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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
BB: $63.94
UTG: $107.70
UTG+1: $62.30
UTG+2: $61.99
Yoda (MP1): $61.90
MP2: $22.10
CO: $87.14
BTN: $59.51
SB: $40.95
Pre-Flop: 9
9
dealt to Yoda (MP1)
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Yoda raises to $1.27, MP2 folds, CO calls $1.27, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.02
Flop: ($4.61) T 4 8
(3 Players)
UTG checks, Yoda bets $2.25, CO calls $2.25, UTG folds
Turn: ($9.11) T 4 8/B] 6[IMG]http://www.leggopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif[/IMG] [B (2 Players)
Yoda checks, CO bets $4, Yoda calls $4
River: ($17.11) T 4 8 6/B] 9[IMG]http://www.leggopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif[/IMG] [B (2 Players)
Yoda bets $10.50, CO calls $10.50
Results: $38.11 Pot ($1.86 Rake)
Yoda showed 9 9 and LOST (-$18.02 NET)
CO showed 7 7 and WON $36.25 (+$18.23 NET)
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
BB: $63.94
UTG: $107.70
UTG+1: $62.30
UTG+2: $61.99
Yoda (MP1): $61.90
MP2: $22.10
CO: $87.14
BTN: $59.51
SB: $40.95
Pre-Flop: 9
9 dealt to Yoda (MP1)UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Yoda raises to $1.27, MP2 folds, CO calls $1.27, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.02
Flop: ($4.61) T
4 8 (3 Players)UTG checks, Yoda bets $2.25, CO calls $2.25, UTG folds
Turn: ($9.11) T
4 8/B] 6[IMG]http://www.leggopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif[/IMG] [B (2 Players)![/B] 6[IMG]http://www.leggopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif[/IMG] [B](/?page=%2FB%5D_6%5BIMG%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.leggopoker.com%2Fhh%2Fimages%2Fclub.gif%5B%2FIMG%5D_%5BB){kind=link}
Yoda checks, CO bets $4, Yoda calls $4
River: ($17.11) T
4 8 6/B] 9[IMG]http://www.leggopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif[/IMG] [B (2 Players)![/B] 9[IMG]http://www.leggopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif[/IMG] [B](/?page=%2FB%5D_9%5BIMG%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.leggopoker.com%2Fhh%2Fimages%2Fdiamond.gif%5B%2FIMG%5D_%5BB){kind=link}
Yoda bets $10.50, CO calls $10.50
Results: $38.11 Pot ($1.86 Rake)
Yoda showed 9
9 and LOST (-$18.02 NET)CO showed 7
7 and WON $36.25 (+$18.23 NET)
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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
CO: $37.50
BTN: $61.75
SB: $25.30
Yoda (BB): $71.97
UTG: $58.64
UTG+1: $76.29
MP1: $80.14
MP2: $33.28
Pre-Flop: Q
UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, BTN raises to $1.75, SB folds, Yoda calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50
Flop: ($5.75) 5
Yoda checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $3.50, Yoda calls $3.50, UTG calls $3.50
Turn: ($16.25) 5
Yoda checks, UTG checks, BTN checks
River: ($16.25) 5
Yoda bets $8.75, UTG raises to $17.50, BTN folds, Yoda raises to $35, UTG raises to $53.34 and is All-In, Yoda calls $18.34
Results: $122.93 Pot ($2 Rake)
Yoda showed Q
UTG showed J
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
MP2: $49.45
CO: $26.19
BTN: $50.39
SB: $25.48
BB: $87.14
Yoda (UTG): $89.61
UTG+1: $64.70
UTG+2: $29.64
MP1: $52.52
Yoda posts $0.25
Yoda posts $0.10
Pre-Flop: T
Yoda raises to $1.47, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.37, 4 folds
Flop: ($3.54) Q
Yoda checks, MP2 bets $1.50, Yoda calls $1.50
Turn: ($6.54) Q
Yoda checks, MP2 bets $4, Yoda calls $4
River: ($14.54) Q
Yoda bets $7.50, MP2 raises to $20, Yoda raises to $59.50, MP2 calls $22.53 and is All-In
Results: $99.60 Pot ($1.90 Rake)
MP2 showed Q
Yoda showed T
Sorry just reread, QQ hand I go broke too.. The third one is spew imo...
its agruable and im being quite aggressive....but i am ahead of 4 other full houses and 2 straights...plus some bluffs and aj ak and any other trip aces....
BBV so I won't comment on hands unless requested
always with yoda, it is....
Without reads and stats its hard to say.... In general the first one I would try to get to river for a lot cheaper than he did once villian flats our cbet (villian dependant obv) .... Second one is a no brainer - we are going broke.
Yes third one is a spew imo.
But this is not a strat thread, so I won't go into the thought process.
On the river you are left with a bluff catcher. If you want a cheap showdown bet $6-7 and if you get raised you fold. Check calling any similar sized bet is possible as well and induces bluffs from worse hands. I would not be surprised at all if the bottom straight checks it down at NL25 unless you have a player specific read that I don't know about. I lean more towards check calling this river.
villain is drawing turn to 10 outs you don't want to get to river cheaply....he hits basically the nuts and doesn't raise .....
but you must.....
Everyone is getting stacked in this spot. I prefer donking out on the turn for about half of the pot to try and get raised and get it all in at that point. You are fairly deep and you want to give yourself two streets of opportunity to make the pot big/get the stacks in the middle. If I don't get raised then I have still built a larger pot to shove into on the river. This pertains to all the times you don't get uber coolered and are playing vs KJ AJ JT J9 etc.
bottom straight is 57.......:o
I play a wide range in NLH cash games depending on table dynamic. I will raise as weak as 34sooted UTG (well I prefer if it's sooted:))but I fold ATo 100% of the time UTG 9 handed. IMO playing this hand in this position at any table is a huge leak. Same for AJo at most tables. They just aren't NLH cash game hands and will cost you much monies long term. I hardly ever view NLH cash games as preflop games but in the case of these 2 specific hands save them for LP isolation against the right players or just muck them altogether if you are less experienced.
Everyone busts if they see this hand to the river...standard spot.
im not against this but i think it gets to many folds from hands that might hit a piece on the river....i can induce a bluff from other hands and get a call on a river from weaker.....opp having a hand he can call with is not so likely...if he does ...im likely taking his cash...im just giving mid pairs a chance to hit something and bluff catch is all....but im not against leading turn fully....
agreed.....i played it cause i accidentally posted the a dead blind (prob not the name.....anyways i just went with it...i agree
however we disagree maybe about ATs....cause im raising everytime.......
no, it's any 7...there's 4 to a straight on board by the river
this is a thinner value bet but i fell im getting called by smaller sets, over pairs...two pair and top pair.....i can't make my play on this river based on my opp having a seven.....or qj.....opponent would like have raised on over set earlier......much i am ahead of that will call her me thinks.......
true true...more coffee yoda needs.....
but that really leaves 77 and only 77 to get a 7 in his range....theres too much im ahead of that will call i think.....a 7 calling the flop bet is...meh
A. Fold Pre from utg with ATo. (Now that you opened, you have to assume people put you on a decent range ATo is at the bottom (or not even in) of that range - so they will give you more credit for a cbet than if you opened from CO)
B. I like the check as this is a sopping wet board, and you have a backdoor flush draw and backdoor straight draw. You might also be ahead. If he double barrels, I would look to fold unless we improve.
C. Same thing on the turn. I like the line you took. We hit our two pair and the check call keeps the pot small. imo raising does nothing for you here but bloat the pot for his draws to raise you off the pot.
D. River - Well the river is awkward. once we get this far I likely would never fold, but I would feel like shoving over his raise is bad too. Dont think you will get many at this level putting in $50-$60 on the river without the absolute nut. Calling might be missing a bit of value from AKdd and the like, but I don't think they call a shove everytime either.
Another thing to note is his bet sizing. No where in the hand does he slow down. In fact, on each street, he has continued to bet a bigger % of the pot each time. This is a HUGE sign of strength at the micros.
Keep in mind that I am currently learning this level also, but I play 6max... Haven't played FR cash in a while....Keep these comin yoda. Me likes! We need to get more good strat posts - the "other forum" is so annoying getting past all the idiot posts to see the real quality answers.
he is surely strong and no one is laying down a full house here....there is only 1 ace left in the deck.....
imo A9 should be discounted based on previous actions. So how many combos of 99, TT are out there? A total of 4 combos I think. Not so sure we should be putting much weight in that few of combos.
previous actions were calling preflop and leading to my check....
also qq at......there are only three combos of aq
i think weve shown that more combos call than beat me no?
my bad I missed the QQ .... I dunno I am kinda half focused at work here. Let me think about it more and I will reply again tonight.
dude....work is getting in the way of your poker.....
I go broke here, any day of the week. Runner, runner boat is hard to fold in any situation. I'm probably betting on that turn when I hit my two pair (potish bet) as well. At 0.25/0.50, I'm pushing on that turn card.
harder to argue...but i feel we will be lost on too many river cards......and this is where being out of position gets tricky. my thought if i bet turn is that i fold or freeze all the hands that will mistakenly value bet/semibluff (gutshots/pairs) and get called or raised by everything that beats me. when he calls almost all rivers make for a tough decision.....
i would consider a turn bet for sure though...