Schedule & rules
The Cup is less then two weeks away and here is the tentative schedule. September 16, 2006. Captains will have the venue details.
10:00 - 11:00 Registration
11:00 - 2:00Â Omaha/Stud
2:00 - 5:00 Fixed Hold em
5:00 to 6:00 Dinner
6:00 to 9:00 NL Hold em NL will start at 6:00 sharp
9:00 to 11:00 Headsup
11:00Â Closing Ceremonies
Omaha/Stud 11:00 to 2:00Â We have shortened the Blind schedule for this round.
PL Omaha Starting with 5000 Chips
15 min Blinds
25 50
50 100
100 200
150 300
Colour Up Break 10 mins
300 600
400 800
600 1200
1000 2000
1500 3000
2000 4000
3000 6000
Basic Rules of Omaha are the same as Hold em with the exception of each player being dealt 4 pocket cards and when the showdown occurs the best hand must use 2 pocket cards and 3 community cards.
7 Card Stud Starting with 5000 Chips
15 min Blinds Ante Bring In SB BB
5 10 25 50
10 20 50 100
20 40 100 200
25 50 150 300
Colour Up Break 10 mins
50 100 300 600
100 200 400 800
200 400 600 1200
300 600 1000 2000
400 800 1500 3000
500 1000 2000 4000
700 1400 3000 6000
Rules of Stud
The reason for posting this is that it came to my attention that a couple tables used a different method of playing. These will be the rules for the Stud SNGs
Antes are paid and then the dealer deals 2 cards down and one up per player
After the first three cards have been dealt, the player showing the lowest up card must make what is called a "bring-in" bet.
The bring-in bet, by the way, is the only significant time and place in poker where card suits come into play. The highest suit is spades, followed by hearts, diamonds, and clubs
After the action has been completed on the opening round, the dealer gives a face-up card to each player remaining in the game. Unlike the first round, where the lowest hand was forced to start the action, in this second betting round, the highest hand on board has the option to start the betting; that is, the player showing the highest hand is called upon first to either bet or check.
On fifth street, you receive your third up card, and then there is a round of betting, again started by the highest hand on board. (This person may be different then the first bettor on 4th street).
Sixth street is virtually identical: an up card is dealt, the highest hand acts first.
The betting on seventh street is identical to sixth street, but the card dealt is the last card you will receive, and it is dealt face down.
There are 4 bets max per round.
FL Hold em 2:00 to 5:00Â Blinds will remain the same as last time.
FL Hold em Starting with 5000 Chips
17 min Blinds SB BB Stakes
25 25 25 50
25 50 50 100
50 100 100 200
100 200 200 400
Colour Up Break 10 mins
200 400 400 800
300 600 600 1200
400 800 800 1600
500 1000 1000 2000
600 1200 1200 2400
800 1600 1600 3200
1000 2000 2000 4000
All rounds of betting will be capped to four bets even when there is a heads up situation.Â
6:00 to 9:00 NL Hold em
NL Hold em Starting with 5000 Chips
17 min Blinds
25 50
50 100
100 200
200 400
Colour Up Break 10 mins
300 600
400 800
500 1000
600 1200
800 1600
1000 2000
1500 3000
9:00 to 11:00 NL Headsup
Heads Up Start with 5000 Chips
10 Hand Blinds 25 50
50 100
100 200
200 400
300 600 Capped
Point System Given 8 teams
Point System
    1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th
Stud SNG 15 12 9 7 5 3 2 1
Omaha SNG 15 12 9 7 5 3 2 1
FL Hold em 15 12 9 7 5 3 2 1
NL Hold em 15 12 9 7 5 3 2 1
Heads Up 10 0
We will also be running a $2 50/50 Points draw.
The individual points winner will get half the pot and the person who randomly picked them will also get half the pot. Last years Points winner was Beanie and he will be out to defend his title.
Also each game Omaha, Stud FL Hold em and NL Hold em will have $2 highest hand jackpots. For $2 each game you will be eligible for the highest hand jackpot in that discipline. For all the SNGs you must show your hand to be eligible but a showdown does not need to occur. In the Hold em SNGs you must use your 2 hole cards to be eligible for the high hand jackpot.
Costs
$400 per teamÂ
$2 for individual points 50/50 (optional)
$2 Omaha High hand (optional)
$2 Stud high hand (optional)
$2 FL hold em high hand (optional)
$2 NL Hold em high hand (optional)
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10:00 - 11:00 Registration
11:00 - 2:00Â Omaha/Stud
2:00 - 5:00 Fixed Hold em
5:00 to 6:00 Dinner
6:00 to 9:00 NL Hold em NL will start at 6:00 sharp
9:00 to 11:00 Headsup
11:00Â Closing Ceremonies
Omaha/Stud 11:00 to 2:00Â We have shortened the Blind schedule for this round.
PL Omaha Starting with 5000 Chips
15 min Blinds
25 50
50 100
100 200
150 300
Colour Up Break 10 mins
300 600
400 800
600 1200
1000 2000
1500 3000
2000 4000
3000 6000
Basic Rules of Omaha are the same as Hold em with the exception of each player being dealt 4 pocket cards and when the showdown occurs the best hand must use 2 pocket cards and 3 community cards.
7 Card Stud Starting with 5000 Chips
15 min Blinds Ante Bring In SB BB
5 10 25 50
10 20 50 100
20 40 100 200
25 50 150 300
Colour Up Break 10 mins
50 100 300 600
100 200 400 800
200 400 600 1200
300 600 1000 2000
400 800 1500 3000
500 1000 2000 4000
700 1400 3000 6000
Rules of Stud
The reason for posting this is that it came to my attention that a couple tables used a different method of playing. These will be the rules for the Stud SNGs
Antes are paid and then the dealer deals 2 cards down and one up per player
After the first three cards have been dealt, the player showing the lowest up card must make what is called a "bring-in" bet.
The bring-in bet, by the way, is the only significant time and place in poker where card suits come into play. The highest suit is spades, followed by hearts, diamonds, and clubs
After the action has been completed on the opening round, the dealer gives a face-up card to each player remaining in the game. Unlike the first round, where the lowest hand was forced to start the action, in this second betting round, the highest hand on board has the option to start the betting; that is, the player showing the highest hand is called upon first to either bet or check.
On fifth street, you receive your third up card, and then there is a round of betting, again started by the highest hand on board. (This person may be different then the first bettor on 4th street).
Sixth street is virtually identical: an up card is dealt, the highest hand acts first.
The betting on seventh street is identical to sixth street, but the card dealt is the last card you will receive, and it is dealt face down.
There are 4 bets max per round.
FL Hold em 2:00 to 5:00Â Blinds will remain the same as last time.
FL Hold em Starting with 5000 Chips
17 min Blinds SB BB Stakes
25 25 25 50
25 50 50 100
50 100 100 200
100 200 200 400
Colour Up Break 10 mins
200 400 400 800
300 600 600 1200
400 800 800 1600
500 1000 1000 2000
600 1200 1200 2400
800 1600 1600 3200
1000 2000 2000 4000
All rounds of betting will be capped to four bets even when there is a heads up situation.Â
6:00 to 9:00 NL Hold em
NL Hold em Starting with 5000 Chips
17 min Blinds
25 50
50 100
100 200
200 400
Colour Up Break 10 mins
300 600
400 800
500 1000
600 1200
800 1600
1000 2000
1500 3000
9:00 to 11:00 NL Headsup
Heads Up Start with 5000 Chips
10 Hand Blinds 25 50
50 100
100 200
200 400
300 600 Capped
Point System Given 8 teams
Point System
    1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th
Stud SNG 15 12 9 7 5 3 2 1
Omaha SNG 15 12 9 7 5 3 2 1
FL Hold em 15 12 9 7 5 3 2 1
NL Hold em 15 12 9 7 5 3 2 1
Heads Up 10 0
We will also be running a $2 50/50 Points draw.
The individual points winner will get half the pot and the person who randomly picked them will also get half the pot. Last years Points winner was Beanie and he will be out to defend his title.
Also each game Omaha, Stud FL Hold em and NL Hold em will have $2 highest hand jackpots. For $2 each game you will be eligible for the highest hand jackpot in that discipline. For all the SNGs you must show your hand to be eligible but a showdown does not need to occur. In the Hold em SNGs you must use your 2 hole cards to be eligible for the high hand jackpot.
Costs
$400 per teamÂ
$2 for individual points 50/50 (optional)
$2 Omaha High hand (optional)
$2 Stud high hand (optional)
$2 FL hold em high hand (optional)
$2 NL Hold em high hand (optional)
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Comments
PS Sandro has made it clear that suits are to be used so it's all the same anyway.
Standard burn for all games with no burn in Stud.
Mark
I noticed some tables after dealing the first three cards would deal the following streets to the high hand first while others dealt to the dealers left. What are the rules on that for this tourny?
With a table of 8 or 9 players, it would be abit difficult to burn after each street is dealt, wouldn't it? You would quickly run out of cards. I thought that was why there was no burn in stud??
Stud tables usually consist of 8 max. I didn't want a burn because as you suggested running out of cards could happen. The rule if this does happen is that the dealer determines if there is enough cards to be dealt to each remaining player if there is not a "common card" is dealt for everyone to use. (much like a community card in hold em)
You can run out of cards but it's not a common occurance. A community card is used normally, but I have seen the burn cards reshuffled in the deck if that would give enough cards as well. It doesn't matter to me as long as every table is consistent.
Yes
That was going to be mentioned the day of. Team mates will not be allowed to deal or help players that are still in play. This would include looking at teamates hands and offering any advice on the hand in progress.
I was also considering that all games be run without an outside dealer. This is up for discussion of course but the reason behind this thought is that everyone has some vested interest (directly/indirectly) in the outcome of any match and I wouldn't want any outside factors affecting the match. Again please offer your opinions on this.
An outside dealer does make the game go quicker I find, but it should be someone with no connection to the current player makeup of the table. Otherwise, self deal should be enforced throughout the event.
Are you talking about hiring dealers for each table? I think that would be unnecessary for this event. I'm no expert but I would guess hiring 8 dealers for a whole day would be fairly costly.
One possible idea is to self deal until a player busts out, and then that player deals until somebody else busts out, etc until we are down to HU with the 3rd place finisher dealing.
Also you could add a restriction that if a dealer needs a break, another member of that player's team can deal in their place. This would still allows players to have a bit of a break, and
would prevent players dealing games in which their teammates remain active.
Brad
I like Pinhead's idea of last person out dealing until next player goes out, since this ensures every table runs the same, every player has the same expectations, and it's a totally impartial way of selecting the dealer. I would suggest a 5-minute break for the "recently deceased" since they may need some time (smoke, bathroom, etc.) and because they may not be in the right state-of-mind to stay at the table (bad beats) without a cooling period.
Brad
The consideration was to keep it self dealt and not let anyone not in the match deal. I would never consider hiring dealers for such an event. I do not mind having people deal after they bust I just want everyones thoughts on it.
So I am thinking we can go with the no teammate rule and make it optional if someone wants to deal after busting then the current players decide.
I don't mind someone offering to deal, I think it is a noble gesture and helps speed the game up....as long as they are not on a team that is still in play, I found this very annoying last year, in particular when I was dealing a game that was headsup and someone else came and started dealing as well so we had two dealers myself not on either team and one who was a team member of one of the headsup players, absolutely infuriating and ridiculous. Cheer your team on from the side lines like everyone else!
I'm also allergic to BO so let's keep that to a minimum!
Personally, I have a very low tolerance for BS!
In all seriousness, I am deathly allergic to Nuts. Peanuts, don't add Poker/"nut hand" jokes to it. For me its a matter of life/death.
I always appreciate that people take this into consideration when they bring their stuff. With Chips/Cards in play its a big deal for me.
Dave
Hope you have had a great summer.
I have registered for that forum. the problem with doing that way is that we are suppose to see those who pick before us and I don't know when to send in the picks.
There has to be an easier way.
Also, are the heads up match suppose to be picked the day of during the NL game or shortly there afterword.
Any help?
Brent
on Saturday. I want the players I feel are playing their best during the tournament to go up against
the teams which have done the best throughout the day.
As far as placing players, I believe the best approach is the explanation I posted on the other forum.
Just go through each table and if you are the next team to enter a player, go for it.
First priority is to get the Stud and PLO table done since they're the first played, but I see no reason
why we can't get it all done in the next few days.