Ya those 5 people would have been twice as dead if there were guns involved.
Or if one of those 5 had been packing....
Oh wait just a second. That boy was the son of a Police Officer. So there were properly stored firearms at his house.... how is it possible that guns were not involved then????
Well, discounting the fact that I also admitted I would likely get rid of large "kill em only" knives, which I'm going to assume is what they meant by "Large Knife", yes... guns are still bad. Yes, he still had access to guns, and if he had gone that way it would have been much worse.
Am I saying that guns are the root of these crazy unfortunate attacks? No... but they aren't necessary to our society, and shouldn't be around. Do I think the vast majority of guns are used "properly"? Yes, most people that need to make themselves feel more manly through firearms use them correctly. But when someone does go off their rocker with one, it's bad... really bad.
I really hate that I've managed to make myself the demon of the board because I know that means you guys all can just discount my solid and correct points.
Well, discounting the fact that I also admitted I would likely get rid of large "kill em only" knives, which I'm going to assume is what they meant by "Large Knife", yes... guns are still bad. Yes, he still had access to guns, and if he had gone that way it would have been much worse.
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I really hate that I've managed to make myself the demon of the board because I know that means you guys all can just discount my solid and correct points.
Mark
As a former knife salesman at the fabulous House of Knives in Kitchener's Fairview Mall, I can tell you that I'd rather face almost any knife or sword we sold than a 10" Wusthof Trident chef's knife.
Depending on the range involved, I'd also rather face a gun wielding attacker. A guy with a gun may miss and will eventually run out of bullets. His gun may jam. In a mass killing situation the knife wielder would also be able to strike multiple times before people really realize what is happening.
Re: people discounting your points - maybe you don't actually have as many of those 'correct and solid' as you think?
Well, discounting the fact that I also admitted I would likely get rid of large "kill em only" knives, which I'm going to assume is what they meant by "Large Knife", yes... guns are still bad. Yes, he still had access to guns, and if he had gone that way it would have been much worse.
In one paragraph please briefly describe how it would be even remotelypossible to "get rid" of large knives. Feel free to apply the same logic to guns as well, seeing as they are both just machined pieces of metal.
I really hate that I've managed to make myself the demon of the board because I know that means you guys all can just discount my solid and correct points.
Nah, we still love you. If you do start making solid and correct points though... might be a different story.
I'll save you guys some time with your normal talking points for the needless slaughter.
- Justin Bourque is just some wacko that fell through the cracks of mental health experts
- He could have used a knife, flamethrower or baseball bat to kill those officers.
- This rarely ever happens in Canada but it's going to sometimes, there's just nothing you can do to stop it.
- If more people in Moncton had guns themselves, this nutjob could have been taken down sooner.
- Screw tighter gun control, he could have made his own gun with a metal lathe.
- Criminals don't abide by gun laws. No shit Sherlock but if guns were only in the possession of criminals it kinda makes the police's job a little easier to discern which is which.
sure, its just that in all the emotional outrage the two million of us tend to get lumped in with the one crazy guy. I'm just bracing for another wave of gun control BS I guess.
Nah, he's techincally not wrong - there's nothing wrong with a dislike of guns. It's fair and even I share the same dislike when talking about lunatics having them.
Where we disagree though is the idea that taking *my* guns would have any kind of effect on what crazy people do with theirs, or the idea that you could ever stop their availability.
Where we disagree though is the idea that taking *my* guns would have any kind of effect on what crazy people do with theirs, or the idea that you could ever stop their availability.
But he'll insist he's right about that, which is sort of my point.
Ha yeah I enjoyed that Jim Jefferies special. Had to bite my tongue for parts of that bit - and he makes a lot of points that can be easily rebutted - but hey its comedy.
Ha yeah I enjoyed that Jim Jefferies special. Had to bite my tongue for parts of that bit - and he makes a lot of points that can be easily rebutted - but hey its comedy.
Easiest one to rebut is the notion that mass killings magically stopped in Australia when they enacted the Port Arthur Laws. didn't even put a stop to mass shootings in Australia.
I find it odd that the gunman went ahead and did this anyways - I mean, 2 or 3 other recent gunmen have been killed by police (A little sad that I can't precisely which gun massacres they were in the last 2 years), so, shouldn't this mean that potential gunmen wouldn't commit the act since, you know, they likelihood is they'll die? It's almost like instant death sentence.... why isn't it working?
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Or if one of those 5 had been packing....
Oh wait just a second. That boy was the son of a Police Officer. So there were properly stored firearms at his house.... how is it possible that guns were not involved then????
Well, discounting the fact that I also admitted I would likely get rid of large "kill em only" knives, which I'm going to assume is what they meant by "Large Knife", yes... guns are still bad. Yes, he still had access to guns, and if he had gone that way it would have been much worse.
Am I saying that guns are the root of these crazy unfortunate attacks? No... but they aren't necessary to our society, and shouldn't be around. Do I think the vast majority of guns are used "properly"? Yes, most people that need to make themselves feel more manly through firearms use them correctly. But when someone does go off their rocker with one, it's bad... really bad.
I really hate that I've managed to make myself the demon of the board because I know that means you guys all can just discount my solid and correct points.
Mark
As a former knife salesman at the fabulous House of Knives in Kitchener's Fairview Mall, I can tell you that I'd rather face almost any knife or sword we sold than a 10" Wusthof Trident chef's knife.
Depending on the range involved, I'd also rather face a gun wielding attacker. A guy with a gun may miss and will eventually run out of bullets. His gun may jam. In a mass killing situation the knife wielder would also be able to strike multiple times before people really realize what is happening.
Re: people discounting your points - maybe you don't actually have as many of those 'correct and solid' as you think?
That's just nonsense
Mark
In one paragraph please briefly describe how it would be even remotely possible to "get rid" of large knives. Feel free to apply the same logic to guns as well, seeing as they are both just machined pieces of metal.
Statements like that just make you look silly. Standing by with dick measurements.
Agreed.
Nah, we still love you. If you do start making solid and correct points though... might be a different story.
- Justin Bourque is just some wacko that fell through the cracks of mental health experts
- He could have used a knife, flamethrower or baseball bat to kill those officers.
- This rarely ever happens in Canada but it's going to sometimes, there's just nothing you can do to stop it.
- If more people in Moncton had guns themselves, this nutjob could have been taken down sooner.
- Screw tighter gun control, he could have made his own gun with a metal lathe.
- Criminals don't abide by gun laws. No shit Sherlock but if guns were only in the possession of criminals it kinda makes the police's job a little easier to discern which is which.
Very sad though, hate to see anything like this.
That's really worth noting? That is the absolute minimum we should expect from gun owners.
Love the Stoner Weapons System.
But I still like that crazy Russian out of North Carolina
The M24 SAW was my fave.
Anyhoo, don't want guns here. More fun there. That's all I have to add to the thread. Ahem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QtM7X0xYN8
Mark
About being against guns is that I don't have to do any work looking for examples.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/nine-people-reported-dead-southwest-missouri-murders-local-133539303.html
Mark
Side note: somebody should have shot that guy.
Where we disagree though is the idea that taking *my* guns would have any kind of effect on what crazy people do with theirs, or the idea that you could ever stop their availability.
But he'll insist he's right about that, which is sort of my point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP3HJVp3n9c
Mark
Nope . . . so what?
Easiest one to rebut is the notion that mass killings magically stopped in Australia when they enacted the Port Arthur Laws. didn't even put a stop to mass shootings in Australia.
I'm afraid I disagree with Jim Jeffries, in that I am losing all respect for those 50% that disagree.
"So, fuck off!"
I find it odd that the gunman went ahead and did this anyways - I mean, 2 or 3 other recent gunmen have been killed by police (A little sad that I can't precisely which gun massacres they were in the last 2 years), so, shouldn't this mean that potential gunmen wouldn't commit the act since, you know, they likelihood is they'll die? It's almost like instant death sentence.... why isn't it working?
Mark