Wsop-cpf.

What are we going to do ensure CPF is represented @ this years WSOP?

I mean, we could say that we'll have a $50 buyin with 200 members, but then there is always the very huge likeliness that the winner of that tournament will want to "take the money and run". Who has ideas? Throw 'em out in this thread, no matter how silly.

Do you think we could get 200-250 in a "meaty steak" tournament?

The stake...even if you lose, you would own a partial stake in the winner...say an equal share of 60% of the person who goes?

See here, Canadian $$ entry is ballpark $13,200

say we get 250 players in a $50 tournament. (okay, that's only $12,500) the 249 losers get an equal share in 60% of that person who goes.

Soooo...the person we send WINS $4,000,000 and keeps $1,600,000 of it. Then, 249 others get $9,638 each.


Do you think we could pull this off?

P.S. the person who goes, must win...oh, and wear a CPF hat and shirt and boxers.


Other ideas fellas?
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  • oops, maybe I meant the 60/40 split the other way.. lol I dunno. See i think of it that way because if i were going i wouldn't care if i only stood to keep 40% of myself.
  • Amazing idea! I am assuming we would do this online? Let's make it happen. Love the steaks idea...or is it stakes?

    Medium rare baby!

    stp
  • I think the thing to do would be to actually get a listing of how many people we have interested to pony up $50...cause if we can't get 250 or so then the buyin would need to increase obviously.

    See, if we held this tournament in a poker room that most people weren't already a member of, and signed up threw an affiliate link, then the $$ from that link could also get added to the pool (for airfare/hotel or something...anything or could ease the burden if we can't get the full 250 people)

    If we get it organized in time, there isn't any reason why we couldn't do a few of these...


    I also put a posting up @ my work selling shares of myself for $50 each. 2000+ employees here and lots of 'em make lots and lots of money.


    what do you think is more realistic? a 40% stake or 60?

    I think this may be important enough to actually use the "mail all members" feature. :) never done that before.
  • you'll get $50 from me
  • ya, I think we need to start a thread and litterally get people to reply..a poll won't do justice because people can vote more than once...

    SHOULD I email all members to come and read this post? I've never mass emailed before, I don't want to bother anyone if they consider it spam..
  • maybe if u emailed everyone, if they reply, there's your list...
  • true indeed.
  • I like the idea and would pay up to $200 to play in a live tourney. Only $200 since the competition is a lot stiffer than most qualifiers I would CHOOSE to play. If we did say $150 we would only need 90 players to send someone...plus we could have more and pay a few more players.

    I like 60/40 in favour of the actual winner...but I love the idea of sharing a piece of the eventual winner. You can pretty much count me in any time after April.

    As far as online...I am not sure I like the idea as much but I would play in an event up to $50 probably. There are way easier ways to qualify online than playing against a bunch of you guys and gals.

    So I guess I vote for playing life (which I probably can do a lot to help with organizing) and having a buy-in up to $200.
  • Nice idea.

    Problem with poker rooms online is the rake. Can you set up a private tourney where the site only takes a small portion of the pool? As an alternative, I've seen guys posting ideas about micro tourneys where one of them holds the 'real' entry fee in their acct. Say a $10 tourney with someone trustworthy holding $90? That way the fees are only miniscule - maybe $1 per person.

    As far as how much % goes back to the group, I'm not sure. The guy who wins has 'earned' his entry fee, why should he give back a huge chunk to the guys he beat? Having said that, the winner should have the lion's share of any winnings and I'd love to have a share of 40%.

    I'd be willing to put as much as $100 into a tourney. A little bit over the WSOP entry for expenses would be nice too. I guess we'd need at least 150 people to participate. Given the number that have participated in the $10 leaderboard tourneys, is this kind of turnout likely?
  • I agree with jimmy, it would be tougher trying to beat all yous bitches as apposed to the general poker population out there..
    Having said that, I am in.
    I would expect that $100 would be more likely though as I don't see 250 players coming out. I could be wrong.
    We could even have super satellites as well..
  • Sounds good

    I would be in for $100
  • As far as how much % goes back to the group, I'm not sure. The guy who wins has 'earned' his entry fee, why should he give back a huge chunk to the guys he beat?

    Because it gives us all that little chance to enjoy the WSOP even if we didn't qualify.. I know that the kickback percentage would be the only reason I'd sign up to play. It would be worth the entertainment expense for me to be able to root one of us on.. Without it, it's just another WSOP qualifier and I like playing those against bad players, not good ones.
  • Because it gives us all that little chance to enjoy the WSOP even if we didn't qualify.. I know that the kickback percentage would be the only reason I'd sign up to play. It would be worth the entertainment expense for me to be able to root one of us on.. Without it, it's just another WSOP qualifier and I like playing those against bad players, not good ones

    Couldn't agree more. I think that we should come up with a buy-in range and start a list of members that what in on this. It is definitely a win/win situation for all who play since you will have a piece of the whoever wins. Though, so guide lines would need to be set in place as to how we would do everthing from top to bottom...but I really like this idea and am willing to do what I can to help make it happen.

    I think if we kept it to forum members and their CLOSE friends then we should be able to find 100 players in Ontario to make this happen. I would also be able to run satellites to the Main Satellite to help elevate some of the financial burden for those who are unable to pony up the full buy-in.

    Sloth, let me know what I can do to help.
  • I think if we kept it to forum members and their CLOSE friends then we should be able to find 100 players in Ontario to make this happen.
    Excuse me for sounding a little rude, but there are others that belong to the forum here who do not live in Ontario. What about us? Shouldn't Canada's Poker Forum have a tournament for its members across Canada. Many people would like to play live, but cannot afford to go to Ontario to play in a qualifier. Why not have a series of live satellites in regions of the country, and then qualifiers could play online afterward, or the final tourney could be played live at my house.
  • I agree that it would be great to have all Canada involved but I am not crazy about putting $100 plus online to play against stiff competion when there already many satellites with much worse (+EV for me) players.

    I think your regional satellite idea may have some merit but having to play online compared to playing live just doesn't do it for me...the WSOP is a live event and I think sending the "BEST" (at least for that tourney) live player would suit the forum best.
  • Just thought of something else...we could have regional representives....maybe players representing each Province/Region. We could come up with a standard struture for the Satellite and have members run qualifiers in their region.

    The other thing this could do is help elevate some of the travelling expenses of the winners. They could probably split room costs and some other costs incurred while in Vegas.

    Again just throwing out some ideas.
  • Im down for the idea
  • I am in for this as well.

    Count me in.

    Having a piece of a Potential Winner would be great. Of course as well you could all end up with a piece of me.

    :)
  • I'm in for this, heck can i register twice, and play it as omaha :)

    Okay well seriously i think a live tournament may just be an easier way to go about doing this. Especially since the winnier will be going on to compete for all of us in the biggest LIVE poker tournament around.

    If you were doing it online i have one crazy idea that may be a more reflective way of figuring out who represents for the pool of money. Everyone who wants in sends $100 (or whatever to sloth) ... then we all register to play in one of those 6-7000 person freerolls on pokerstars. Last person from the forum (who contributed) standing represents at the WSOP. Or maybe the last 9 standing play a 1 table SNG, to choose the winner.

    I think either playing live or having to get deep in a field of 6000+ should help us get the right person.


    Cause if not we might as well have all people i
  • I would definately be interested. And hey.....if I win the WPT seat tonite what do ya think about a nice CPF ballcap for me??? Teheee....... Is anyone on there way to that?
  • I tend to think that the venue should be online, just so that all members from all over have the opportunity...heck, I wish I could fly out and meet you all :)

    See, going back to..if I found a "venue" (online room) that very few of us had existing accounts with then I could set up an affiliate link. Hypothetically, lets say it pays $40USd per new account activation..then we could hold the event(s) there and the affiliate $$ could be added into the pool..whether it be becase we didn't get the numbers out or to possibly cover air and hotel..it could also be redistributed to cover any house fees, (so if the house charges $10 for a $100+ $10) then you would get at least the $10 back from me. Am I making sense?

    I also like jimmi's suggestion of possibly looking at regional qualifiers if there are indeed enough players in your region. I'm sure all of us have family and friends that may be interested as well, lets just hold off until our thoughts are sorted so their first exposure to us isn't an air of disorganization :)
  • Regional qualifiers is a nice way to represent members across the country. Each 'region' could send x representatives based on the number of entrants. Sort of like the satellites that give one entry for each 22 buy-ins or something along those lines. Have the championship in Vegas right before WSOP. Maybe the regional prize includes the trip to Vegas??? Kind of an expensive way to do it but fun!

    As far as the sharing up pieces of the winner, how about the top finishers get a higher percent on a sliding scale, along the lines of what a regular tourney payout would be? Top 10 get 1%, next 20 get .75%, next 40 get .5%, rest get .25%... whatever works out to 40%.
  • Hmmmm, maybe chugs has an interesting idea. Does check'n'raise offer big freerolls or attract any large turnouts for their tourneys? I really like idea of a who finishes best in the field idea but again it would be nice to crown a live winner.

    We could always do both! I would certainly play in both a live and online satellite...the nice thing about online is that all funds are American and would allow the full forum access and with live we could arange region type tourneys to allow for some excellent live action.

    Just keeping the ideas flowing.
  • Someone who can answer for check'n'raise is in Amsterdam right now and sounds 'tired'.
    :wink:

    I'm interested in this tourney too.
  • As far as the sharing up pieces of the winner, how about the top finishers get a higher percent on a sliding scale, along the lines of what a regular tourney payout would be? Top 10 get 1%, next 20 get .75%, next 40 get .5%, rest get .25%... whatever works out to 40%.

    My thought would be more along the lines of basing on the amount won.

    Say we only distribute the money if the representive wins $100,000 plus (after tax withholdings, damn Yankees!!!) and splitting evenly amount all players. That way it will acctually cover the original buy-in of the satellite (based on $100 - $150 buy-in). If the represtitive pulls off a mircle and wins the whole damn thing (my guess is it will be capped at $5 mil for the winner) we each get $6,750 before tax withholdings!!! Very nice!!!

    I'm so in for this!!!
  • sweetjimmi wrote:
    Say we only distribute the money if the representive wins $100,000 plus (after tax withholdings, damn Yankees!!!)
    If the winner gets into the money, I think he gets the 10k buy-in back PLUS. So the satellite entrants would be in line for at least 40% of their buy-in.

    US might withold taxes but Canadians should be able to get it back. IN TIME...

    I don't like the idea of a large free roll myself. (Unless it is jelly-filled) Too many guys in there playing bingo when I've got 10k+ on the line. Couple that with all the disconnection problems that can be associated with large tourneys and it seems like too much of a coin toss to me for such a significant prize. Does a last longer winner in a free roll equate to the best qualified person to go to WSOP? I dunno.
  • perplexing...very perplexing..what to do. Getting ideas and pms thrown from every which way!

    every which way I tells ya!
  • i may play too :) depending where i guess? and when?

    absolutepoker seems to have quite a number of wsop tourneys :)
    i see a lot of forum tourneys going on there :)
  • I'd probably be in, but more likely for something online than a live tournament.
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