How often are we folding here
2x pot size river bet. No history.
***** Hand History for Game 12266318584 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $55 USD Buy-in Trny: 74394304 Level: 2 Blinds(20/40)
Table $7,500 Gtd (2827226) Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9/10
Seat 5: DimaDima13 ( 2,940 )
Seat 1: Koketka888 ( 3,000 )
Seat 4: WilelmSream ( 3,178 )
Seat 6: Yesss_ ( 3,102 )
Seat 2: billy_tha_kid ( 3,020 )
Seat 9: gintsg ( 7,060 )
Seat 3: mus1_k0n ( 2,720 )
Seat 10: raiserlight1 ( 3,100 )
Seat 7: Wetts1012 ( 2,960 )
Trny: 74394304 Level: 2
Blinds(20/40)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wetts1012 [ Jh Kh ]
raiserlight1 folds
Koketka888 folds
billy_tha_kid folds
mus1_k0n folds
WilelmSream raises [80]
DimaDima13 folds
Yesss_ folds
Wetts1012 calls [80]
gintsg folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 2c, Ah ]
WilelmSream checks
Wetts1012 checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
WilelmSream bets [140]
Wetts1012 calls [140]
** Dealing River ** [ 2h ]
WilelmSream will be using his time bank for this hand.
WilelmSream bets [975]
Your time bank will be activated in 6 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
***** Hand History for Game 12266318584 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $55 USD Buy-in Trny: 74394304 Level: 2 Blinds(20/40)
Table $7,500 Gtd (2827226) Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9/10
Seat 5: DimaDima13 ( 2,940 )
Seat 1: Koketka888 ( 3,000 )
Seat 4: WilelmSream ( 3,178 )
Seat 6: Yesss_ ( 3,102 )
Seat 2: billy_tha_kid ( 3,020 )
Seat 9: gintsg ( 7,060 )
Seat 3: mus1_k0n ( 2,720 )
Seat 10: raiserlight1 ( 3,100 )
Seat 7: Wetts1012 ( 2,960 )
Trny: 74394304 Level: 2
Blinds(20/40)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wetts1012 [ Jh Kh ]
raiserlight1 folds
Koketka888 folds
billy_tha_kid folds
mus1_k0n folds
WilelmSream raises [80]
DimaDima13 folds
Yesss_ folds
Wetts1012 calls [80]
gintsg folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 2c, Ah ]
WilelmSream checks
Wetts1012 checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
WilelmSream bets [140]
Wetts1012 calls [140]
** Dealing River ** [ 2h ]
WilelmSream will be using his time bank for this hand.
WilelmSream bets [975]
Your time bank will be activated in 6 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
Comments
Think about that again and repost.
What hands double pot the river here that opened pre (that we beat)?
Not many I grant you. Only thing he can have that would make any sense would be quackers I guess, but folding the nut flush isn't in my scope of game yet.
Am I reading it wrong, 3h4h is the only hand you lose to right? He's clearly not giving up on a pot that he wanted to take down.
He could always have 3h4h, but you can't lay down every time some one makes a move like this.
look at the hand again and repost, last chance!
Well before we come to the conclusion that "I just cant fold the nut flush", Id really like to try to arrange a hand range that makes this bet.
this is what i thought, but i suck so i call and lose to boat.
Looking at the hand again, i'm almost positive you're up against a boat. His betting on each street makes sense to rep a boat.
what is your line of thinking when you called the turn?
Its river dependent. I have alot of good river cards and position.
When he slams the river I cant assign a range I beat, and Im in the hand for 5bb. If he Vbets a reasonable amount, I snap call.
If I got bluffed, NH villain. I put myself and his shoes and figured what kind of bet I would make with a nut hand in that spot. Overbet makes sense.
22, 55, 88, AA, A2
I fold
Haha, wp sir. I agree.
In the end, I believe the little investment in the hand is not worth the call and I keep an eye on him ready for the next encounter.
Prophet 22
PS Sometimes I will pay that off just to trust my own logic in how I though the hand played out. Here I don't think is one of the times with such a small investment in the hand.
Decision is based purely on river bet size.
What I felt he had up to that point is irrelevant.
The only other hands I can see him do this with is weaker flushes. If he min raised suited connectors, he likes the heart on the turn and bets his draw. He can take the pot down there or if you call, he has outs. He hits his flush on the river, over bets to make his made hand look like a bluff.
I won't like it, but I call.
I have an answer but gotta go to school. Will try at lunch and give you my thoughts.
Prophet22
But this hand doesnt rep a bluff. It reps a hand that wants trip2s or a flush to sighcall.
Like I said, if he has a bluff hand and makes it look like the nut, well played by him.
What about a weaker flush ?
I think a weaker flush vbets this and doesnt turn it into a bluff. Its def in his range tho, a very small% of time.
Really the only hands that call this bet are minimum flushes, and spazzes that for some reason think he would make a ridiculous bluff in this spot.
I appreciate this insight Alot, been looking for this sort of stray talk.
Too often I think with emotion and snap think to myself "he's bluffing!" but when we sit down and really look at this hand it's a very clear fold.
nf