tried it? If so where did you get started? Limit cash games? or what?

    I remember Negreau telling a story that he almost never played no limit it was strictly the 10-20 limit tables.

    This depends. What decade are you going to be playing in?

    I played part time pro for a while to take some time off of work but I doubt I would ever do it full time.
  • Macke wrote: »
    For me that's the dream.. I mean you hear the stories of good tough Canadian boys Daniel Negreau and Jonathan whats his face just start out small and boom a big win right here and millionaire.

    But in reality it just doesn't work like that.. now any chance that there are some people here that play poker for a living? Has anyone ever tried it? If so where did you get started? Limit cash games? or what?

    I remember Negreau telling a story that he almost never played no limit it was strictly the 10-20 limit tables.
    k i swear im the most qualified to answer this as i felt your way about a year and a half ago and have been striving to catch up to see if i can do it....basically you have noooooo idea what it takes and the learning curve....so the first thing you have to do is find out. and after that long of intense studying and playing (not enough studying but starting too), i still have no idea what it takes or how close i am (far for sure).

    I couldn't explain what you don't know it would take months of conversations....but anyways stick around and ask questions. and don't play to win play to learn....thats the biggest mistake people make for sure, they play with the same style/skill level for years and hope the cards go there way.

    and as for danial and jono, that was not a boom overnight million no where near....do some research, but just know that the history, the math, and the game theory goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy deeper than you can imagine........
  • If you are young, single, and can cover your expenses for several months BEFORE you start, why not give it a shot.

    My younger nephew got a full ride to a US college for soccer, played with kids like Atiba Hutchinson growing up. His back-up keeper at University is now playing MLS for the New England Revolution. He never had the urge to try it. In that situation, I would always wonder "what if?"

    So, with the caveats mentioned previous, why not give it a shot. If you fail, at least you will have your answer, and the ability to start over and get on with life.
  • Stay in school, get an education and fold A's preflop..? :)
  • compuease wrote: »
    Stay in school, get an education and fold A's preflop..? :)
    ive been reading about alot of the new school highstakes pros. and it amazes me that many of them stay in school and finish while winning and losing 1000's and 10000's on a daily basis....
  • Well keep in mind it's not a plan.. it's just a dream =P.. right now after being unemployed for the last month by bank account is well kind of low like really low.

    Daniel I guess was bad yeah I remember him starting out in Toronto and then moving to Vegas and losing his original bankroll.. But Jonathan I think sort of popped up overnight.. but I guess the best example would be Chris Moneymaker wasn't the WSOP his first ever live tournament?

    Anyways yeah poker to me is well firstly about fun but of course I'd always like to improve and learn I would like to play with some of you here anytime.. I am usually on pokerstars a couple times a day.

    ID: Daguyisback
  • Milo wrote: »
    If you are young, single, and can cover your expenses for several months BEFORE you start, why not give it a shot.

    My younger nephew got a full ride to a US college for soccer, played with kids like Atiba Hutchinson growing up. His back-up keeper at University is now playing MLS for the New England Revolution. He never had the urge to try it. In that situation, I would always wonder "what if?"

    So, with the caveats mentioned previous, why not give it a shot. If you fail, at least you will have your answer, and the ability to start over and get on with life.

    This. Gave/giving wrestling a shot. Could not imagine living my life with the what if had I not tried. Am I going to make the big time? 99.99% chance of that being a no. However, if I didn't take this shot, I would have never found the woman of my dreams.

    Sometimes it's not about the destination, it's about the journey.
  • Macke wrote: »
    Anyways yeah poker to me is well firstly about fun but of course I'd always like to improve and learn I would like to play with some of you here anytime.. I am usually on pokerstars a couple times a day.
    Why not come out to some of our live events or at least play some of the forum games on Stars...
  • I'd come out to live events but it sounds like there are very few members here from B.C and even less in the lower mainland.
  • We used to have a self proclaimed resident pro on here who would have happily told you about his morning poker drills, etc.... But we ran him off like the filthy dog he was.

    Try the forum game tonight like Comp said. Good game, good people, etc.
  • Not sure how you plan to play poker for a living without a bankroll? If you are going to play live, the minimum is $1/$2 at any casino or poker club. Online, its pretty hard to grind out a decent living at low limits.

    If you seriously like poker and want to earn an income from it, learn to deal. Take the dealing course, learn everything there is to know about the rules, etc. and find a job locally dealing. Nearly impossible to find a dealing job at a casino but there are hundreds of clubs in the GTA and they all need dealers. Some dealers earn over $100 an hour in tips. You won't make this for a number of years but even if you make $20-$30/hr dealing, its a decent income and your still involved in poker indirectly. Then you can build a bankroll and learn from others mistakes.
  • Well it really is a more pie in the sky... maybe it will be something I'll try out a little bit next time I am in between jobs when I am more secure financially.

    I mean I've said before I believe I have never played any cash games at a casino before.. so I don't know even if I was at the lowest tables what would be around a good amount of money to bring to one? would you say? Though I've been told the people near my area that play are mostly seniors and play very tight.
  • Ima be a cowboy astronaut.

    Watcha thinks?
  • I could never be an astronaut.. I'm scared of heights.

    Though a couple years ago when I was in Edmonton I did see a cowboy just walking his horse down the road.. the cops stopped and pulled him over.
  • Macke wrote: »
    I could never be an astronaut.. I'm scared of heights.

    Though a couple years ago when I was in Edmonton I did see a cowboy just walking his horse down the road.. the cops stopped and pulled him over.

    Man the cops gotta stop harassing couples in love. :D
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    Ima be a cowboy astronaut.

    Watcha thinks?



    I usually like documentaries but that one sucked.


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  • Macke wrote: »
    if I was at the lowest tables what would be around a good amount of money to bring to one? would you say?

    1/2 $200 max buy-in; first time you likely should bring around $200-$300. You can always buy in short ($100) and see how it goes. No need to lose 300BB the first time out.

    This is usually how it goes the first time playing at a casino:

    newbie - waits for AK and raises out of position to $8; all the sharks at the table smell new blood and call with garbage. Flop comes K52 and newbie slow plays his monster hoping someone else raises. Shark 1 raises to $30 and everyone folds to newbie who re-raises to $80. Shark 1 pushes all-in and newbie insta calls. Newbie proudly flips over AK and shark waits patiently to the river to make sure the board doesn't pair up and then casually flips over the winning 52 offsuit. Newbie stares at Shark 1 with his mouth open for a couple minutes then leaves the table quitely hoping no one notices.
  • I live in vancouver and frequent edgewater a few times a month.
    THe game there is soffffft. Gotta know your opponents though. Most guys will go to town with 1 pair which is a big payoff.

    As for becoming pro, It's not as lucrative as you think. My very good friend who got me into poker was a poker pro. He'd play 2/5 live, and 1/2 online. He would study for 2 hours a day and play poker for 6-8 per day. Lived in his parents' basement and made about 45K per year.
    He recently quit all together and now tutors math. He moved out and is now much happier then ever. Poker really REALLY messed up his attitude. He was angry all the time, not having any fun playing, and basically just mashing buttons at his computer.

    It got to the point where he'd get it all in preflop AA vs KK and be RELIEVED that KK didnt take it down.
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    1/2 $200 max buy-in; first time you likely should bring around $200-$300. You can always buy in short ($100) and see how it goes. No need to lose 300BB the first time out.

    This is usually how it goes the first time playing at a casino:

    newbie - waits for AK and raises out of position to $8; all the sharks at the table smell new blood and call with garbage. Flop comes K52 and newbie slow plays his monster hoping someone else raises. Shark 1 raises to $30 and everyone folds to newbie who re-raises to $80. Shark 1 pushes all-in and newbie insta calls. Newbie proudly flips over AK and shark waits patiently to the river to make sure the board doesn't pair up and then casually flips over the winning 52 offsuit. Newbie stares at Shark 1 with his mouth open for a couple minutes then leaves the table quitely hoping no one notices.


    Wow, very good post Jah, I am interested to hear more of these tales.


    Yes I am being serious.
  • Also my friend went pro with a BR of about 300 dollars and buying in for 1/2 games. Don't recommend it, but his hot streak went on for a long time and got good results from it. Eventually he had a 300,000 hand break even streak.... thats a lot of poker jsut to break even....
  • syphilaids wrote: »
    Eventually he had a 300,000 hand break even streak.... thats a lot of poker jsut to break even....

    That's another one for Prophet..."The longer you play poker, the better chance you have to break even."

    I got more poker stories than Robert Munsch.
  • Wow thanks for all the replies guys.

    At the casinos I'd probably start off with a couple tournaments to be honest rather then jump straight into the cash games..

    They just start so early though.
  • pokerJAH wrote: »

    I got more poker stories than Robert Munsch.

    Any coke stories? :D
  • You don't want to get into those tournaments. They are major crap shoots. You want to start small with like a $40 9am SNG tourny. Those are to bring people early to fill tables and brings in the fish.
    Although I cashed a crap shoot tournament in Vegas, but its highly not recommended.
  • kingkao86 wrote: »
    You don't want to get into those tournaments. They are major crap shoots. You want to start small with like a $40 9am SNG tourny. Those are to bring people early to fill tables and brings in the fish.
    Although I cashed a crap shoot tournament in Vegas, but its highly not recommended.

    Well thats what I was thinking of the early bird 30 buck things.
  • If you live in vancouver, don't bother with those early bird tournies (they're not SNG) the blind structure is horrid. Blinds essentially double every 15 mins. Barely get through a round of poker before teh blinds go up. They're Complete luck-sack tournaments, fun to do once in a while once you have teh appropriate bank roll. I'd suggest throwing cash online. Much easier to play within your BR and learn the game. Plus you might luck sack yourself to a final table of a big MTT.
  • Oh missed that part.

    I guess the place to go would be starlight casino then eh?
  • Macke wrote: »
    Oh missed that part.

    I guess the place to go would be starlight casino then eh?


    i used to have an imaginary friend named macke...pronounced...mackie....

    good ol mackie-bo
  • Are you making fun of me?
  • Macke wrote: »
    Are you making fun of me?
    no:-\
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