If it is to be a Regional/city thing I think we need to look at exactly who should play where. In my case, Aimee and KRT we live outside the GTA and the Toronto team would actually be the closest (unless we put in a team North or something). Same thing G2 doesn't live in a large suburb of Milton, and Easy I don't believe lives in Kitchener any more tho still has striong ties to that area as anyone who was at her Bday party/poker tourney can attest to. Please correct me if I'm wrong. There again may be other players who were out of place for this to be a regional thing.
Once we get who can play where out of the way then I guess we can start looking at forming teams, otherwise while area will usually have a connection it may not. Prior to the Cup on Saturday, I had never met BBC, never played against him and only knew about him from his posts on the forum. While others both on my team and others such as stp, beanie, mark, g2, Brent and Cam, Dead money I've had previously met and played against.
Otherwise we can have it loosely based on area, based on friendships (which obviously extend past regional boundaries) as there definately seems to be no shortage of talented players who wish to play.
Just my few cents prior to setting up any future events if this is truly to be a regional contest.
I agree with what AcidJoe said, that the regional part of it kinda got lost. At first I was a little put off with the idea of 6 teams from KW/Guelph/Cambridge and 1 team allowed for "Toronto", which apparently had to cover the rest of the Golden Horseshoe Then it became less regional and more of who you know, to get on a team. I'm glad (and lucky) I was able to get on a team, but only because I was one of the first to reply, and that's basically how our team was setup, and I know some people are upset at being shut out.
Of course the organizers are allowed to set it up any way they want, and this is not a knock against the organizers, because the event did run very smoothly considering the complexities involved with putting on an event such as this. I'd just ask the the regional element to this be either tightened, more clearly defined, or removed altogether in the interest of making it fair to all participants or speculative participants.
I enjoyed that I was able to get to know some of my teammates a little better because of this event, through a couple of the meetings we had beforehand, and look forward to participating in more of these going forward.
I think if we first set the date before forming teams we won't run into the problem of so many players having to cancel. That should make it a lot easier to stick to regional boundaries.
I'm not too sure about that - with this one the date was set fairly early and look how many players/teams
dropped out in the last week after already commiting to play.
Well said Hork, I agree that the regional thing got a little muddy... When we originally came up with the idea it was going to be 8 - 4 man teams, but grew so quickly we weren't able to react quick enough to lay down any firm groundrules. I am not really in favour of having any strict residency rules. Then we would have to police it and get proof of where everyone resided.... Â Way too complicated. Remember this is only for fun.... Â the low dollar amounts should help keep it that way. Â Also if we had strict residency rules 2 of the teams would have been short players at the last minute due to cancellations... Their spots we're filled by friends/acquaintances of ours from here in Milton. Greg (g2) was a different issue. He had tried valiantly to put a team together but due to circumstances beyond his control was unsuccessful. Know how badly he wanted to play, and knowing how good a guy he was and the efforts he puts in to run his own tournaments I asked him to join us. Sandro was aware ahead of time.. Â Jeff...
P.S. Greg, if i have to get you a "fake" birth certificate let me know.
I'm not too sure about that - with this one the date was set fairly early and look how many players/teams
dropped out in the last week after already commiting to play.
I agree. Â I think that for the next one, a team needs to submit the buy-in for the entire team before being officially registered. Â I know we were supposed to do that this time, but I don't know how tight that requirement was. Â Then, if you can't commit, another team gets in. Â If you commit and bail, a team could be added last minute, but there would now be "dead money" in the prize pool.
I also agree that things should be tightened up regionally, although I'm not sure "how tight".  I don't like the overall mishmash, but certain players would  legitimately qualify for multiple teams (for example Wes who's living in T.O. but at school in Waterloo).  I think firm guidelines should be put in place, but I would recommend/request the following:
- "grandfather" rule for existing teams - Don't force the break up of existing teams (since they have some history from the first Cup), but do allow the option to move into the correct geographic area (after the boundaries are set). Â For example, Greg should be allowed to continue to play for Milton or switch to a Waterloo team (in my opinion).
- make guidelines for multiple area players (like Wes), but similar to the Olympics, once you join a regional team, you can't switch for a future Cup. Â This does conflict with the "grandfather" rule, but it would clarify things going forward without affecting what's already been done.
Yeah, sorry about that stud marathon. Â I just couldn't dump my chips due to the amount of time we were taking, I had to keep trying to play my A game. Â There was a tonne of action, we just seemed to be passing the chips back and forth...I guess we could have added another level. Â I ended up playing three marathons on Saturday, it would have been nice to have more of a break believe me!
stp
It certainly was no fault of your or your opponents, the structure and chip stacks allowed you guys to pass chips back and forth. Those battles are fun to be in but hard to watch.
I agree with Hork, keep it regional and try to keep it fair. I think it should also be special, in that it is not every month or so but maybe only seasonal, have a spring, summer, fall, and winter event. Perhaps with the current Champ hosting the event so all challengers have to travel and the defending champs have home field advantage? How the teams are decided is going to be a dicey discussion but I think each area needs fair representation with a strict limit. Kit 2 had a few players not show..maybe Kit is only big enough for one team? Toronto is clearly large enough for 2. Perhaps satellite events need to be organized so people qualify for a team. No offense to Kit 1, they had a great showing but who dictates who as a captain. I mean no disrespect to stp because I think he is an excellent captain and understand he was chosen because he is respected by his peers and is a very good player, but could anyone who plays around KW put together a good team, yes, I believe they could (and Brent did a great job as well with Kit 2 even though we did not perform as well). ...it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. I for one hope to have a spot in the next one whether I have to win a seat or bust some knee caps to ensure one!
the team selection process made alot of sense in that it followed the Ryder cup of golf idea. A team captain does all the selecting for matches and who plays wwhich type of game and so forth. Expanding to fit in draw is a nice idea though. And something to address the amount of time per game, specifically 7 stud will be addressed I'm guessing.
Someone said the winning city should host the next Royal Cup and I think thats a great idea.
If it is to be a Regional/city thing I think we need to look at exactly who should play where. In my case, Aimee and KRT we live outside the GTA and the Toronto team would actually be the closest (unless we put in a team North or something). Same thing G2 doesn't live in a large suburb of Milton, and Easy I don't believe lives in Kitchener any more tho still has striong ties to that area as anyone who was at her Bday party/poker tourney can attest to. Please correct me if I'm wrong. There again may be other players who were out of place for this to be a regional thing. Â
No she doesn't live here anymore but was born here, and lived here, up to about 4 years ago I think. I think this was one of the requirements. Every other player from my team currently lives in Kitchener. I just wanted to clarify....
Perhaps satellite events need to be organized so people qualify for a team. No offense to Kit 1, they had a great showing but who dictates who as a captain. I mean no disrespect to stp because I think he is an excellent captain and understand he was chosen because he is respected by his peers and is a very good player, but could anyone who plays around KW put together a good team, yes, I believe they could (and Brent did a great job as well with Kit 2 even though we did not perform as well). ...it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. I for one hope to have a spot in the next one whether I have to win a seat or bust some knee caps to ensure one!
Eric,
Thank you for the compliments, it was almost harder to captain then it was to play! I had a hard time picking my team as I didnt want to hurt any feelings and didn't want to leave Brent high and dry for his team. He was very happy with his selections as was I. Of course, in saying that I would have been equally happy having some of Kitchener 2's members on my team. The selection process in making our team was one of the hardest things about this. Brent and I looked at all of the players that were interested, picked our top two and then had to haggle about the remaining players. I guess if you wanted to captain in the future and create your own team, I would think you could totally do that (I would encourage it). I actually think their are enough players in Kitchener that you could make three teams!
I would actually like to see teams from KW and not just Kitchener or Waterloo. Is that something you are interested in, Captaining your own team? I'm sure you would be great at it! I'm honoured that I was chosen to represent even though I'm not totally sure how I was chosen...lol. For the next Ryder Cup I may ask another one of my teamates if they want to take over the Captains duties, just to be fair if someone else wanted the experience. Let me know your thoughts Eric.
I guess if you wanted to captain in the future and create your own team, I would think you could totally do that (I would encourage it). I actually think their are enough players in Kitchener that you could make three teams!
I would actually like to see teams from KW and not just Kitchener or Waterloo. Is that something you are interested in, Captaining your own team?Â
Lol, I certainly would do it if no one else would but I think you and Brent were terrific choices, you know the game far better then I do and you know the players strengths and weaknesses far better then I do and that is very important when selecting a team and I believe there are a lot better choices then myself, we are blessed with a deep talent pool. Me, I just want to play!
I totally agree with your comment on 3 teams, heck (heck? who says heck anymore?) we could probably field 6 or 8 there are so many good players in the KW area I just wonder what the cap will be on the amount of teams and how an area like ours, with an over abundance of talent, will choose those teams.
I guess if you read between the lines what I am saying is, I want to go again, we all want to go again but do I deserve a spot? Should people that did not go this time go to the next, should the top 3 teams be kept together? I know there are better and worse players then I, I know my strengths and weaknesses and I believe I can play with anyone who was there this weekend but what about guys like Tyson, Tye, Rob, Johnnie, Mario, Lou, etc, etc. I guess I would rather lose a chance to be on a team on the poker table then have someone get picked ahead of me but organizing some sort of structure sounds pretty daunting to say the least.
I vote for everyone getting invited back and filling in the gaps as the captains see fit, lol!
I have to take credit/heat for the Captain selection. I took the people that a) I could trust to pull this off in their region and b) the person that knew their talent pool the best. I have to admit I didn't think this was going to explode in popularity in the early days and then tried to adapt to fill in teams from there on in.
After picking the Captains I allowed then to pick their team as they saw fit. Some teams just picked from interested candidates and some had play downs. I think to add a fairness factor Captains should look at picking a few players then playing down for the last few spots.
As for the next tournament I mentioned before that the top 6 teams will be automatically in (they do not have to be the same team members) but the regions will have those spots reserved. and that the top 8 would qualify in an event of 10 teams with the bottom teams being relegated. The relegations will be dealt by captains of interest to choose a fair way of filling in the gaps. I will monitor this but not organize it as it is very time consuming and I think the Captains communicating directly can accomplish this more efficiently.
The regional aspect should be adhered to and I did give some guidelines of how to pick your team.
If a person has lived in an area for a few years but were born somewhere else they can technically play for either region.
Examples
I was born in Sarnia -- (I think London/southwestern ontario should have a team) therefore I could technically play there
I went to McMaster lived in Hamilton for 5 years - I could technically play here
I live in Guelph -- last 6 years I could technically play here.
Now I choose Guelph for the first Cup and I am now bound to remaining a Guelph representative for all future Cups.
So there is some movement of where you can play I would just use your better judgement and birth certificates will not be needed.
In Easy's case there was a link and now she is bound to Kitchener.
The waterloo students are now waterloo players and have to play for that region.
As for outskirts like Acid Joe. Toronto will be a vast area and he could hook into any Toronto team. Cam is another example as he is in Ajax I believe so he will be considered a GTA player I believe that Toronto should have at least 2 teams in the next Cup. I would seperate Brampton/Mississauga into it's own area as well.
hamilton and the golden horseshoe
milton/oakville will take in burlington
and so on.
I just ask that there be some regional factor in your selection. We did mash together teams this time around to increase the field due to late cancellations.
I have actually already been PMed venues that we can use and I will discuss this with Brad (Team Waterloo) as they will be the quasi hosts of this spring event.
Slow down stp, all I wanted to do was clarify if residency requirements are going to happen, what they are and how you will qualify. If you notice I do NOT live within Toronto, nor to a even live within what is considered the GTA. It's better that they are discussed now and qualified rather than a situation where Easy and I are playing heads up for the next title and the 3rd place team complains that both of us should be disqualified. I don't think anyone wants to see that occur. I do like the idea of the regional thing, as it fosters a lot of competition both within the region and between regions. If you feel I was somehow picking on your team player I'm sorry that was not the intent.
Keep it simple. Restrictive residency rules / regions moving updown, it's all just extraneous process that'll keep things from running smoothly down the line.
Does anyone really care if someone lives just outside the kitchener city limit yet plays on that team?
 If you feel I was somehow picking on your team player I'm sorry that was not the intent.Â
No, I know you Joe. I didn't think that you were saying that at all. I just wanted to clarify as I didn't want anyone else to jump on it and somehow make it into something it was not. I agree with BBC that noone should or would likely care if someone from the outskirts of "whereever" played for whatever team...
Internet communication can be such a fickle thing, it's so easy to misunderstand what message people are trying to convey. I had no issue with what you said...
I have to take credit/heat for the Captain selection. I took the people that a) I could trust to pull this off in their region and b) the person that knew their talent pool the best. I have to admit I didn't think this was going to explode in popularity in the early days and then tried to adapt to fill in teams from there on in.Â
After picking the Captains I allowed then to pick their team as they saw fit.Â
I'd say you get the credit, all the captains did a fantastic job as did you and the rest of the organizers, great job Sandro!
p.s. tell your wife to fold Q4 to a raise next time tho!
10 team maximum = 8 regional teams + 2 wildcard teams (or 9 + 1)
All teams to consist of forum members only
Regional teams (major centres - regions to be decided) players from that region only
Wildcard teams (the lunatic fringe) players from areas outside of the these regions
JOhnnie I think a lot of people are in your boat. Zithal wasn't there and a few others. There are still a lot of players on the forum who went MIA. Braad.... Dave..... tyson. Now that 1 has happened I think there will be a lot more interest.
I thought I would put a thread in for any suggestions for the future.
My biggest comment was I felt 10 points for each heads up match was a little much. I thought maybe it should be 5 points only. My reasoning would be the teams played very hard for every point up until the HU. Those team points, for 3 tournaments, should be worth more than the total of the last HU matches. After all we were playing as a team.
The example is that each team had an average of 30 to 40 points for each of the first three tournaments. Why should the last tournament be weighted so much. If they only win half of the games they get 40 and all they get 80. IMO thats too much for HU.
Back to my original suggestion, the point system was based on 10 teams. So that means to me that some teams in the first 3 tournaments would get zero points in the first three rounds. This would dramatical lower the average number of points. This puts the too many points up for grabs in the final HU tournament.
This is just my opinion but, if you are a very good heads up player you have (no math here) a better chance of winning your heads up play. Say 70 percent? I am of the opinion that even if you are a very good Omaha, NL & limit player, with a full table of players you are in the money (top 3) only 50 % but more like 40%. This weighs the points for the HU too high.
I think the points for a HU match should be 5. An average team would get 40 points and above average team would get 60 points.
Not that I'm disagreeing with you Dead, but also by the time the heads up matches come some people are spent. Â I was pumped and didn't feel tired until half way home. Â But others were certainly dragging their butts behind them. Â It was a long day and by the time some heads up matches happened people were drained. Â I think a good look at the point system is needed. Â Beanie had 3 wins and 1 second and finished 3 points ahead of stp who had 2 wins and 2 seconds, and 3 points ahead of g2 and myself with 3 wins and 1 third. Â While I never played him, I was told he played excellently and probably should have finished further ahead. Â Maybe the whole structure needs to be looked at and certainly winning your table should be more rewarded. Â The heads up should certainly have a play in who wins (after all we don't want winners to sleep walk through one event). Â The one thing is the point structure did keep everything close and every heads up match meant something, maybe even more so than it deserved. Â
Great thread, and hopefully any difficulties will be resolved through this thread.
One thing I would like to add personally is I don't want to see this get washed down. Â I think once or twice a year for this type of event is enough. Â If it happens to frequently I think the overall desire will diminish. Â
One thing I would like to add personally is I don't want to see this get washed down. Â I think once or twice a year for this type of event is enough. Â If it happens to frequently I think the overall desire will diminish. Â
I could not agree with you more. The Idea of doing this 3 to 4 times a year will not work in the long run. I would like to see a spring event only. But that is just my opinion.
... but what about guys like Tyson, Tye, Rob, Johnnie, Mario, Lou, etc, etc. I guess I would rather lose a chance to be on a team on the poker table then have someone get picked ahead of me but organizing some sort of structure sounds pretty daunting to say the least.
I vote for everyone getting invited back and filling in the gaps as the captains see fit, lol!Â
Most of those guys were on the Waterloo or Cambridge teams and had to cancel due to not being able to make the date.
The actual point system would increase with the number of teams. I have a different stucture based on the number of teams. First would be getting 20 points in an event with 10 teams and then positioning it down from there. Making the HU portion less then 10 pts for an event with 6 or more teams would be a waste of time.
On saturday the SNGs were worth 416 total pts and the heads up 280 pts (67% of what the SNGs were worth). At 5 pts the headsup portion would be 140 pts (33%) and render it useless and have no baring on the outcome of the tournament.
With 10 teams I have a schedule of SNGs behind worth 830 pts and headsup being worth 400 at 10 pts per. This brings down the percentage to less the 50% which makes me think that the points may be too low at 10 per headsup match.
So when do we find out where the next teams will come from? I lived in Port Perry and Oshawa for a while, as well as Woodstock. I also traveled with the carnival for 3 years, covering most of Ontario.
If my team doesn't get reentered into the next event, I could really play anywhere I suppose.
I personally think that Guelph could cover two teams, if Kitchener could cover two, and Waterloo a team of their own (instead of two KW teams).
OK, shoot me down. (Just like every other one of my posts in this thread.)
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Once we get who can play where out of the way then I guess we can start looking at forming teams, otherwise while area will usually have a connection it may not. Prior to the Cup on Saturday, I had never met BBC, never played against him and only knew about him from his posts on the forum. While others both on my team and others such as stp, beanie, mark, g2, Brent and Cam, Dead money I've had previously met and played against.
Otherwise we can have it loosely based on area, based on friendships (which obviously extend past regional boundaries) as there definately seems to be no shortage of talented players who wish to play.
Just my few cents prior to setting up any future events if this is truly to be a regional contest.
Of course the organizers are allowed to set it up any way they want, and this is not a knock against the organizers, because the event did run very smoothly considering the complexities involved with putting on an event such as this. I'd just ask the the regional element to this be either tightened, more clearly defined, or removed altogether in the interest of making it fair to all participants or speculative participants.
I enjoyed that I was able to get to know some of my teammates a little better because of this event, through a couple of the meetings we had beforehand, and look forward to participating in more of these going forward.
/g2
dropped out in the last week after already commiting to play.
P.S. Greg, if i have to get you a "fake" birth certificate let me know.
I also agree that things should be tightened up regionally, although I'm not sure "how tight".  I don't like the overall mishmash, but certain players would  legitimately qualify for multiple teams (for example Wes who's living in T.O. but at school in Waterloo).  I think firm guidelines should be put in place, but I would recommend/request the following:
- "grandfather" rule for existing teams - Don't force the break up of existing teams (since they have some history from the first Cup), but do allow the option to move into the correct geographic area (after the boundaries are set). Â For example, Greg should be allowed to continue to play for Milton or switch to a Waterloo team (in my opinion).
- make guidelines for multiple area players (like Wes), but similar to the Olympics, once you join a regional team, you can't switch for a future Cup. Â This does conflict with the "grandfather" rule, but it would clarify things going forward without affecting what's already been done.
It certainly was no fault of your or your opponents, the structure and chip stacks allowed you guys to pass chips back and forth. Those battles are fun to be in but hard to watch.
Great job on second Kit 1!!!
Someone said the winning city should host the next Royal Cup and I think thats a great idea.
Can't wait to see everyone for Royal Cup II
River Mike
No she doesn't live here anymore but was born here, and lived here, up to about 4 years ago I think. I think this was one of the requirements. Every other player from my team currently lives in Kitchener. I just wanted to clarify....
Eric,
Thank you for the compliments, it was almost harder to captain then it was to play! I had a hard time picking my team as I didnt want to hurt any feelings and didn't want to leave Brent high and dry for his team. He was very happy with his selections as was I. Of course, in saying that I would have been equally happy having some of Kitchener 2's members on my team. The selection process in making our team was one of the hardest things about this. Brent and I looked at all of the players that were interested, picked our top two and then had to haggle about the remaining players. I guess if you wanted to captain in the future and create your own team, I would think you could totally do that (I would encourage it). I actually think their are enough players in Kitchener that you could make three teams!
I would actually like to see teams from KW and not just Kitchener or Waterloo. Is that something you are interested in, Captaining your own team? I'm sure you would be great at it! I'm honoured that I was chosen to represent even though I'm not totally sure how I was chosen...lol. For the next Ryder Cup I may ask another one of my teamates if they want to take over the Captains duties, just to be fair if someone else wanted the experience. Let me know your thoughts Eric.
stp
stp
Lol, I certainly would do it if no one else would but I think you and Brent were terrific choices, you know the game far better then I do and you know the players strengths and weaknesses far better then I do and that is very important when selecting a team and I believe there are a lot better choices then myself, we are blessed with a deep talent pool. Me, I just want to play!
I totally agree with your comment on 3 teams, heck (heck? who says heck anymore?) we could probably field 6 or 8 there are so many good players in the KW area I just wonder what the cap will be on the amount of teams and how an area like ours, with an over abundance of talent, will choose those teams.
I guess if you read between the lines what I am saying is, I want to go again, we all want to go again but do I deserve a spot? Should people that did not go this time go to the next, should the top 3 teams be kept together? I know there are better and worse players then I, I know my strengths and weaknesses and I believe I can play with anyone who was there this weekend but what about guys like Tyson, Tye, Rob, Johnnie, Mario, Lou, etc, etc. I guess I would rather lose a chance to be on a team on the poker table then have someone get picked ahead of me but organizing some sort of structure sounds pretty daunting to say the least.
I vote for everyone getting invited back and filling in the gaps as the captains see fit, lol!
After picking the Captains I allowed then to pick their team as they saw fit. Some teams just picked from interested candidates and some had play downs. I think to add a fairness factor Captains should look at picking a few players then playing down for the last few spots.
As for the next tournament I mentioned before that the top 6 teams will be automatically in (they do not have to be the same team members) but the regions will have those spots reserved. and that the top 8 would qualify in an event of 10 teams with the bottom teams being relegated. The relegations will be dealt by captains of interest to choose a fair way of filling in the gaps. I will monitor this but not organize it as it is very time consuming and I think the Captains communicating directly can accomplish this more efficiently.
The regional aspect should be adhered to and I did give some guidelines of how to pick your team.
If a person has lived in an area for a few years but were born somewhere else they can technically play for either region.
Examples
I was born in Sarnia -- (I think London/southwestern ontario should have a team) therefore I could technically play there
I went to McMaster lived in Hamilton for 5 years - I could technically play here
I live in Guelph -- last 6 years I could technically play here.
Now I choose Guelph for the first Cup and I am now bound to remaining a Guelph representative for all future Cups.
So there is some movement of where you can play I would just use your better judgement and birth certificates will not be needed.
In Easy's case there was a link and now she is bound to Kitchener.
The waterloo students are now waterloo players and have to play for that region.
As for outskirts like Acid Joe. Toronto will be a vast area and he could hook into any Toronto team. Cam is another example as he is in Ajax I believe so he will be considered a GTA player I believe that Toronto should have at least 2 teams in the next Cup. I would seperate Brampton/Mississauga into it's own area as well.
hamilton and the golden horseshoe
milton/oakville will take in burlington
and so on.
I just ask that there be some regional factor in your selection. We did mash together teams this time around to increase the field due to late cancellations.
I have actually already been PMed venues that we can use and I will discuss this with Brad (Team Waterloo) as they will be the quasi hosts of this spring event.
Stay tuned.
Keep it simple. Restrictive residency rules / regions moving updown, it's all just extraneous process that'll keep things from running smoothly down the line.
Does anyone really care if someone lives just outside the kitchener city limit yet plays on that team?
No, I know you Joe. I didn't think that you were saying that at all. I just wanted to clarify as I didn't want anyone else to jump on it and somehow make it into something it was not. I agree with BBC that noone should or would likely care if someone from the outskirts of "whereever" played for whatever team...
Internet communication can be such a fickle thing, it's so easy to misunderstand what message people are trying to convey. I had no issue with what you said...
stp
I'd say you get the credit, all the captains did a fantastic job as did you and the rest of the organizers, great job Sandro!
p.s. tell your wife to fold Q4 to a raise next time tho!
In my defence, it was only another 400
And my hand did keep improving......ok, i'll stop now, it probably hurts enough
lol! The woes of limit poker!
just my 2 cents...
10 team maximum = 8 regional teams + 2 wildcard teams (or 9 + 1)
All teams to consist of forum members only
Regional teams (major centres - regions to be decided) players from that region only
Wildcard teams (the lunatic fringe) players from areas outside of the these regions
Back to my original suggestion, the point system was based on 10 teams. So that means to me that some teams in the first 3 tournaments would get zero points in the first three rounds. This would dramatical lower the average number of points. This puts the too many points up for grabs in the final HU tournament.
This is just my opinion but, if you are a very good heads up player you have (no math here) a better chance of winning your heads up play. Say 70 percent? I am of the opinion that even if you are a very good Omaha, NL & limit player, with a full table of players you are in the money (top 3) only 50 % but more like 40%. This weighs the points for the HU too high.
I think the points for a HU match should be 5. An average team would get 40 points and above average team would get 60 points.
Great thread, and hopefully any difficulties will be resolved through this thread.
One thing I would like to add personally is I don't want to see this get washed down. Â I think once or twice a year for this type of event is enough. Â If it happens to frequently I think the overall desire will diminish. Â
I could not agree with you more. The Idea of doing this 3 to 4 times a year will not work in the long run. I would like to see a spring event only. But that is just my opinion.
/g2
On saturday the SNGs were worth 416 total pts and the heads up 280 pts (67% of what the SNGs were worth). At 5 pts the headsup portion would be 140 pts (33%) and render it useless and have no baring on the outcome of the tournament.
With 10 teams I have a schedule of SNGs behind worth 830 pts and headsup being worth 400 at 10 pts per. This brings down the percentage to less the 50% which makes me think that the points may be too low at 10 per headsup match.
I hear that from my wife all the time
If my team doesn't get reentered into the next event, I could really play anywhere I suppose.
I personally think that Guelph could cover two teams, if Kitchener could cover two, and Waterloo a team of their own (instead of two KW teams).
OK, shoot me down. (Just like every other one of my posts in this thread.)