Tough break for some forum members but definitely still a good showing. It is definitely one of those times where you want to have you %%% hold.
I guess next time I see some of you guys I have to start pulling in autographs....got a lot of future Sirwatts and Chorons in the making with these kind of numbers in 10K buy ins
Noticed a few familiar names still in the running to start day 3. I think former forumer FREEROLL was still alive but short stacked. GL to all that are left.
Yup, busto. I won't complain about being card dead because it's been an incredible experience.
The 5/5-10/25 cash games have been juicy with huge stacks, including winning a pot from "fishbird", the most annoying Fallsview player whom pkrfce9 previously complained about. When I win a pot, a sore loser sometimes berates me and this time, fishbird shouted as I was leaving the poker room, "Enjoy my money, you bird!"
Day 3 was stopped around 8 PM when there were 27 players left. I am rooting the most for two local players, Bosko Basaric (27th last year) and Glen Witner, both of whom I was discussing strategy with prior to the start of Day 3. There are a bunch of other Canadians left, including Gavin Smith, Marc Karam, Ryan Fisler (last remaining player from Waterloo) and Dashmir Zyli (I think I used to play with him in the free bar tour, & his seat also cost him just a $170 satellite).
I would like anyone’s input on how you would have played this hand.
WPT – NAPC
Blinds are 2000/4000 Ante 500
There is roughly 10 minutes left of this blind, then will increase to 3000/6000 with 500 ante. The play for the most part has been really tight. Generally, any decent raise takes the pot.
I have 102,000 in chips
9 handed.
I’m in seat 3
Button is on seat 4
Small blind seat 5
Big blind seat 6
Seat 7 folds
Seat 8 raises to 21,000 My read on seat 8 is highly aggressive. He has been raising with any King or any Ace
Seat 9 folds
Seat 1 folds
Seat 2 folds
Seat 3 (Me) pocket 88
I imagine that most forumers have probably read about this hand, but in order to get feedback I will post how I played it after I get some feedback.
Anybody care to post the list of the remaining players?....I can't check WPT at work. Any big names left other than Gavin?
Update:For a recap of Day 3 and a preview of Day 4, scroll down past the chip counts.
Day 4 begins tomorrow (Wednesday) at 12:00 noon ET, and Vivek "Flog" Rajkumar, who won the most recent WPT event at the Borgata in Atlantic City, leads the final 27 players as he strives to become the first player in history to win back-to-back WPT titles.
Here are the official seating assignments and chip counts:
TABLE 1
Seat 1 - Xuan-Tien Nguyen - 350,000
Seat 2 - Sam Greenwood - 611,000 Seat 3 - Marc Karam - 424,000
Seat 4 - Brian Hawkins - 676,000
Seat 5 - Matt Matros - 943,000
Seat 6 - Khaled Aljoma - 552,000
Seat 7 - Dashmir Zyli - 223,000
Seat 8 - Jason Potter - 497,000
Seat 9 - Pat Pezzin - 252,000
I would like anyone’s input on how you would have played this hand.
WPT – NAPC
Blinds are 2000/4000 Ante 500
There is roughly 10 minutes left of this blind, then will increase to 3000/6000 with 500 ante. The play for the most part has been really tight. Generally, any decent raise takes the pot.
I have 102,000 in chips
9 handed.
I’m in seat 3
Button is on seat 4
Small blind seat 5
Big blind seat 6
Seat 7 folds
Seat 8 raises to 21,000 My read on seat 8 is highly aggressive. He has been raising with any King or any Ace
Seat 9 folds
Seat 1 folds
Seat 2 folds
Seat 3 (Me) pocket 88
I imagine that most forumers have probably read about this hand, but in order to get feedback I will post how I played it after I get some feedback.
What are the other players stack size? Are they a named pro? Are there other named pros at your table?
With your stack size you have an M of less then 10 (9.7 actually) so you are looking to ship it in but you can pick your spots. With the blinds going up your M will drop to 7.
Problem with shipping is that if you get called you are either behind a pair of against two over. Also if you ship the pot will be 133500 and will only be 81K for them to call meaning they are getting a good price to call.
Kathy had me cover.
Kathy was not the raiser, kathy was in BB
The raiser, raiser with Ax/Kx from any postion
Did the raiser have you covered?
I still fold. I don't think the pot size you win when no one wakes up with a hand (the original raiser, button, or blinds) is enough to justify risking your stack for.
Maybe someone who plays more by the math can post an analysis. I play more by feel.
What are the other players stack size? Are they a named pro? Are there other named pros at your table?
With your stack size you have an M of less then 10 (9.7 actually) so you are looking to ship it in but you can pick your spots. With the blinds going up your M will drop to 7.
Problem with shipping is that if you get called you are either behind a pair of against two over. Also if you ship the pot will be 133500 and will only be 81K for them to call meaning they are getting a good price to call.
Button had about 90K, Small Blind 160K, BB (Kathy L) 310K, Orginal raiser 250K
Kathy was the only named pro that i knew
Not a good price for Ax/Kx. Only for a strong ace or medium-high pocket pair.
/g2
Enough for them call any 60/40 race when they are on the 40 end.(Especially if they have big chips). So if they are sitting there with J-10 or Q-J they may call thinking you have something like AK/AQ or under pair and decide to go for it.
I would lean towards folding in general because at best you are looking at a coin flip situation. It is highly unlikely that if they have a pair lower then 8's that they will call.
Did you transpose the 12k/21k? 5x raise seems rather large, is that normal? Calling definately not an option. Raising other than shoving not an option.
So how did it end up for you? How did you play it? I would have been traumatized in your spot but I'm sure I would be able to pick up some more information than you are giving us I probably would have reshoved but that really really depends on how aggressive the openner really is!
I decided to shove all in. My read on the Initial raiser was spot on. however i walked into the BB (Kathy L) holding pocket KK. The initial raiser folded and when Kathy and I tabled our cards he announced that he had folded A8
NAPC Tourney Director fucks up the ruling on a pretty trivial mistake....
Hand #43 - Sam Greenwood completes from the small blind for 16,000, and Gavin Smith checks his option in the big blind. The flop comes 1083, Greenwood bets 25,000, Smith raises to 70,000, and then ... craziness.
The dealer misunderstood Gavin's action as a call, and puts out the turn card -- the K. A floorperson is called over for a ruling, and the king will stay out on the board, but it won't be part of the hand. Greenwood has to decide whether or not to call Gavin's raise. Then the river card will be put out normally, and they will act as if it is the turn. When that round is done, the K will be reshuffled into the deck, and a new turn card will be placed on the board, and they will have their final round of betting. Effectively, the river card becomes the turn card, and the king is reshuffled so they can pull out a new river card. Confusing? Don't worry, because most of this didn't happen.
Greenwood calls the additional 45,000, and the river/turn card is the 3. Greenwood checks, Gavin Smith bets 128,000, and Greenwood folds. Gavin Smith takes the pot.
The TD should have shuffled the K back into the deck before re-dealing the turn. Come on, I thought everyone knew that
No, the TD followed the correct procedures and I would have made the same ruling. The same thing happened at Point Edward Casino and the supervisor on duty made the mistake of not making the river card the turn card, but after I informed her about the usual procedure and she researched it during her break, she agreed with me.
NAPC Tourney Director fucks up the ruling on a pretty trivial mistake....
The TD should have shuffled the K back into the deck before re-dealing the turn. Come on, I thought everyone knew that
/g2
With currently nine WPT finalists left, I recognize four of the six biggest stacks as Canadians, so
GO CANADA GO!
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I guess next time I see some of you guys I have to start pulling in autographs....got a lot of future Sirwatts and Chorons in the making with these kind of numbers in 10K buy ins
I'm heading down tomorrow night and leaving Thursday afternoon. I might rail for a bit...
The 5/5-10/25 cash games have been juicy with huge stacks, including winning a pot from "fishbird", the most annoying Fallsview player whom pkrfce9 previously complained about. When I win a pot, a sore loser sometimes berates me and this time, fishbird shouted as I was leaving the poker room, "Enjoy my money, you bird!"
Day 3 was stopped around 8 PM when there were 27 players left. I am rooting the most for two local players, Bosko Basaric (27th last year) and Glen Witner, both of whom I was discussing strategy with prior to the start of Day 3. There are a bunch of other Canadians left, including Gavin Smith, Marc Karam, Ryan Fisler (last remaining player from Waterloo) and Dashmir Zyli (I think I used to play with him in the free bar tour, & his seat also cost him just a $170 satellite).
your not referring to this main event?
2008 WSOP Main Event Payouts
If this doesn't belong here sorry.
I would like anyone’s input on how you would have played this hand.
WPT – NAPC
Blinds are 2000/4000 Ante 500
There is roughly 10 minutes left of this blind, then will increase to 3000/6000 with 500 ante. The play for the most part has been really tight. Generally, any decent raise takes the pot.
I have 102,000 in chips
9 handed.
I’m in seat 3
Button is on seat 4
Small blind seat 5
Big blind seat 6
Seat 7 folds
Seat 8 raises to 21,000 My read on seat 8 is highly aggressive. He has been raising with any King or any Ace
Seat 9 folds
Seat 1 folds
Seat 2 folds
Seat 3 (Me) pocket 88
I imagine that most forumers have probably read about this hand, but in order to get feedback I will post how I played it after I get some feedback.
Was this a standard raise from her? - or was it an extra large raise?
Has she been raising Kx/Ax from EP (like in this hand)? - or just in position?
It's 21k to call and you have 102k. That's a very awkward ratio. Too risky to push because most of the time you get called you are dominated.
Calling would be terrible because you would basically be set-mining.
I'm leaning towards a fold.
/g2
Update: For a recap of Day 3 and a preview of Day 4, scroll down past the chip counts.
Day 4 begins tomorrow (Wednesday) at 12:00 noon ET, and Vivek "Flog" Rajkumar, who won the most recent WPT event at the Borgata in Atlantic City, leads the final 27 players as he strives to become the first player in history to win back-to-back WPT titles.
Here are the official seating assignments and chip counts:
TABLE 1
Seat 1 - Xuan-Tien Nguyen - 350,000
Seat 2 - Sam Greenwood - 611,000
Seat 3 - Marc Karam - 424,000
Seat 4 - Brian Hawkins - 676,000
Seat 5 - Matt Matros - 943,000
Seat 6 - Khaled Aljoma - 552,000
Seat 7 - Dashmir Zyli - 223,000
Seat 8 - Jason Potter - 497,000
Seat 9 - Pat Pezzin - 252,000
TABLE 2
Seat 1 - Donald Carlton - 476,000
Seat 2 - Nick Alafogiannis - 784,000
Seat 3 - Mark Zajdner - 324,000
Seat 4 - Dominic Staniscia - 428,000
Seat 5 - Glen Witmer - 491,000
Seat 6 - James Trenholm - 745,000
Seat 7 - Greg Ostrander - 235,000
Seat 8 - Bosko Basaric - 399,000
Seat 9 - Vivek "Flog" Rajkumar - 1,080,000
TABLE 3
Seat 1 - Gavin Smith - 979,000
Seat 2 - Ryan Fisler - 392,000
Seat 3 - Joe Zappia - 187,000
Seat 4 - Spiro Mikrogianakis - 225,000
Seat 5 - Miami John Cernuto - 92,000
Seat 6 - Erik Seidel - 851,000
Seat 7 - Martin Raus - 405,000
Seat 8 - Kathy Liebert - 879,000
Seat 9 - Todd Sisley - 143,000
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I'm rooting for fellow Ottawa poker player Marc "myst" Karam.
/g2
Kathy had me cover.
Kathy was not the raiser, kathy was in BB
The raiser, raiser with Ax/Kx from any postion
What are the other players stack size? Are they a named pro? Are there other named pros at your table?
With your stack size you have an M of less then 10 (9.7 actually) so you are looking to ship it in but you can pick your spots. With the blinds going up your M will drop to 7.
Problem with shipping is that if you get called you are either behind a pair of against two over. Also if you ship the pot will be 133500 and will only be 81K for them to call meaning they are getting a good price to call.
I still fold. I don't think the pot size you win when no one wakes up with a hand (the original raiser, button, or blinds) is enough to justify risking your stack for.
Maybe someone who plays more by the math can post an analysis. I play more by feel.
/g2
/g2
Button had about 90K, Small Blind 160K, BB (Kathy L) 310K, Orginal raiser 250K
Kathy was the only named pro that i knew
Enough for them call any 60/40 race when they are on the 40 end.(Especially if they have big chips). So if they are sitting there with J-10 or Q-J they may call thinking you have something like AK/AQ or under pair and decide to go for it.
I would lean towards folding in general because at best you are looking at a coin flip situation. It is highly unlikely that if they have a pair lower then 8's that they will call.
I met Ryan in Monte Carlo when I went out to watch my brother play the EPT. He was a really nice guy and I hope he takes this one down.
crazykoby, tough break. Sucks when you make what is the right read on one player, then another player comes out of nowhere with a bigger hand.
He was a Riverroom regular when it was at its second location.
The TD should have shuffled the K back into the deck before re-dealing the turn. Come on, I thought everyone knew that
/g2
"Upon further review, ruling on the felt stands".
G2 is charged with shootin' his mouth off prematurely, the TD is correct.
Is it really that hard to reproduce the casity of one's nick? JPAjjammmAS. JPuhjammaz. jpajamas. See... only took 3 tries.
/g2
GO CANADA GO!