All In Question
How often in a regular game do you go all in? And at what point (pre-flop, flop, turn, river) would you be willing to go all in?
If you were dealt pocket A's on the button, bandit is middle position and raise's 3xBB, you re-raise, bandit goes all in, would you call? Let say you both have the same amount of money.
If you were dealt pocket A's on the button, bandit is middle position and raise's 3xBB, you re-raise, bandit goes all in, would you call? Let say you both have the same amount of money.
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but don't forget to post the BB story when his 66 cracks your Aces.
I spent a few hours yesterday watching a guy who was playing on 12 tables. On most of the tables he was above the allowable maximum for the table so he was making money. I noticed he didn't go all in very often, but when he did it was at the river and 9 times outta 10 he won the hand or split the pot. If another player went all in pre-flop, flop, turn he folded so I don't know what he was holding. Again, if someone went all in on the River and he called, 9 times outta 10 he won the hand.
What does "jam aces preflop" mean?
GET OVER IT.
If you have AA and someone wants to call your all-in, or if they go all-in in front of you, the first words out of your mouth should be "thank you" as you are the favourite EVERY TIME. What happens after that is up to random chance. The law of averages guarantees that, over the long haul, you will profit from that situation. So remember this axiom, the better the player, the worse the "luck".
Prophet :2h :2s
If I had A-k I would have hit a str8 twice.
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Another Historic Ignorant Post.................:)
While you would like to see a flop with small pairs and have your opponent hold aces(the point of playing these is to hit a set 20% of the time, fold when miss take all of his chips when you hit) you should only be doing so when it is made cheap to do so or you will lose money over time.
Aces going all in against any pair is an 81% fav.
I'm just wondering because if I have less money then the bandit, am I an easier, less threatening target?? With him figuring if he goes all in and loses he'll still have some money left over?
With less $ on the table you are an easier target for sure. People will call you less with middling hands due to the lack of implied odds, and will be more likely to reraise/shove on you with bigger hands.
If you're playing .1/.25 with $10 each time, you're best to play .05/.1 with a full stack.
Realistically, the best way to avoid getting busted every time is to play 2 tables of .02/.05
You're playing way over your limits. You should be able to withstand getting stacked 3 or 4 times and not worry about your BR.
Always buy in for the max. When you have the nuts you want to make the most possible.
If you lose a few hands, top up IMMEDIATELY!
As much as I love playing cash games I tend to stay clear from them on line and just play tournaments.
You would have to speak to Wetts or ryanghall about the larger buy ins as they play in the higher end of the buy in universe.
The smaller ones have people who will call with any 2 cards on the drop of a hat. Just hitting 1 or 2 flops will give you a more reasonable stack to work with at the start of a tourney. This is in their minds. The runners who are playing the .25 to $5 buy ins anyways. I guess they figure it's only a buckor 2 what the hell.
I like playing in the 2 to 12K GTD games with the Rebuy and add on. I manage to get thru the 1st hour with Late registration and re buy period without re buying if I get a couple of really dumbass donkey's who love giving me chippies. 1 in particular finally gave up after about 15 rebuys and I had found myself with almost 20k in chips before the 4th level.
I cashed 17.00 finishing 27th out of 7000 runners.
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Another Historic Ignorant Post.....................
Not for awhile, I spent my bankroll and am on haitus attending to more important matters. Tell everyone I wish them a merry Christmas. I enjoyed the games I've played this year, and will hopefully join in some more at some point next year.
Here is a different opinion to the ones you are reading thus far:
The first and most important advantage is that your life is made a great deal easier. Short stacked poker is a much simpler game than deep stacked poker because your decisions are limited to only two or three streets of betting. You never have to face that large bet on the river with a decent hand, as you will already be all in. You also limit the sort of hands your opponent should be playing, as hands like suited connectors and small pairs are very weak against short stacks due to the lack of implied odds. If you believe that the players in the game are better than you it is often worth buying in short just to observe the game for a while - at least you know you will not be facing any hard choices early on.
Buying in short also disguise your ability to an extent, as many players believe buying in short is usually a sign of weakness, and or bad bankroll management, and that anyone doing it will often be very poor. This can lead you to get excess action not only when playing short, but also if you run up a stack, as the players wrong belief that you are weak for buying in short will continue to play on their minds. This can be especially true live, where players ego and attention are much more focused on small details.
Playing a short stack live also has another major advantage - you will hardly ever be asked to back players if they habitually see you playing a short stack. If players consistently see you playing short, you look like your just another struggling player (despite the fact that playing short can be just as profitable as playing deep), and this can lead to people not seeing you as a soft target for loans etc.
Buying in short can be a great way to scout out a game, make your life easy, and keep a low profile.
I know it won't be popular. But that is typical for my opinions.
Prophet :2h :2s
5 guys all in you have all of them covered. The last guy to say he is all in is only behind you by 2000 chips. 6 players left in the tournament. 5 million first place 3 million 2nd place. How many of you out there are making this call?
If you don't like that senerio, push it back to the bubble for the money in a big event.
If you don't like that one you are playing a 5.00 double or nothing on stars
Prophet :2h :2s
As for playing different stack sizes, that's completely up to you. I've made a living playing 60-75BB buy-ins for many of the reasons Prophet stated:
- Regs will dub you a fish and stack off light to you
- You can play at higher levels on a smaller bankroll
- You can increase your rakeback because you're playing a higher level
- Decisions are easier on later streets, though you still have 3 streets of play
- You can maximize fold equity, because your opponents will assume you're easily pot-committed and decide not to clash with you
and a few other reasons.
As for the AA preflop folding scenarios, these generally only exist in satellites on or near the bubble in the ways Prophet outlined, but they are very, very rare. Usually not worth discussing, imo.
AA pre-flop, I'm always all-in, 95% of the time with KK as well. Personally, I prefer to be heads-up with AA/KK and milk the pot but if they push pre-flop, I'm not going anywhere. The key is to make sure you raise enough pre-flop to not give the other player proper odds to call. If they have a small pair and you raise less than 1/10th of your stack (assuming they have you covered), then they have proper odds to call you. This is really table dependant and probably a lot different live than on the internet. If I raise to $50 in a 2/5 game online, I am lucky to get a single caller. At some clubs, I may be faced with 4 -5 callers.
Usually I will get all my chips in the middle on the flop/turn/river, etc., with the nuts or close to the nuts (which is pretty obvious). Especially on a draw heavy board (i.e. you have straight and a flop might come on the turn/river, etc.). Also, I will often push all my chips in the middle when I have a decent hand, and I sense weakness in my opponents (they are on draws). If they want to draw to a better hand, it will cost them all their chips. Also, sometimes I will push with a good draw (semi-bluff) and I am happy to take the hand down right now or I have outs if the other player calls. Its really table dependant and how well you know your opponents.
Personally, I am not a fan of playing a short stack. If I double up, I want to maximize my gains. If my stack goes below 80BB, I will usually top it up. Again, it really depends on the other player's stack sizes and the action at the table. If I lose my stack, I just reload. I know a couple guys that play a short stack very well and start off really aggressively and will try to double their stack and then they tighten up their game. If they go bust, they just reload again.
As mentioned, if you get your chips in the middle 80/20 and the other player hits their 20%, such is life. Better to buy back in with a full stack and hope they call you again when you are 80/20.
The irony of cash poker is you don't make money with AA/KK/AKs, etc., its the garbage hands that catch the other player off guard that win the big pots.
Really disagree with this.
Every cash game pro I know has AA and KK as their top two most profitable hands over a large sample online.
Rag hands do win big pots, but they lose tonnes and tonnes of small ones if you don't play them right and maximize fold equity.
could be selective memory
AA is better than an 80% favourite against any other pocket pair, all-in pre-flop. If you don't want to get it all in against a smaller pair,* then you hate money.
* - ignoring that very rare case when its a satellite with all equal prizes and you can fold your way to a win without any risk, yada yada yada.
The trouble with these hands in cash games is that if you can't get at least 1/3 of your stack into the middle preflop (ie - set up a pot-sized cBet shove on pretty much any flop), you generally have to go into way ahead, way behind mode.
This means check-calling more often than cBetting and building a big pot, understanding the flop texture, adjusting depending on whether or not it's a simple raised pot preflop vs a 3bet pot, and folding if you're probably beat.
AA should always be your biggest money winner in the long run in cash games, if played properly.
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Ok a cash game you sit in at the cash table you bought in for the max. 200.00. 1st hand 5 of he 9 players are all-in on your big blind 3 of them have you covered. You have AA and will be the 6th person in the pot.
Are you calling? I will even let you choose the hands to go against provided one hand is AK and any other pocket pair
Prophet :2h :2s
Ps buy in matters.
50.00 you call all day long.
100.00 calling
200.00 thinking about it
500.00 ....sweating
1000.00 you say why did I sit in this game
Later on I tried playing $0.10/360 player tournaments. After playing 10 tournaments I finished 7 times in mid to lower 100 place, once 97th, once 69th and my last one I finished in 29th place, which paid $0.20. I noticed in the tournaments alot of tilting at the beginning but once the field is down to half the game calms down and people play alot more seriously.
ok, I will take 810 suited. Obvious call but you know what's coming....
Its hard to say whether you are ahead or not. Strength typically represents a decent hand. Do you want to get all your chips in the middle with one pair? it could be a semi-bluff (he had the 2 or 6)? This is the reason a pre-flop raise is usually recommended so hands like 34, 25, 45 don't come in cheap (especially in the blinds) and crack your kings.
Another option, depending on his raise and the stack sizes, is to make a decent re-raise to see where your hand really is. If he comes over the top, this is likely a good indication that you are way behind. It also helps to be in position with this move if he just calls, so you get to see what he does on the turn. If you just call with the overpair all the way down to the river, it may cost you a lot more chips than if you re-raised on the flop. Also, he may fold and you take the hand down on the flop.
I often will slowplay the 'top ten hands' but I have the discipline to get away from these hands on a scary board or if the betting dictates that I am behind in the hand. Sometimes you fold when you are ahead, but you can't always get it right. Again it comes down to knowing your opponents which is a lot easier live than online IMO.