It seems like you'd rather be called by hands that beat you. You got unlucky, very unlucky, but I'd love to go all in with Aces and be called by 10s! You want those people playing against you!
Ok Aug 25th and 26, first two days after buy-in, positive cash flow.
Aug 27th
Game 1: Went all-in with A-10, called by A-2 I lost
Game 2: First playable pocket JJ, all-in preflop, called by 22, I lost
Game 3: Cold Deck, short stacked went in with AQs, called by 10, 10, I lost
Game 4: J-7, Flop 2 pair, Raise big, other guy all-in with 7-4s. He hit flush on the turn.
Game 5: A-7 Flop 2 pair, all-in, called by AQ which hit a Q
Game 6: 55, hit FH on turn, 5s/8s. Other guy hit 8s/5s
Game 7: Card dead. Flop 4/5 of a str flush, took a stand hit nothing
Game 8: Card dead, played aggressive, won 20% of the hands, but still ran out of chips.
Game 9: Card Dead, Best hand, 3-handed, K-3.
It seems like you'd rather be called by hands that beat you. You got unlucky, very unlucky, but I'd love to go all in with Aces and be called by 10s! You want those people playing against you!
Normally, I would agree with you, however when start losing them all, it gets frustrating.
Ok Aug 25th and 26, first two days after buy-in, positive cash flow.
Aug 27th
Game 1: Went all-in with A-10, called by A-2 I lost
Game 2: First playable pocket JJ, all-in preflop, called by 22, I lost
Game 3: Cold Deck, short stacked went in with AQs, called by 10, 10, I lost
Game 4: J-7, Flop 2 pair, Raise big, other guy all-in with 7-4s. He hit flush on the turn.
Game 5: A-7 Flop 2 pair, all-in, called by AQ which hit a Q
Game 6: 55, hit FH on turn, 5s/8s. Other guy hit 8s/5s
Game 7: Card dead. Flop 4/5 of a str flush, took a stand hit nothing
Game 8: Card dead, played aggressive, won 20% of the hands, but still ran out of chips.
Game 9: Card Dead, Best hand, 3-handed, K-3.
Finished 2nd and 3rd rest out of the money.
So. out of 9 hands, there are 5 (Game 3, 5, 7, 8, and 9) which are not actually bad beats. Anyone else figure this was the case? (P.S. if K3 was your hand 3-handed, and you're calling that a bad beat? Seriously dude. Also, game 5 you sucked out first. :P)
"your not giving any info in these hand. Stack size, blinds etc. these mean nothing. "
Well, I didn't keep that much info. And yes, these mean a lot. These are the hands that I was eliminated or crippled so bad, I was out a few hands later. If you can't tell that going in with JJ preflop and getting beat by 22 is a bad beat, there is nothing I can do for you.
"wow, how old are you? How much do you whine. like get over it no one cares about your stupid 50/50 bad beats. If you want to take strategy sure. But if your asking us to tell you how to make the flop turn and river bring you no bad beats, then your retarded to think we can help you with that. go to any forum and they will tell you the same."
Older than you I'm guessing by this stupid comment from you.
On this note, since too many oif this site are as retarded as this guy, I bid you all adieu.
I am not here to explain every detail and the differnce between NO bad beats and Never winning a showdown.
The mentality here is almost as bad as I see a the poker tables. People who are happy to throw thier money away, others who have the all or nothing mentality, those that can't read, and the rest that won't listen.
Most geniuses were misunderstood in their time sir. I think I've got it... you broaden the definition of bad beat, and your theory is correct! You are truly a great! In fact, I have learned from you!! Since I expanded my definition of "Got Lucky" and "Got Laid", I've fucked nearly 100 women in the past hour alone! I am now the studliest man I know!
I shall call my new pick-up art "Crazcnukism". Anyways, off to juice up on some gatorade, this constant sex is wearing me out.
Ok Aug 25th and 26, first two days after buy-in, positive cash flow.
Aug 27th
Game 1: Went all-in with A-10, called by A-2 I lost
Game 2: First playable pocket JJ, all-in preflop, called by 22, I lost
Game 3: Cold Deck, short stacked went in with AQs, called by 10, 10, I lost
Game 4: J-7, Flop 2 pair, Raise big, other guy all-in with 7-4s. He hit flush on the turn.
Game 5: A-7 Flop 2 pair, all-in, called by AQ which hit a Q
Game 6: 55, hit FH on turn, 5s/8s. Other guy hit 8s/5s
Game 7: Card dead. Flop 4/5 of a str flush, took a stand hit nothing
Game 8: Card dead, played aggressive, won 20% of the hands, but still ran out of chips.
Game 9: Card Dead, Best hand, 3-handed, K-3.
Finished 2nd and 3rd rest out of the money.
Game 1: A-T is not an all in hand unless you are already short stacked. And if you were short stacked, how did you get that way ?
Game 2: sucks
Game 3: its a flip, you are going to lose them
Game 4: J-7 ?? Who in the hell plays J-7
Game 5: A-7 - Ace-rag is not a good hand to play - you were BEHIND AQ preflop and ended up losing, go figure
Game 6: Sucks
Game 7: flopping 4/5 of a str8 flush means nothing, was it a gut shot ? How high would your flush be if it hits ?
Game 8: Those games happen
Game 9: If you are down to 3-handed there would be more opportunities to steal than just with K-3
I see two bad beats in your scenarios and some really bad play in most of the others.
OP, the reason everyone is asking for hand histories is because they need context. Saying that you lost a certain hand vs another hand doesn't show the whole story. It's like watching the ticker on the bottom of the screen for sports results. You're getting the final score but not how it happened. Without the how it happened, you can't fix the why it happened.
"your not giving any info in these hand. Stack size, blinds etc. these mean nothing. "
Well, I didn't keep that much info. And yes, these mean a lot. These are the hands that I was eliminated or crippled so bad, I was out a few hands later. If you can't tell that going in with JJ preflop and getting beat by 22 is a bad beat, there is nothing I can do for you.
Overpair vs. underpair is like a 4:1 advantage. You seem to forget that this means he villain will STILL win 20% of the time. Shit happens . . . move on.
OP, the reason everyone is asking for hand histories is because they need context. Saying that you lost a certain hand vs another hand doesn't show the whole story. It's like watching the ticker on the bottom of the screen for sports results. You're getting the final score but not how it happened. Without the how it happened, you can't fix the why it happened.
Flop: (450.00, 6 players) 4s Jc 3c
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 345.00, MP+1 calls 345.00, CO raises to 780.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 1,565.00 and is all-in, MP+1 calls 970.00 and is all-in, CO calls 735.00 and is all-in
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Aug 27th
Game 1: Went all-in with A-10, called by A-2 I lost
Game 2: First playable pocket JJ, all-in preflop, called by 22, I lost
Game 3: Cold Deck, short stacked went in with AQs, called by 10, 10, I lost
Game 4: J-7, Flop 2 pair, Raise big, other guy all-in with 7-4s. He hit flush on the turn.
Game 5: A-7 Flop 2 pair, all-in, called by AQ which hit a Q
Game 6: 55, hit FH on turn, 5s/8s. Other guy hit 8s/5s
Game 7: Card dead. Flop 4/5 of a str flush, took a stand hit nothing
Game 8: Card dead, played aggressive, won 20% of the hands, but still ran out of chips.
Game 9: Card Dead, Best hand, 3-handed, K-3.
Finished 2nd and 3rd rest out of the money.
Normally, I would agree with you, however when start losing them all, it gets frustrating.
So. out of 9 hands, there are 5 (Game 3, 5, 7, 8, and 9) which are not actually bad beats. Anyone else figure this was the case? (P.S. if K3 was your hand 3-handed, and you're calling that a bad beat? Seriously dude. Also, game 5 you sucked out first. :P)
Mark
Well, I didn't keep that much info. And yes, these mean a lot. These are the hands that I was eliminated or crippled so bad, I was out a few hands later. If you can't tell that going in with JJ preflop and getting beat by 22 is a bad beat, there is nothing I can do for you.
Older than you I'm guessing by this stupid comment from you.
On this note, since too many oif this site are as retarded as this guy, I bid you all adieu.
I am not here to explain every detail and the differnce between NO bad beats and Never winning a showdown.
The mentality here is almost as bad as I see a the poker tables. People who are happy to throw thier money away, others who have the all or nothing mentality, those that can't read, and the rest that won't listen.
You all have fun petting each other's egos.
***** Hand History for Game 67507115321 ***** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, September 14, 02:49:38 ET 2011
Table 538010503 24 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: Manos_Bolek2 ( $21640.00 USD )
Seat 2: danistiofi ( $14053.00 USD )
Seat 3: marroca5 ( $46844.00 USD )
Seat 4: Goral ( $15068.00 USD )
Seat 5: bergeroo ( $22707.00 USD )
Seat 6: All_in_at420 ( $8595.00 USD )
Seat 7: arnobu ( $15303.00 USD )
Seat 8: steve3331 ( $5904.00 USD )
Seat 9: BetrThanPhil ( $7479.00 USD )
Manos_Bolek2 posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
danistiofi posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
marroca5 posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
Goral posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
bergeroo posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
All_in_at420 posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
arnobu posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
steve3331 posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
BetrThanPhil posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
steve3331 posts small blind [$250.00 USD].
BetrThanPhil posts big blind [$500.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BetrThanPhil [ Qh Qc ]
Manos_Bolek2 folds
danistiofi folds
marroca5 folds
Goral folds
bergeroo folds
All_in_at420 folds
arnobu folds
steve3331 raises [$5604.00 USD]
BetrThanPhil calls [$5354.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, Tc, 2s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
steve3331 shows [2h, 2d ]
BetrThanPhil shows [Qh, Qc ]
steve3331 wins $12158.00 USD from main pot
Most geniuses were misunderstood in their time sir. I think I've got it... you broaden the definition of bad beat, and your theory is correct! You are truly a great! In fact, I have learned from you!! Since I expanded my definition of "Got Lucky" and "Got Laid", I've fucked nearly 100 women in the past hour alone! I am now the studliest man I know!
I shall call my new pick-up art "Crazcnukism". Anyways, off to juice up on some gatorade, this constant sex is wearing me out.
Mark
Don't forget the hand lotion.
Pfft... you're just not understanding my definition of getting lucky... you peons are all the same.
Mark
Game 1: A-T is not an all in hand unless you are already short stacked. And if you were short stacked, how did you get that way ?
Game 2: sucks
Game 3: its a flip, you are going to lose them
Game 4: J-7 ?? Who in the hell plays J-7
Game 5: A-7 - Ace-rag is not a good hand to play - you were BEHIND AQ preflop and ended up losing, go figure
Game 6: Sucks
Game 7: flopping 4/5 of a str8 flush means nothing, was it a gut shot ? How high would your flush be if it hits ?
Game 8: Those games happen
Game 9: If you are down to 3-handed there would be more opportunities to steal than just with K-3
I see two bad beats in your scenarios and some really bad play in most of the others.
You fucking suck at poker.
/thread
Dude, it was 18 months ago and I told you, raise more preflop next time and I won't crack you!
... or was that directed at someone else?
Now see what you guys have done.. We all could have learned so much from his experiences and now you've blown it...:(
Overpair vs. underpair is like a 4:1 advantage. You seem to forget that this means he villain will STILL win 20% of the time. Shit happens . . . move on.
Nice try and tone but we have lost him/her.
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: PokerTracker - Online Poker Software, Player Stats Tracking & HUD
BB: 1,500.00
UTG: 3,480.00
Hero (UTG+1): 1,640.00
MP: 1,290.00
MP+1: 1,390.00
CO: 1,590.00
BTN: 1,140.00
SB: 1,470.00
SB posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00
Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has Kh Kc
fold, Hero raises to 75.00, fold, MP+1 calls 75.00, CO calls 75.00, BTN calls 75.00, SB calls 60.00, BB calls 45.00
Flop: (450.00, 6 players) 4s Jc 3c
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 345.00, MP+1 calls 345.00, CO raises to 780.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 1,565.00 and is all-in, MP+1 calls 970.00 and is all-in, CO calls 735.00 and is all-in
Turn: (4795.00, 3 players) 9h
River: (4795.00, 3 players) Qc
Hero shows Kh Kc (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 64%, Flop 73%, Turn 83%)
CO shows Qh Js (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (Pre 10%, Flop 10%, Turn 7%)
MP+1 shows Jh Ad (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 26%, Flop 17%, Turn 10%)
CO wins 4,795.00