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  • Congrats Shannon!!

    It's a shame that there's no live internet updates. Just curious, did you find that play tightened up a whole lot as you approached the final ten? (I'd imagine it'd almost play like a satellite.

    Rob.
  • To all those that have already played this week. To follow up on Zithal's question. How did you find the overall level of play? Was is super loose during the re-buy period, or did people still play tight? How about after the add-on, how were people playing? Loose-passive.....Tight.....Loose-aggressive...any maniacs....e.t.c? I'm playing tomorrow and wanted an idea of what to expect.

    And oh yeah, WAY TO GO STPBOY!!! Awesome job! Hope to see you on sunday.
  • NLHE $215 buy in. Unlimited $100 Re-buys for 500 chips within the first 90 minutes. $200 Add-on for 2000 chips at 90 minute mark. Starting chips 1000, blinds 10/20 (30 minute level).

    I'll try to answer a few questions about maniacal play and level of tightness in regards to re-buy period and afterwards.

    First hand. I'm UTG with rags, fold. Wild player who has already stated that he wants the re-buy table positioned close to him calls 20. Player to his left raises to 60. Conservative looking Player to his left calls. Next guy calls and Late position player who eventually string bets several times throughout the night also calls. Wild player calls. Pot is eventually won by the raiser when he hits a gutshot straight on the turn with his Q10 suited. I take note of the fact that he raised with that hand in EP and that the string better called him the whole way down when there was a 4 card straight on the board.

    Four players re-buy immediately.

    Second hand. Wild player calls 20, Early position Raiser (EPR) raises to 60. Conservative looking player who seems to have a reputation at the casino as a solid player raises to 120. Two players call the 120 plus the WP and EPR. I look down in the BB and see AhKh. Hold crap, what have I gotten myself into? I have a few options here raise and hopefully everyone will fold (although that doesn't seem likely considering 1st hand) or call and see the flop. Folding this hand was not an option to me. I call.
    Flop Q 4 4 (no hearts). EPR bets out 120, two players call. I fold. Turn 8. River A. Showdown with Conservative looking player and string better. CLP shows 44 for quads, String better shows 83 in the hole. Could I have gotten rid of CLP with a big raise, who knows? Probably.

    I'm down to 870 and am the last person to re-buy at my table, I do it after the next orbit ends. Up to 1370. The wild play continues. String better and Wild Player have re-bought twice now, and My buddy (JC) at the table, has rebought once when his trips got busted by a flush.

    Chips 1310 Blinds 20/40

    I'm in the bb with Queens. 3 players directly to my right call. I raise to 200, they all fold. A guy two to my right I recognize from the Venom_no_limit club nods in approving fashion of my "steal".

    Chips 1410 Blinds 30/60

    I havent played any hands at all in the re-buy period. I didnt want to go in with non-premium hands because WP and Stringy have now re-bought 5 times each. I didn't want to have to re-buy again. Im in MP and raise to 120 with AJ suited, everyone folds. Next hand I get I raise to 120 again with AQ, everyone folds and the guy to my immediate right (tall guy) proclaims "oh, you're going to start playing now are you?". I like that image.

    Very next hand I get A10 suited. I call. Flop comes 9 4 3 rainbow. I bet and only WP calls me. Turn 9. I check and he bets 200, I re-raise to 500. He says, "you got it eh". He folds.

    Three hands later I get QJ in LP. Five callers including the blinds, everyone limps. Flop Q 8 3 rainbow. Checked to me and I bet 120, CLP calls everyone else folds. Turn 6. Check, I bet 120. River J. Check, I bet 200 and he calls. He doesn't show his loosing hand. I found this hand odd from a player that has a "solid" reputation.

    I finish the first round with 2390, 4390 with the addon. Everyone adds on. 50 players remain after the re-buy/add-on lock out.

    My buddy JC has about 3000 in chips and is struggling a bit, we talk it over at Wendy's during the 30 minute break. We discuss who we think are the weak links at our table and who we can get money out of...WP, Stringy and another guy with an Italia shirt on.

    Chips 4390 Blinds 50/100. My buddy JC makes it 500 in EP. Tall guy to my right re-raises to 1200. I look down and see QQ in the SB. I think about it and just call, hoping I hit the flop. JC calls the 1200 too. Flop Q 10 9. I check. JC checks and Tall guy plays with his chips and says those two magic words I wanted to hear "i'm all in". I call. JC folds. I show QQ and he almost falls over in disgust, he shows a set of tens. I shake his hand and send him home. JC had pocket 8's and would have made a straight on the river with the J that came, thanks for folding.

    I don't see any hands for awhile now and go back to super-rock mode.

    Chips 8500 Blinds 250/500

    Im UTG+1 with A9, UTG calls and I raise to 1000. Everyone folds except new player to my right, young guy with some style he calls. Flop comes 10 4 3 rainbow. He bets 500. I call. Turn 6. He bets 500 and I raise to 2500. He thinks about it and folds. "nice bet" he says.

    Chips 10K Blinds 500/1000 21 players remain.

    UTG bets 2500, I have no read on this guy at all and have not played a hand against him but I'm watching him the whole time as he is sitting directly across from me. I look down to see two red Aces. I go all in. He has about 4000 more chips in front of him and I can see that he hated that I did this to him. I stand up and so does he. The gallery of about 50 people watching our table is loving it. I say to him "did you pot commit yourself?", he says "pretty much". He says "i have a made hand", to which I reply "thats ok, I've got the goods". The dealer puts my opponent on the clock, he asks how much time he has left....I know it's not right but I wasnt sure if I wanted him to call or not, fear of having aces cracked to many times...what's that called crackedaceaphobia? Sure.

    He calls and flips over 77. Flop K Q 8. Turn 6. River J. I shake his hand, although I know he's disgusted with the result.

    21K in chips Blinds 600/1200 18 players remain.

    Within 10 minutes we are down to 14 players and you can feel people starting to get desparate. Any semi-premuim hand is being raised preflop. Unforunately my best hand I see in the last 20 minutes is A4 off, which I raise and get re-raised by JC. I fold and he says "AK". I end up loosing a tonne of chips when my cards go extremely cold and people are stealing my blinds. I end up 9th with 11,400. 8th has 11,700 and my buddy JC finished with 18K.

    Him and I took 4% of eachother so things are looking good. At the end of the day I was a little dissapointed with my dwindled chip stack but really nothing I could have done, I'm not making a stand with 38 off. Blinds start on Sunday at 100/200 so I have plenty of chips to work with.

    Oh yeah, and on my way home I was thinking about poker poker poker and re-living hands when a Huge Deer came out of nowhere to smoke the side of my car...that was scary.

    Other notes...they will apparantly be having cameras for the final day, not TSN or anything but thier own cameras. Nerbonne the winner of the last event showed up 30 seconds late on his day and was not allowed in, don't be late! Good luck.

    stp
  • Zithal wrote:
    Congrats Shannon!!

    It's a shame that there's no live internet updates. Just curious, did you find that play tightened up a whole lot as you approached the final ten? (I'd imagine it'd almost play like a satellite.

    Rob.

    Thanks Rob. Actually I found that someone raised almost every hand to steal the blinds...and they were hand for hand for the final 14 players. There were very few flops seen.

    stp
  • Awesome post stpboy. Sounds like you played some great poker. Definitely an interesting field of players. So do feel a tight table image worked better for you in later stages of the tourney. Or would loosening up in the first 30 minutes of the tourney to steal some smaller pots be advised? In other words, did the tables remain the same for long enough periods that a tight table image was beneficial, or were they broken up too quickly? What was the average time before tables were broken down?
  • I was also there watching STP master the tourney last night.
    Him and my main man both started on the "show" table #1. They also both ended up there and are good to go with ComaU on Sunday..
    I did not get registered for this tourney so I'll just have to go wOOt on my friends on Sunday.

    Few things I can add as of end of day 3..
    Day 2, two players break on same hand, and only 9 advance to Sunday, making it a 49 player shootout as of now.
    Also, new chip leader after 3 days is the player everyone is always confusing with our forum hero, All_Aces. Devon who is always in the 20-40 game is the new chip leader.
  • AcesFull wrote:
    Awesome post stpboy. Sounds like you played some great poker. Definitely an interesting field of players. So do feel a tight table image worked better for you in later stages of the tourney. Or would loosening up in the first 30 minutes of the tourney to steal some smaller pots be advised? In other words, did the tables remain the same for long enough periods that a tight table image was beneficial, or were they broken up too quickly? What was the average time before tables were broken down?


    I suppose you're already finished but for what it's worth I think a tight table image early on will benefit you in the end and throughout. I saw a guy call all in preflop with 33, A8, 77, k10, AJ....hands that I would most likely fold...depending on the situation of course. You can likely loosen up after the re-buy and Add on stages, everyone tightened up then. Wait untill the blinds are worth it to start making moves, why bother trying to pick up 4 bb's in the early rounds when its 10/20. My table #1 was never broken up, it took atleast 3 hours before the first one was broken. Hope this helps anyone that is playing today (saturday) and hope to see and meet AcesFull on Sunday.

    stp
  • Good Post STP.

    I too was playing last night and finished 19th, and very disapointed!

    Everything was going very well with 25 players left, 3 tables and I make my only bone head move of the day.Have 8 to 10 K in chips(not really sure)

    Blinds 300/600, look down a KJs one from the button and make it 900. All fold but the SB calls.

    Flop is K, rag rag. SB checks and after thinking for a moment, I say all in, SB calls with out thinking. Dam! I should have made it just 1000 in hind site. If he called I should have shut down or been more carefull.

    I was left with 175 chips at the break and UTG after the break. Managed to make the 175 into 6000 thanks to some good cards and stupid play by another player, but eventually it caught up with me at 19 left when I went all in with Q :heart: 9 :heart: with the flop showing 10 :diamond: ,10 :heart: ,J :diamond: and was called (my last 1875) by someone who had the J :spade:. He made the tight and I went home.

    I would say hats off to the Brantford casino for an exellent job.

    As to the level of play, this is my 5th B&M tounament an although during the rebuy period things were really loose, after the break things really tightened up. I even had to fold a pair of Queens in the small blind after someone raised and the over all chip leader reraised to 3K, having only 4200 in chips at the time I did not want to go home so early. Best hand I started with all night and I had to fold it.

    Good luck to all made the final day.

    Off to Rama on Monday for the Fall Classic.
  • Dead Money wrote:
    Blinds 300/600, look down a KJs one from the button and make it 900. All fold but the SB calls.

    Flop is K, rag rag. SB checks and after thinking for a moment, I say all in, SB calls with out thinking. Dam! I should have made it just 1000 in hind site. If he called I should have shut down or been more carefull.

    Good luck to all made the final day.

    Off to Rama on Monday for the Fall Classic.

    Tough one DM. What was it that the SB had? It sucks when one mistake that you make costs you the whole tournament.

    Thanks for the well wishes and good luck at Rama.

    stp
  • Sorry, the SB had AK
  • Is the tourney being played today (saturday)? My friend and I were planning on going to play some limit there, what time does the tourney end tonight (if it is being played tonight)?

    Thanks
  • ComaU wrote:
    I started at the same table. I was the guy in the leafs hat and an Adidas hooded sweat shirt. Anyone who played will remember me as I was one of the two people who played with there hood up for most of the tourney.

    I called up Brantford and they said some young guy named Jeremy won it at around 11:45pm. Was wondering if that was you.

    Congrats if so,

    -Mr.
  • Hmmmm ...

    After ComaU posted his description, I remembered back to him playing at my table ... I'm pretty sure his name was Jeremy (or something starting with a J).

    <fingers crossed!!>

    macbb :canada:
  • of course, if it *was* him, I doubt we'll here from him until the partying dies down. :)

    macbb :canada:

    P.S. And, with the way he sits at the table, we'll have to come up with a nickname for him, because the "unabomber" is taken :) How about "unabomber eh"? :)
  • I just got off the phone with BCC and my friend Jeff Campbell won the tournament, woot woot!!! ComaU finished in 6th I believe, they could only give me his cheque amount. Awesome finish guys and woohoo for JC and my 4% of him!!

    I dropped in 33rd on a semi bluff. EP calling station, the BB and me the SB are in. Flop comes all clubs, I check, BB checks and EP bets 5K. I think it's a huge overbet, I raise all in another 10K with the A of clubs in my hand. He eventually calls with 54 of clubs and I dont hit another. It was really dissapointing because I had battled the first 3 hours with my best two starting hands being 22 and AK, nothing other then that. I double up with AK in the BB when it was folded to big stack in the SB who raised with K7 and then called my all in. I was up to 13,200 after 3 hours.

    Finally started getting cards and knocked a guy out with KsJs vs. his AK. He was a very short stack but I was eventually up to 23K, average was about 30K. I lost another 7K when my AK raise had two callers and the flop didnt hit me. After that I made my move and lost. I know I could have been much closer to the money then this which makes it VERY dissapointing but hey, I'll get em next time.

    Awesome job JC and ComaU!!!!!

    stp
  • I would have posted earlier for my Saturday showing, but I'm just now getting over busting out in 39th on Saturday. Not a bad beat story.....just bad play on my part. I was up to 9K after the first hour....and then gave it all back on an A5 spade flush draw that didn't materialize. :banghead: Busted out shortly after with my all-in with AK from LP. BB called with Q6h and hit a Q on the flop. I can't complain about anything other than my poor play....so I won't complain at all. Overall, a professional, well run tournament with a handsome prize pool. Congrats to JC, ComaU, stpboy and the rest of the forum members for representing so well. This was my second Brantford tourney, but definitely not my last.
  • Did Jeff Campbell play in the tournament in the summer? I thought I remembered that name from the top ten list on the walls.

    -Mr.
  • Howdy all.
    I was at Brantford last night cheering on my best buddy. It was a good night.

    A 30 minute break came as the 11th man got knocked out.
    I grabbed Jeremy (ComaU) and Jeff and we headed across the street to Wendys for a quick bite and maybe a little strategizing. We talked about the possibility of the two of them getting heads up and chopping, which was illegal. This didnt look like a good possibility, but it sure woulda been fun.
    When we got back up to the tournament area, they had a huge camera set up, and they also had the board fiilled with starting chip counts for the top 10, already -in-the-money finishers.

    One guy had a nice 2-1 lead on the table, and in 2nd place to start was my man Jeff Campbell. Jeremy started in 10th place with what was actually a few hundred units more than the 30K in blinds that would come around each time, no antes ever came into play.
    The very first hand the chip leader made a minimum raise to 40K raise in UTG+2.
    Player right behind him moves allin for another 41K i believe, all fold back to the leader, who thought a good while and called. Leader turns up his K10c, and to noones surprise allin player turns up AA. There were 2 stacks (jeremy, and the last remaining lady) that were basically 30K and would need quick help to hang in.
    Flop brought a King, and when the turn brought another, we were down to 9 players.

    Jeremy fought tough and got some nice help with KK and JJ winning back to back pots, allowing hiom to survive a few more rounds and outlast some of the others.
    6th place was a great finish for what ComaU had to work with, great tournament for a great player. I heard plenty of observers commenting on how great of a chance they all knew he had.
    When it got down to 3 handed the starting chip leader now had what Id say was a commanding lead, with Jeff clearly in 2nd. This chip leader all final table was clearly playing for a win. 3 handed the prizes were 18K+ for third, just under 25K for 2nd and a full $50,575 for first.
    Leader was picking up a lot of pots whether from raising preflop or limping in position and betting out flops after being checked to.
    Then the biggie came up. Jeff is on button, and limps in for 32K., SB mucks and the leader in the Big Blind decides to take his option. he says lets go 50K more, and after some debate Jeff calls the raise with position.
    The flop comes down K22, and I am watching Jeff keep his head down, he wouldnt look at the flop. The other player after hearing the announcer claim the pot has 180K in it announces allin, which easily covers Jeffs chips.
    Standing on the rail just to the side of Jeff i watched him look up and the board and his eyes lit up. He clearly had a king, and it didnt take him more than 1 second after that to make the call and turn over his K7spades. The leader tosses up 10-10 and thankfully misses his 2 outer.
    Jeff now had a great lead after doubling up, in fact Id say the other two were now in a dead head for 2nd and 3rd. Fortunately the past leader didnt slow down now and was eliminated shortly after.
    Heads up was back and forth before Jeff started losing some chips.
    On the final hand the opponent made a raise preflop, as he had the past 4 hands or so and Jeff moved allin.
    I guess the other guy wanted it to end cause he made what Jeremy and I considered a pretty horrific call for all the chips with 33.
    When the flop brought a pair Jeff was now drawing to 3 aces, 3 kings, 3, queens that would put 2 pairs on the board, and hed pick up 3 more pair outs on the turn to possibly pair that one up on the river as well.
    When the dealer slowly flipped over the river King Jeff leaped like Ive never seen and I know i was screaming for him as im sure a few others there were too. He seemed to have at least 80% of the crowd rooting for him so most were pleased.
    A few hi fives all around and a few quick beers with the all the pictures taken of him kept us around for at least an hour settling up with all the prizes and press stuff the casino did.
    I am absolutely amazed at how well Brantford ran this tournament, maybe it is because its such a rare thing that they wanted to make sure it was truly special.
    The only problem I found was that they need to get some up to date rules for these tournaments they run. There were a few situations where the floor made no decision on a ruling that IMO affected everything. Noone seemed to make a fuss about it other than me so maybe I was out of line, but when player 11 busted out of the tournament, a major infraction and ruling was missed by the floor.
    Ive played plenty with this 11th place finisher and feel bad for him, but I still dont understand how he got up and left without a fuss. I know him to be a very solid player who I thought knew the game as well as I do, but whether he didnt know the rule to complain or was just tired and pissed off and wanted to get home I dont know.
    The benfactor of that hand was actually the chip leader who ended up coming 3rd place. It is still my opinion that he should not have been awarded that pot and the 11th place finishers chips.

    Either way Jeff is the champ and we goin SIZZLA!
    Way to go buddy! Jer and stpboy, great showings as well, next time im playing with yous.
  • What was the missed infraction/ruling on the 11th place finish?
  • Jeff did not play the tournament in the summer btw.
    I also wanted to mention that, unlike many of the kids who have recently picked up poker, at 22yrs old Jeff is far from a newbie.
    Jeff, myself and 2 other buddies all started playing holdem one night after we came home from the theatre after watching the movie Rounders.
    My guess is that makes it about 8 yrs now that we have been playing the game.
    Of course we were recreational players to start, but it didnt take long for poker to become a very regular thing amongst our group of friends.
    For the past 2 yrs now or so, Jeff has gotten very serious about poker, playing basically fulltime online and getting in live games whenever possible.
    The past 6 months in particular he has been absolutely killing multitable online tournaments, and anyone who knew his play would have had him as one of the favourites yesterday.
    Jeffs win yesterday was no fluke.
    Now i need to scrounge up some money to head out with Jeff, and hopefully Jeremy as well, to some of the events around the country in the coming months.
  • Congrats to ComaU and to Jeff (does he ever post here?)!!

    oh, and to CanadaKev for the description, and the fact he knows the winner. :)

    So, when's the next tourney? :)

    macbb :canada:
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