High Stakes Poker Four Premiere's Tonight

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Just got a notice from GSN. My favourite poker show!

Cheers
Magi

Critically acclaimed and the only show of its kind on television, HIGH STAKES POKER is back for another action packed season. HIGH STAKES POKER IV features a $100,000 minimum buy-in and then raises the stakes to $500,000 later this season. This cash game features returning poker superstars Doyle Brunson, Phil "The Unabomber" Laak, Jamie Gold, Daniel Negreanu, Mike "The Mouth" Matusow, Antonio Esfandiari, Sammy Farha, Phil Hellmuth and other high rollers. Joining HIGH STAKES POKER for the first time is founder of Cirque du Soleil, Guy Laliberte, and seven other newcomers. With a record-breaking $5 million on the table this season, HIGH STAKES POKER IV is the richest cash game in history.
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  • HobbesHobbes
    Same here.

    I've been looking forward to this.
  • actyperactyper
    Thanks, was under the impression it started in Sept. Have to reorder it now.
  • Nooner81Nooner81
    A few thoughts...

    1. I can't believe that Matusow folded KK against Hellmuth. That was hilarious.

    2. I cringe when Hellmuth starts talking about his wealth or comments about private jets etc. He sounds like a 12yr old nerd.

    3. That was great TV when the Italian contractor bet $50k into the musclehead who was holding quads.

    It was a great season opener. I hope we see more of the same next week.
  • westside8westside8
    Nooner81 wrote: »
    A few thoughts...

    You should probably post spoiler alert...
  • HobbesHobbes
    westside8 wrote: »
    You should probably post spoiler alert...

    Thanks for that nooner.
    I recorded it.
  • Nooner81Nooner81
    I apologize. I am sure that everyone will still enjoy the show.
  • cadillaccadillac
    Nooner81 wrote: »
    There is no such thing as Santa Claus


    ...........
  • BigChrisElBigChrisEl
    Nooner81 wrote: »
    A few thoughts...

    1. I can't believe that Matusow folded KK against Hellmuth. That was hilarious.



    Matusow apparently has only 100 K so he didn't want to risk going broke so early on that is why he folded.
  • Nooner81Nooner81
    Matusow apparently has only 100 K so he didn't want to risk going broke so early on that is why he folded.

    Well then perhaps he shouldn't be playing if he is scared about losing his money. It was an easy call.
  • blackmagiczblackmagicz
    Nooner81 wrote: »


    Well then perhaps he shouldn't be playing if he is scared about losing his money. It was an easy call.

    Not necessarily....figure these guys have played a lot together like Matasow said Helmuth never puts big bets on the river unless he has the goods. There must have been times in the past where he watched Phil do the same thing to someone else.

    I mean watching on tv it looks like a ridiculous fold but sitting there shoving in another 40K altogether different.
  • beanie42beanie42
    Nooner81 wrote: »
    Well then perhaps he shouldn't be playing if he is scared about losing his money.
    Obviously playing without a rebuy is a bit dicey, but the fact that Hellmuth knew is worse. If Hellmuth doesn't know Matusow is playing one buy-in, he probably doesn't fire the third bullet (since Mike would probably call if he had a rebuy).
    blackmagicz wrote: »
    Not necessarily....figure these guys have played a lot together like Matasow said Helmuth never puts big bets on the river unless he has the goods. There must have been times in the past where he watched Phil do the same thing to someone else.
    I agree. Awful fold, but the only player Mike would do that for is Hellmuth I think. However, he played the hand so badly before the river, that the fold on the river isn't that much worse than his unwillingness to raise during the hand.
  • SirWattsSirWatts
    I think Matusow played the hand very well up to the river, and the river is bad but probably not as bad as it looks. Without the 72 rule the fold is likely correct.
  • BigChrisElBigChrisEl
    For those of you that missed it here it is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpv6_J-Zw7E
  • actyperactyper
    Mike had perfect reasoning for the fold. If it was a stranger, instant call pretty much.
  • QueenNineQueenNine
    He did say he put Phil on QQ right from the start, whether or not he actually did is another thing that only Mike knows. But if he did put him on QQ right from the beginning, then his fold was the right move.

    If Phil doesn't show the 72, then Mike probably goes to his grave thinking it was a great fold.
  • beanie42beanie42
    MDSGuy wrote: »
    if he did put him on QQ right from the beginning, then his fold was the right move
    It would have been a great fold on the turn, but the river didn't change anything. If he really thinks Phil has QQ, why call the turn? The only hand that could possibly justify the way Mike played the river is putting Phil on a hand with a 6 in it - anything else makes the turn and river plays conflicting.
  • SirWattsSirWatts
    This is pretty flawed logic beanie, the fact that Phil bets the river gives Mike a lot of information about his hand. In fact his main reason for folding was that he knew Phil rarely ever bluffs the river, so once he fires the big river bet he is much more likely to have a big hand, whereas he would give up on a lot of the hands he bluffs the turn with. I think it's pretty unlikely that even Phil Helmuth is bad enough to check top set on that flop very often though and that combined with the fact there's a lot more combinations of 72 than there are of QQ/JJ and that Phil would often just call preflop with those hands (even though he's not always going to go this crazy with the 72) makes the river an easy call imo. On the other hand without the 72 rule this is a turbofold against Helmuth probably.
  • moosemoose
    Ep2 is up on torrents.
  • fdart17fdart17
    Nooner81 wrote: »

    Well then perhaps he shouldn't be playing if he is scared about losing his money. It was an easy call.

    he said it himself, phil almost always bets big on the river with a good hand (and it's very, VERY true). it wasen't an easy call at all.



    Bwt, if you miss the shows yuo can watch them at pokertube if this hasent alredy been posted.
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    The 9 PM episode tonight had the biggest ever pot in HSP history. Jamie Gold went all in on the turn with a set of kings despite two possible straights. Patrick Antonius calls with the nut straight and the pot is a mind-blowing $743,700. By the way, I heard that Barry Greenstein won a $250,000 pot at Fallsview's version of High Stakes poker during WPT week.

    I was screaming at the TV for Patrick to propose running it three times, then Patrick and Jamie did agree to run the river three times. I'm surprised that Gabe Kaplan had no idea why Patrick would want to run it more than once.
    magithighs wrote: »
    raises the stakes to $500,000 later this season.
  • westside8westside8
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    The 9 PM episode tonight had the biggest ever pot in HSP history. Jamie Gold went all in on the turn with a set of kings despite two possible straights. Patrick Antonius calls with the nut straight and the pot is a mind-blowing $743,700. By the way, I heard that Barry Greenstein won a $250,000 pot at Fallsview's version of High Stakes poker during WPT week.

    I was screaming at the TV for Patrick to propose running it three times, then Patrick and Jamie did agree to run the river three times. I'm surprised that Gabe Kaplan had no idea why Patrick would want to run it more than once.

    It would be GREAT if you don't spoil the show for EVERYONE. There is something called SPOILER ALERT that exist in this world.
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    Umm, the HSP episode has already aired and this is a HSP thread to discuss such things. If you go to a Survivor forum after an episode has aired, why would you complain if somebody is discussing the episode? Anyway, I purposely didn't post the results so you can still watch out for the hand and enjoy the ending. :)
    westside8 wrote: »
    It would be GREAT if you don't spoil the show for EVERYONE.
  • BigChrisElBigChrisEl
    westside8 wrote: »
    It would be GREAT if you don't spoil the show for EVERYONE. There is something called SPOILER ALERT that exist in this world.

    captain.jpg

    Check the date of the post...if it is after the latest episode chances are it is going to be about that episode.

    Also if you start reading the post and it starts like "The 9 PM episode tonight had...." stop reading there if you do not want to know more.

    And now you know...and knowning is blah blah blah

    ;)
  • westside8westside8
    I know :D I wanted to stir something up cuz ppl here has been too nice lately.
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    "Playing nice" is what moderators need to enforce to make "Canada's Poker Forum" grow. Too many old-timers, newbies and lurkers were driven away from ever contributing to this forum by the previously high ratio of nastiness to poker content. Now that they are slowly starting to come back, you don't want the contributors to be driven away again.
    westside8 wrote: »
    I wanted to stir something up cuz ppl here has been too nice lately.
  • cadillaccadillac
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    "Playing nice" is what moderators need to enforce to make "Canada's Poker Forum" grow. Too many old-timers, newbies and lurkers were driven away from ever contributing to this forum by the previously high ratio of nastiness to poker content. Now that they are slowly starting to come back, you don't want the contributors to be driven away again.


    Yeah! Sick the the mods on that guy....LOL
  • CanadaDaveCanadaDave
    I volunteer to be the 'play nice' enforcer. :) I will troll the threads searching for 'unnice' comments and then clean them up.

    For example, if someone posts "oh great another Bad Beat post! save us the time, you suck, you got beat, and now you are on tilt and typing about it!!!"...

    I'll fly in and make it:

    "oh no, another bad beat post, this happens all the time, it sucks, I get beat like that too, and it puts me on tilt sometimes as well, but I rarely type about it".

    We all know its what the original poster meant.. but much 'nicer'.

    :D
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    These $500,000 buy-in episodes have become my favourite poker shows ever. Tonight's show had an even more amazing hand, where disgusted Doyle described the two sick gamblers as "Dumb and Dumber"! Is there an HSP or other forum where there is active discussion of HSP episodes?
    The 9 PM episode tonight had the biggest ever pot in HSP history.
  • ElElliottElElliott
    I think Doyle's best line from last night was when he whispered to Barry Greenstein...

    "If my Daddy knew I was a loser in this game he'd roll over in his grave".

    I :h: Doyle.
  • HobbesHobbes
    By far the best episode yet.
    The first hand must have taken about 10 minutes.

    If I were Sammy, I wouldn't have let the fkr Gold off.
    Earlier on he says the Sammy has Aces (who didn't know at that table)
    Then he says he thought he was letting Sammy off easy.
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