It's a discussion thread not the I love BB thread. You are irrationally positive on BB. Every negative comment you have to give a response. I just can't figure out why.
This. There must be more to the story. Let us know Comp.
Seriously do we have to keep having the same conversation everytime someone posts anything about BB that is not glowingly positive.
Anyone that says anything, you mostly treat it as negative and has some 'hidden agenda' with 'more to the story'.
No, its you comp. Take off the rose coloured glasses. Please.
Well you are wrong. I haven't said anything that aren't facts.
This is the BB thread. Pick another company on the decline and make a new thread.
Moose facts:
“I would say it is pretty much over for BB.” –Jul 14, 2013
(Still alive)
“6 months at best unless Fairfax comes up with more.” – Feb 07, 2014
(Still alive, no more funding raised)
“They have done nothing since last quarter to increase revenues so I fully expect another large decline and another multi-billion dollar loss when the year end comes Mar. 1.” –Feb 25, 2014
(Didn’t happen)
“They don't even make handsets anymore.” –Feb 26, 2014
(Yes they do. The Passport was internally designed and is launching imminently)
“No new phones announced, basically nothing new announced that would stop the freefall in revenue.” –Mar 28, 2014
“Reporting tomorrow. Stock rose today but TSX also hit an alltime high so who the fuck cares about BB when tons of money to be made elsewhere.” –June 18, 2014
(Surprise positive quarter and Moose goes quiet for 3 months, stock hasn’t been under $8 US since)
“All they have done is cut costs. Have they done anything to reverse the decline in revenues? ” –Sept 12, 2014
(Actually yes. Graph the revenues for the last few years and you will see last quarter showed a partial stemming of the bleeding on top of seemingly getting the costs under control.)
I really don't mind a negative BB view. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But blanket en mass 'BlackBerry is dead' regurgitation of internet 'news' not only has proven wrong so far it actually hurts the company. You had good points about revenues declining and massive losses but then you went beyond that and told everyone BB was already dead rather than just stating the risks you saw. That's all I took issue with.
They certainly aren't out of the woods yet. Even by Chen's statement break even won't happen for 2 more quarters. But they are still on thier feet and there are signs the turnaround plan might be working.
Do I win for getting the most multi quoted message?
Actually I cared so little I forgot to check back and see what their results were for the last quarter. Meh still losing money on hardware. Small profit due to extraordinary items which I assume were tax credits on their massive losses and sales of most of their property in Waterloo.
They sell so few phones, especially in NA, they are non relevant. So in the end if they survive, does it really matter?
I guess they report again shortly. I'm not quoting anybody if they lose more money.
You understand what break even means... and when that is suppose to happen right? If not maybe you should find some of my quotes They are expected to lose money again this quarter and the next.
I'm not just talking about the idiots in the apple lineup, because the "anti-apple" camp has gotten just as much out of hand.
how about everyone just gets the phone they want and I won't judge them for it.
(Unless its a blackberry... WTF are you thinking??????)
I'd have to agree. A while back I was talking to someone who was practically giddy with excitement over getting a new iphone. I asked what was wrong with the one they had. Sadly they responded "the new one's white".
I tend not to be anti-any phone. If it does what you need it to do, who cares. I have a blackberry, it does what I need it to do. I don't feel I'm losing out on anything. I don't feel the need to dress it up in anything other than the stupidly designed Otterbox cover that's supposed to keep dust, etc. out and doesn't.
If you really want to depress yourself, go and check out some of the (insert phone name here) forums. I honestly believe some people would kill for their phone like it was their own child.
Again I am not arguing BB has the best devices for everyone, just saying BB hating is still trendy and much of it is engineered. I ask that people give it a fair assessment before they just regurgitate some blogs ore 'tech reviewers 'opinion'.
BB closed today at $12.63, my last buy was early August at $10.20, sold all I bought then today at $12.50. My thinking is it has had a good run up since it bottomed out at under $8. in April. Due for a correction I think.. One of these times I'll end up selling too early or too late.. Is this the time?
I know it's not realistic long term nor on every stock but this stock has earned me about 16% per year for the last 2 years.. Wish I had invested something significant, just didn't have the ........ :mad:
Went down to test the 50 day MA recently but it held turning up from there. Bounced off the first resistance level today at $11.17 US. Next after that would be $11.65. If it can break both that would be a decent rally. But who knows if it will.
Went down to test the 50 day MA recently but it held turning up from there. Bounced off the first resistance level today at $11.17 US. Next after that would be $11.65. If it can break both that would be a decent rally. But who knows if it will.
lol, wish I understood that..:p My numbers are CDN..
Recent peaks on the daily and weekly charts become lines of resistance where it takes some momentum to break through. The moving averages are currently support points where it downward pressure to break below. So if there is enough force to break through the recent $11.17 resistance (closes above) then it should likely easily move to the next one at $11.65. Or $11.17 if there is not enough force $11.17 holds and proves to be the high water mark for a short rally.
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This is the BB thread. Pick another company on the decline and make a new thread.
Got it, I'm done..
This. There must be more to the story. Let us know Comp.
Seriously do we have to keep having the same conversation everytime someone posts anything about BB that is not glowingly positive.
Anyone that says anything, you mostly treat it as negative and has some 'hidden agenda' with 'more to the story'.
No, its you comp. Take off the rose coloured glasses. Please.
Moose facts:
“I would say it is pretty much over for BB.” –Jul 14, 2013
(Still alive)
“6 months at best unless Fairfax comes up with more.” – Feb 07, 2014
(Still alive, no more funding raised)
“They have done nothing since last quarter to increase revenues so I fully expect another large decline and another multi-billion dollar loss when the year end comes Mar. 1.” –Feb 25, 2014
(Didn’t happen)
“They don't even make handsets anymore.” –Feb 26, 2014
(Yes they do. The Passport was internally designed and is launching imminently)
“No new phones announced, basically nothing new announced that would stop the freefall in revenue.” –Mar 28, 2014
“Reporting tomorrow. Stock rose today but TSX also hit an alltime high so who the fuck cares about BB when tons of money to be made elsewhere.” –June 18, 2014
(Surprise positive quarter and Moose goes quiet for 3 months, stock hasn’t been under $8 US since)
“All they have done is cut costs. Have they done anything to reverse the decline in revenues? ” –Sept 12, 2014
(Actually yes. Graph the revenues for the last few years and you will see last quarter showed a partial stemming of the bleeding on top of seemingly getting the costs under control.)
I really don't mind a negative BB view. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But blanket en mass 'BlackBerry is dead' regurgitation of internet 'news' not only has proven wrong so far it actually hurts the company. You had good points about revenues declining and massive losses but then you went beyond that and told everyone BB was already dead rather than just stating the risks you saw. That's all I took issue with.
They certainly aren't out of the woods yet. Even by Chen's statement break even won't happen for 2 more quarters. But they are still on thier feet and there are signs the turnaround plan might be working.
Wow... me stating BlackBerry might have a shot to survive makes me a 'fanboy'.
And next time you want to call me an idiot for doing so do it to my face or STFU.
Fed is still commenting in threads where he has zero information/knowledge just to get some attention...who would have thought?
lol..
it would depend on your definition of that
Actually I cared so little I forgot to check back and see what their results were for the last quarter. Meh still losing money on hardware. Small profit due to extraordinary items which I assume were tax credits on their massive losses and sales of most of their property in Waterloo.
They sell so few phones, especially in NA, they are non relevant. So in the end if they survive, does it really matter?
I guess they report again shortly. I'm not quoting anybody if they lose more money.
I'm sure it matters to everyone who works there.
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But I have no doubt this will shatter all records anyway.
I'm not just talking about the idiots in the apple lineup, because the "anti-apple" camp has gotten just as much out of hand.
how about everyone just gets the phone they want and I won't judge them for it.
(Unless its a blackberry... WTF are you thinking??????)
I'd have to agree. A while back I was talking to someone who was practically giddy with excitement over getting a new iphone. I asked what was wrong with the one they had. Sadly they responded "the new one's white".
I tend not to be anti-any phone. If it does what you need it to do, who cares. I have a blackberry, it does what I need it to do. I don't feel I'm losing out on anything. I don't feel the need to dress it up in anything other than the stupidly designed Otterbox cover that's supposed to keep dust, etc. out and doesn't.
If you really want to depress yourself, go and check out some of the (insert phone name here) forums. I honestly believe some people would kill for their phone like it was their own child.
But the main point being true... reviews, blogs, financial advisors and the media are all paid off to direct us where the man with the wallet points.
The BlackBerry Passport Versus The Media
Again I am not arguing BB has the best devices for everyone, just saying BB hating is still trendy and much of it is engineered. I ask that people give it a fair assessment before they just regurgitate some blogs ore 'tech reviewers 'opinion'.
#BBFactCheck - What Some BlackBerry Passport Reviews Got Wrong | N4BB
As to the recent quarter results earnings beat and cash pile stable but Moose's concern of lowering revenues is still in play.
Need more proof e-opinions are sponsored... look who's throwing BGR a party?
http://bgr.com/2014/10/02/bgr-anniversary-event-nyc/
Another 80's reference for you.
I know it's not realistic long term nor on every stock but this stock has earned me about 16% per year for the last 2 years.. Wish I had invested something significant, just didn't have the ........ :mad:
Went down to test the 50 day MA recently but it held turning up from there. Bounced off the first resistance level today at $11.17 US. Next after that would be $11.65. If it can break both that would be a decent rally. But who knows if it will.
lol, wish I understood that..:p My numbers are CDN..
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