All in all, it sounds like nobody is against the idea, just not really ready to say, "yup it's a great product." since I didn't play, I never signed up but Comp, BTP and Lynne all seemed to think there "could be" some value in it. from what I understand, the bubble basically extends out another 10% of the field and you would get your buy-in back. I am assuming it is roughly 10% of the BI in cost, so one would prob have to bubble the bubble about 1 in every 8-9 times (using it to stay ahead of the game?
Could this be considered a bankroll management/protection tool?
Will it give players an edge on the actual bubble? I think some will agree that a basic rule is good players are going to bust often while trying to exploit the bubble and this insurance just makes that tactic less risky in terms of getting zero money back.
When you register, does it give you some sort of figures in regards to how many spots now pay, and how do you claim a "bubble" finish? oes it look like the software would track this for you?
Was there ever a write-up or review of BubbleProtection.com? I have Googled for reviews but have found very little. Even the paid spokespersons like Chris Moorman, Casey "bigdogpckt5s" Jarzabek, Ylon Schwartz and Will "The Thrill" Failla have spoken very little about it. Did bigdogpckt5s ever talk about the strategy of using BubbleProtection at TournamentPokerEdge.com?
Did anybody here ever try it and was able to quickly withdraw their bubble payment? I finish in the middle/late (20%) stage a whopping 36% of the time, so I think paying for bubble insurance would be +EV for me, not counting the other +EV strategies.
I did do a write up on the site that shall not be named not too long ago; Casey made a few analogies when he signed that I liked and quoted, but no, nothing specific as to how easy the process is IRL has been brought up. I tried to bump this once, nobody really replied. Since I didn't have players from here and it was more of a PR piece, didn't think it would give Scoops any value so skipped PokerNews.ca. Either way I owed the agents one for the free BIs.
Obviously, it seems to me that being able to attack on the bubble, with out losing your entire BI along with the time getting there, where most good players will go bust as they know how easily they can sometimes accumulate chips would have its advantages.
Casey compared this to "lowering the net for Jordan on widening it for Gretsky", imagine how much better they would have done. I would think even the best have days when they just don't have itin them to risk going broke, so I think in spots where you bankroll maybe a little lighter than you like, but the events a cant miss, this could be more of theoritical attitude insurance.
Obviously, insurance companies win in the long run. If there is enough dead money in this, like bad players who take it thinking it gives them an edge when they will still nit up anyway, both the company and the grinders will come out ahead.
If a popular strategy is formed and all the good players start Using it, well then the therotical bubble will just start that much earlier and it will be a moot point....
I finish in the middle/late (20%) stage a whopping 36% of the time, so I think paying for bubble insurance would be +EV for me, not counting the other +EV strategies.
This. Playing style will definetly affect its value. I don't think anyone should revamp their game drastically to make it fit, but if it fills a void naturally, shouldn't hurt?
Pretty sure those that go hard or go home early wouldn't benift.
I searched canada poker but did not find the article. When you have time, please PM me the link. An online player chatted that he had to remind BubbleProtection to pay for his bubbles a couple of times, so that doesn't sound good if I'm busy grinding to keep checking all the insured games.
Since all that BubbleProtection publicity seemed to fail to generate a single PFC deposit, I finally decided to be the forum guinea pig. Coles Notes: thumbs up.
Depositing and withdrawing was easy with Moneybookers. I was shortchanged once with a bubble payment, but contacting them via their website resulted in a credit for double the amount. Since my ITM is 26% and finish in the bottom 30% only 4% of the time, I also finish in the 10% bubble more than average, so paying for this insurance has been +EV for me so far.
In addition, I have higher finishes so far in the MTTs that I bought insurance for and cashed, possibly because I pay more attention during the bubble instead of not playing enough hands while multi-tabling. Withdrawing my bubble profits went to Moneybookers by the next day.
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Could this be considered a bankroll management/protection tool?
Will it give players an edge on the actual bubble? I think some will agree that a basic rule is good players are going to bust often while trying to exploit the bubble and this insurance just makes that tactic less risky in terms of getting zero money back.
When you register, does it give you some sort of figures in regards to how many spots now pay, and how do you claim a "bubble" finish? oes it look like the software would track this for you?
Did anybody here ever try it and was able to quickly withdraw their bubble payment? I finish in the middle/late (20%) stage a whopping 36% of the time, so I think paying for bubble insurance would be +EV for me, not counting the other +EV strategies.
Obviously, it seems to me that being able to attack on the bubble, with out losing your entire BI along with the time getting there, where most good players will go bust as they know how easily they can sometimes accumulate chips would have its advantages.
Casey compared this to "lowering the net for Jordan on widening it for Gretsky", imagine how much better they would have done. I would think even the best have days when they just don't have itin them to risk going broke, so I think in spots where you bankroll maybe a little lighter than you like, but the events a cant miss, this could be more of theoritical attitude insurance.
Obviously, insurance companies win in the long run. If there is enough dead money in this, like bad players who take it thinking it gives them an edge when they will still nit up anyway, both the company and the grinders will come out ahead.
If a popular strategy is formed and all the good players start Using it, well then the therotical bubble will just start that much earlier and it will be a moot point....
This. Playing style will definetly affect its value. I don't think anyone should revamp their game drastically to make it fit, but if it fills a void naturally, shouldn't hurt?
Pretty sure those that go hard or go home early wouldn't benift.
Depositing and withdrawing was easy with Moneybookers. I was shortchanged once with a bubble payment, but contacting them via their website resulted in a credit for double the amount.
In addition, I have higher finishes so far in the MTTs that I bought insurance for and cashed, possibly because I pay more attention during the bubble instead of not playing enough hands while multi-tabling. Withdrawing my bubble profits went to Moneybookers by the next day.