WPT Niagara Satellites at the Fallsview Casino
Just got word that the Fallsview Casino will be running Satellites into the $10K main event in October starting on July 29th. From what I've heard, $1000 (plus fee) 1 table satellite (winner gets seat) will take place on Saturday, $500 (plus fee) 2 tables satellite with winner getting seats on Friday, and $75/$150 (I THINK, will confirm the buy-ins when I go down next week) super satellites on Sunday for seats in the 1/2 table satellites. For the time being, only the $10k event is confirmed with satellites running, and the $2K Canadian Poker Open (or something like that) will have its own satellites running soon (date TBD). There are no confirmed pre-lim events as of yet, and no dates can be given at this point.
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I was not referring to the two main events.
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Step 1
$90 ($73 + $17) Single table. Winner receives a Step 2 $640 satellite voucher entry, second receives a replay satellite voucher entry at $90 level.
$800 in starting tournament chips, 10 minute blind levels.
Sundays, Mondays, and Tuesdays.
Step 2
$640 ($607 + $33) Two table. Winner receives a Main Event entry, second receives a $1,200 satellite voucher entry, and third receives a replay satellite voucher at $640 level.
$2,000 in starting tournament chips, 20 minute blind levels.
Fridays.
Step 3
$10,300 Main Event Entry. Payment accepted includes cash, Visa, Mastercard, Markers, Certified Cheque, Bank Draft, or entry voucher obtained through satellite.
$20,000 in starting tournament chips, 90 minute blind levels.
October 25th.
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Step 1
$160 ($136 + $24) Single table. Winner receives a Step 2 $1,200 satellite voucher entry, second receives a replay satellite voucher entry at $160 level.
$1,000 in starting tournament chips, 15 minute blind levels.
Sundays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays.
Step 2
$1,200 ($1,150 + $50) Single table. Winner receives a Main Event entry, second receives a replay satellite voucher at $1,200 level.
$2,500 in starting tournament chips, 30 minute blind levels.
Saturdays.
Step 3
$10,300 Main Event Entry. Payment accepted includes cash, Visa, Mastercard, Markers, Certified Cheque, Bank Draft, or entry voucher obtained through satellite.
$20,000 in starting tournament chips, 90 minute blind levels.
October 25th
Buy-in at any level, or work your way up.
Expires October 21st.
I disagree about having alot of play in the satellites, especially step 1. With 10 minute blinds level, you are looking at maximum 1 orbit per blind level. After half an hour, you are at best looking at 3 orbits, and by that time the big blind is already 1/8th of the original starting stack.
Any news about super satellites yet?
From the attachment...
25-25
25-50
50-100
100-200 (25)
Why? Why? Why?
I really hope the Main Event doesn't have this jump or the casino is going to look really amateurish. Having your CPR (cost per round) jump from $150 to $500 is just wrong. (They did the same thing with Degree, which was excusable as it was a free tournament)
The CPR should never more than double from round to round.
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Dear Fallsview,
Please hire me to be your Tournament Director so that I can run your poker room. I promise to create events that are not only profitable, but that also bring about the perception of good value from the players.
Rob.
Is this blind structure so different from that used at the WSOP?
Event 43 Blind Schedule
I doubt it. Here the Fallsview link:
http://fallsviewcasinoresort.com/Site/99%20Download/Content/99%20Download.Rules%20Texas%20HoldEm%20Rules.pdf.FileValue.1.0.en.Texas_HoldEm_Rules.pdf
The first point says you have to be 19.
Plus, the winner gets a seat at the WPT Championship at Bellagio, Las Vegas Then you'd have to be 21.
Johnnie
I probably should have pointed out what I was complaining about. It's the jump from the 50-100 level to the 100-200 (25 ante) level. With this jump the CPR goes from $150 to $500 in one jump!.
The proper progression is from 50-100 -> 100-200 -> 100-200 (25). (Which is exactly what your link shows.) This progression has the CPR going from 150 to 300 to 500, which is a better climb.
It's better to think of this in terms of "M" to see where the problem lies. Imagine that you start with $2000 chips and are able to steal once per round to maintain your stack. In the Niagra schedule it looks like this..
Level 1: 25-25, M=40 (Green zone)
Level 2: 25-50, M=27 (Green zone)
Level 3: 50-100, M=13 (Yellow zone)
Level 4: 100-200(25), M=4 (RED zone!)
That simply's a HUGE loss of relative chip value and you have to be crazy aggressive/lucky to have a decent stack going into the 4th level.
The 100-200 level (no ante) gives you an M of 7 (Orange zone) and a little more time and a better amount of chips to steal to contine to survive into the ante levels.
To continue the example, let's say it's not enough to survive but to steal enough to make your stack grow. (aside: Phil's little green book as a great section on this.)
Let's say we steal twice per round, and that the schedule we're playing has about 3 rotations per level.
After the first level we've stolen 6 times which brings our stack to 2,150. (3 steals maintain stacksize, 3 steals increase stack by 50)
After the second level, we grow by 225 to 2,375.
After the third level, we grow by 450 to 2,825 and our M, going into the 100-200(25) level, is about 5.5
If we had that extra 100-200 level and, once again, stole twice per rotation, our stack would grow by another 900 chips to 3,725 (M of 7).
Note that in order to get to this chip amount without the added 100-200 level, we'd need to steal more than *twice as much* in the first three levels. (ie. We'd need to steal 4x per rotation, to get to 3,725 at the end of the third level.)
It doesn't look like much on paper, removing the 100-200 level and simply going to the 100-200(25) level, but I feel it has a big effect!
Whoops.. didn't mean to go on that long, but I was really getting into the investigation.
Hollywoods i don't know where your theory comes from but there will
be plenty of alcohall.
A.
I'm most likely there, anyone else thinking of going???
(edit: thanks 13cards)
I was told by the poker room that they run from 12pm until 12 am, as long as there is interest. So I am guessing they will have a list, alongside the ring games.
I will not play a single game at Fallsview Casino until they correct this blunder and add a 100/200+0 blind level ... or hire Zithal as the tournament director!
Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, that these blind schedules/SNG formats were dictated by the WPT? The AGCO? Hmmmm...
Level Blinds  Ante
1Â Â Â Â 25-50Â Â Â 0
2Â Â Â Â 50-100Â Â 0
3Â Â Â Â 100-200 0
4Â Â Â Â 100-200 25
Hopefully, it is just an oversight that will be corrected. To those that have already played in the Fallsview satellites with 15%+ rake, what were the blinds after 50/100+0?