CNE Casino
How many people here are anxiously waiting for the CNE casino to open up on July 22? I know I am. I never receive my pass in the mail like some other people seem to get though. Anybody know why that is? Any news on if they'll be spreading the same games as last year?
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First day, once you get seated, go to the vip counter and get a free pass.
Is the rake really $10 now? Sheesh
I know you can go to the VIP counter but every year I hear how others had their passes mailed to them and I get jealous.
Thats what I thought....
You remember correctly.
It's like christmas in july.. sniffle..
No phone reservations, only in person. No tournaments or NLH.
Games still really wild and juicy?
- Electronic waiting list! The sign-up and waiting area is now outside the poker room beside the VIP application desk. You can hear your name being called while playing the other games.
- The 10/20 tables I saw are new and look good.
- When there were enough dealers available, all 22 tables were opened up, and became full at night.
I know for sure its $10 on 10/20 and it's at least $7.50 for $5/10. I wasnt on 5/10 for very long but I saw the dealer take more than $5 tons of times. Which is disgusting.
For the most part the dealers were ok. The first one I had you could tell was new, she rarely knew where the action was (people already checking and betting and shes oblivious) and she couldnt read hands very well. But not only that, the players at my table couldnt read hands either. Board was 93834 and guy flips over 98 for 2 pair and the guy with pocket aces (who did call the river) flips his cards over in disgust and gets all pissed (cause he thought he lost) and the dealer picks up his aces and mucks them, when "I" tell her Aces and 3's beat 8's and 9's and the 89 guy was having a fit cause I 'cost him the pot' and shoulda 'shut my mouth'. The guy opened his hand clearly on the table, I did nothing wrong.
I had to 'speak up' on numerous occasions to give the dealer a hand at what was going on and such, but I dont think any of them minded. I wasnt being a dick about it or anything.
Anyways for my first CNE experience it wasnt that bad. The rake is ludacris and the food/drinks are also way over priced. No free coffee or pop here. And its way too hot and humid and sticky out in the table games area.
I'll take the CNE Game with a high rake over no CNE game any day.
This rake increase is gigantic. It's hard to overstate how much this will effect your profitability in the game. Especially the 5/10.
Compare losing 20BB vs 30BB from the table each hour due to rake.
Most players making 1.5 BB/hour will instead be making 0.5 BB/hour.
It's hard to overstate how bad this rake increase is for players.
I was planning on going to the CNE, With news of this rake increase I've changed my mind and probably won't go.
I'm pretty sure that rake structure was like that for the past couple of years...I could be wrong though as I never really played there, only worked there for one summer
Edit: BF beat me to pointing that out - teaches me to read all the posts before responding.
Blondefish, are you dealing there? How big are the pots on average? Larger than your typical B&M, let alone online, I assume?
90% if not all pots are usually max rake.
that's not true, at least it shouldn't be, although several times my table caught dealers taking too much rake out of a pot. A pot has to be $150 to be max raked at $5/$10, no where near 90% of pots were that big, at least not at my tables
Try not breaking out the calculator at the table, it'll improve your table image.
nit.
huh? doesnt take a calculator to notice pots reaching over $150, and I wish I was using a calculator, it was always other people complaining about too much rake and getting money back!
At 10/20 I have to think yes. Most pots probably come close to hitting max rake (assuming this game is as loose as I'd guess). A 200 pot at 10/20 isn't that ridiculous.
If you ballpark avg rake to be ~$8, this probably is close to what I'd ballpark the rake (relative to bet size), in Brantford's 5-10 game ($4 avg rake in a 10% max $5 raked game). I'm pretty confident Brantford's 5-10 game is beatable, and I can only guess that the CNE's 10-20 game is likely looser than a 5-10 Brantford game.
CNE 5-10 I'm guessing falls somewhere between Brantford 2-5 (10% max $5) and Brantford's 5-10 in terms of rake (relative to bet size).
Brantford 2-5 probably has ~$4 avg rake (same as 5-10). In terms of bet size, it's about twice as bad as 5-10 (0.8BB vs 0.4BB).
CNE 5-10 is probably going to see avg rake maybe somewhere in the $6 range? Which would be 0.6BB.
I know, I know, this is all subjective assumptions...
I guess from a more basic perspective, if you're looking at small pots, 5% rake has to beat 10%, and if you look at the other end where you're hitting (higher) max raked pots, then you're looking at avg pot sizes > 10BB (that's BIG bets), so the rake difference is probably moot due to the ridiculous amount of dead money being thrown around. You probably only see the downside if you're hitting that middle ground of rake > $5 but not hitting max.
If you're content paying 10% $5 max rake in 2-5, you probably shouldn't care about paying $7.50 at the $5-10.