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HU spot
This was a strange spot for me, my read is he has Qx always. I have him totally pegged here, but I don't know if he'll fold. He's super timid but I've been picking on him. But the twist to me is that I can't win by checking the river. Also of course I have to jam if I'm going to bluff
Thats the read I guess.......
Poker Stars, $2.28 + $0.22 NL Hold'em Tournament, 2,500/5,000 Blinds, 500 Ante, 2 Players
JodaB. (BTN): 197,944
BB: 72,056
Pre-Flop: (8,500) 5
6
dealt to JodaB. (BTN)
JodaB. raises to 10,000, BB calls 5,000
Flop: (21,000) 8
Q 6 (2 Players)
BB checks, JodaB. checks
Turn: (21,000) A (2 Players)
BB checks, JodaB. bets 7,500, BB calls 7,500
River: (36,000) 8
(2 Players)
BB checks, JodaB. ....<^^>'s....?
Thats the read I guess.......
Poker Stars, $2.28 + $0.22 NL Hold'em Tournament, 2,500/5,000 Blinds, 500 Ante, 2 Players
JodaB. (BTN): 197,944
BB: 72,056
Pre-Flop: (8,500) 5
6 dealt to JodaB. (BTN)JodaB. raises to 10,000, BB calls 5,000
Flop: (21,000) 8
Q 6 (2 Players)BB checks, JodaB. checks
Turn: (21,000) A
(2 Players)BB checks, JodaB. bets 7,500, BB calls 7,500
River: (36,000) 8
(2 Players)BB checks, JodaB. ....<^^>'s....?
Comments
He has 54k back. I think less than a shove accomplishes the same thing...if he is a timid player he is never check raising you with a queen in that spot.
a) I think betting 30k looks stronger than a shove
b) You save 24k if he calls
Also, I don't see how you can put him on a queen given the action...especially if you have been aggro in prior hands
edit** doesnt seem like he's ever folding tho
also, why no C bet tho?
:arghh:
look at that board and put yourself in his spot and imagine yourself calling your stack off with 2nd pair and how often you run into an ace or an 8.
but aside from that hes uber weak tight
dynamics this was a longer hu. could be pot control. In a vacuum I cbet this every time
this is a pirate face
Villain always has a queen, thats the read, the question is do we value jamming over check backing and forfeiting the pot
not cbetting is an adjustment, tailored to the dynamics of the hu match, that started long before the hu match. I c-bet like 95% of hu flops (not a stat but just sayin)
Often I will create a flatting range as an adjustment to certain opponents, however against those that constantly fold to a min raise, flatting 56o is a mistake.
betting this turn will get many better hands to fold
not so directed towards you...but i keep asking how to add 4 apples plus 2 apples and people keep asking me how i know i have 4 apples...
Given my read...what would we do.
and we have no shown down value because villain has a queen and we can't beat it...
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HOWARD STERNS PENIS :mad:
I would rather discuss other types of heads up strategy in other threads...here villain has Qx
What did you call me?
Fine villain has qx, the answer is obvious then. boring thread
:bs:
superuser itt
prepuce?
you have to plan better. Bet more on turn so jam wont look so bluffy on the river. than I would say jam on the river, as played though give up.
yeah I was gunna give my opinion based on your read in a bit, trying to get into your head and understand your line first.... Not doubting your read by any means. I'd just play it different with no dynamic, that's all.
The only better hands I can see folding ott are like 77, 99, maybe TT & JJ. I would mostly rule out TT & JJ since he flatted pre. What other hands will fold to your turn bet? I doubt villian has much 6x or 8x in his range, and Qx is not folding the turn, esp since you're a bully!
As played, I was basically gunna say what btp said. Bet bigger on turn if your are going to bluff at it, in order to shove the river more comfortably. I don't like it though as I think you have some SD value and still not convinced we can get enough better hands to fold otr.
you have to decipher this sentence? for me...for realz
because only a bad player would consider jamming here without that ^ read
not saying im a great player...but just that im not just mashing buttons (all the time)
if you are betting him constantly as you stated you are uber-encouraging a call by Qx in this spot with a shove imo
couldn't resist, fixd