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when to walk away?
Ran horribly 2 weeks ago, took a week off.. came back to the game last night, played really well at 8 game and a SnG... profited 800$ or so.
today, lost half my entire BR in about 2 hours.
My question is, what do I do?
Walk away and re evaluate? I dont think Im making bad moves, just running real bad.. i.e hitting high pair on flop and getting raped by a garbage hand that caught 2 lower pairs, or a set, etc... perhaps a little trigger happy with the mouse but I thought they were ethical plays on my half.
Im pretty discouraged... another problem I have is I dont want to drop down in blinds. I only like playing bigger blinds and higher stakes, when I bump down, Im less encouraged to play and start playing really dumb because I feel I can boss around the lesser blind players...
thoughts? help.....
today, lost half my entire BR in about 2 hours.
My question is, what do I do?
Walk away and re evaluate? I dont think Im making bad moves, just running real bad.. i.e hitting high pair on flop and getting raped by a garbage hand that caught 2 lower pairs, or a set, etc... perhaps a little trigger happy with the mouse but I thought they were ethical plays on my half.
Im pretty discouraged... another problem I have is I dont want to drop down in blinds. I only like playing bigger blinds and higher stakes, when I bump down, Im less encouraged to play and start playing really dumb because I feel I can boss around the lesser blind players...
thoughts? help.....
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you could start by not risking half your bankroll in a two hour session. Obviously you are playing at limits your bankroll can't withstand. High pair won't make you money long run in a cash game. Harrington talks quite a bit about this in Vol. 1 for cash games.
I dont think having a BR of 1200~$ and playing at 1/2 NLHE 6 max and 3/6 o8 is that bad... do you? I could be wrong...
thoughts?
ie. $1000 BR is a decent BR for .25/.50c games...
No bankroll is going to be enough for a losing player. They just lose slower.
Fed, just take this as gospel. Don't question it, don't argue it, don't say anything about it. Do a tiny, weeee little bit of research and you'll find that what Schabs is saying is the standard rule you should be applying to your game. Er whatever you call it.
However ALOT of my play is short stacked driven. I just honestly feel that I can out play anybody at any given time, thus, dont need to come to a table with anything more then the minimum. It has always led me to be very profitable, but it has caught up to me, and im losing my witts and enthusiasm for this game that I love/hate more then my girlfriend. Its forcing me to take a step back and totally re-evaluate how and why I play the game.
Thanx for the input fellas, Ill drop down and work my way back up in blinds when I get the bug back.
Anyone else besides me laugh when they read these two sentences?
What, you think its bad that I play with confidence?
You must be one of those max stack guys that get all butt hurt when i come in with my measly 100 bucks or whatever and gobble up your big stack in 5 hands... love it.
I got enough buy ins to get back into the swing of things, need to run better...
Thanx for making me a little tilted boys, im inspired to go kick some ass now...
Bolded the important stuff re: Fed . . .
The best part of this thread is that I only see the intelligent parts.
MG, read Harrington on Cash Games Vol. 1. Then read it again. Take what he says about BR management to heart. No idea what your bankroll is at the moment, nor do I care. If you lost 50% of it, something is wrong somewhere. You need to find out what it is and fix it. Or, just keep donating to the pyramid, instead of taking some off the top.
Observed and noted.
Thanx milo.
first part shows that you have a problem with your poker. the 2nd part shows that you have a problem with your relationship...
i can't be any other way.
only answer is now obv
If you are playing 1/2 NL 6-max, you should have a min roll of $4k to handle the swings and variance. I play more full ring than 6-max, but I think others with more experience would argue that you actually need more than 20 buy-ins when playing 6-max. Due to the usually above-average aggression of the players, especially at $200NL, you will encounter more swings than standard FR.
standard broll is 6k
The above average agression is what I thrive off off.. make a couple good agressive bets, show your bluff, it tilts them so bad that you really start to take their chips when you are running well and actually getting hands.
As I've metnioned before Ive tilted and pissed off ppl so bad for buying in at tables with minimums and taking them for hundreds with nothing, they chase me around the whole night harassing me trying to get their money back.
FR is harder for me to read players, and I dont run well there.
can anyone give me any BR management advice playing o8?
Thanx.
Im sad you feel that way Billy.
Im trying to come up with a new strategy and approach, as my current one is clearly not working.
I value and respect the advice given in this thread and will try and adjust accordingly.
oh, and to follow up on what Bill said,
FOOL <<< >>> $$$$
This is about as A, B, C as I can make it for you, MG.
I'd ask if you like my new avatar, but I will not see the answer so . . . toodles.
well played sir
Comp, THANKS.
Ill dig em up and PM them to you.
lol @ milo having me on block and repeatedly calling me by my initials thinking its going to tilt me... doestn tilt me but I DO thinks its fucked. Almost to the point of tilt.
Makes it worse that he has me on block.
:bs:
*blushes* Why, thanks, GTA . . . I try.
I do like your avatar, but take me off block. Its BS...
All I did was point out how much your question week sucked ass....
I think you just got too happy about your fluke of a run more than anything. Going all in with your short stack just to boast image doesn't really work so well on $1/$2. You might double up once your re-buy short stack but probably won't catch on again.
If you can really "outplay" everyone, then buy in the max instead of using this gimmick strategy.
You say you short-stack because you min buy-in. But you are probably multi-tabling pretty heavy. You should not be playing with more than 5% of your BR at a time. Although I have been guilty of this, try not to have so much at risk at one time. Say you were to go on tilt at a particular session, you can swing your BR pretty hard.
You are right in that. Pretty obvious I suppose..
was playing 4 tables, went up to 6, ran bad, tilted, back down to 4, then busted at 2 tables simotaneously, then ran here like a dog with my tail between my legs.
New strategy is in the works, and im back up somehwat, but its a slow grind to get back to where I was.
Im re focusing, and starting over with the game.
Going back to my micro limit drills, high stake limit, and o8 for the time being.
NLHE cant be touched by me at the moment, because it ALWAYS gets me in trouble.
:bs:
Your problem to me is you're an action junky. You like playing above your roll as you seem to believe you have an edge. Whether or not you do have an edge, the reality is putting down so much of your roll on any one table is receipt for disaster.
Now, not saying I haven't done it also. While I don't believe I have an edge, I feel I am a solid player. I also don't play poker for a living, it is a fun thing for me.