I just had an awesome day of shopping, fine dining and a little pool.
It's too bad you let some guy you don't know waste so much of your time. Sunday-Wednesday I have nothing better to do than tell people off who annoy me on here. Take what I said with a grain of salt, but if YOU can drop YOUR ego, you might see what I am actually saying.
You called it a rare situation. Unless you come across this exact 'rare' situation x more times and you are lucky enough to have your variance be EXACT (which it is not) AND you have the same stack, versus a stack the same or larger and you both hold the SAME cards...*breath*...you will make money in the very very very long run making this donkey ass move.
Haddon, do you realise that this "long run theory" is the only thing that poker players have to hold on-to in order to survive the variance of the game? It's the basic theory that keeps winning players coming back..
I mean, if you take the long run out of poker, you are correct, it's merely a game of chance and gamb00l time.
. You have K8, and know you are ahead of two random cards, why should you not call?
I understand the long run theory.
All winning players do.
I am a winning player and I believe in variance. I just don't see why this move is worth doing, how many times will this situation come up?
I just hate these stupid threads so I have some fun with them.
No, I wouldn't have made the call at all. Were your cards even suited? Choose your battles wisely and this wasn't a wise decision. It sounds like you were just looking to make some quick money.
Welcome to the forum, Doktor B.S. As other former newbies know, you will have to develop a thick skin on this forum as flame wars and off-topic insults can make members scared to ever post again and just move on to a different poker forum.
To get back on topic, here is my 2¢. Given the hero's reads that the blinds will fold, I would have made the same call as long as I have sufficient bankroll. K-8o against a random hand has a 54.43% chance of winning and 42.39% losing. Your expected value is
EV = 54.43% * ($100 + $3) - 42.39% * $100
= +$13.67
Hero will make an average profit of $13.67 for making the call (given the assumptions). If I get unlucky and lose, I would simply reload and continue trying to make correct +EV decisions.
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. You have K8, and know you are ahead of two random cards, why should you not call?
Because of the blinds left to act.
Best attempt at getting this thread back on track. This all comes down to position. I think most people would agree that this is a clear call closing the action in the BB. This would be a terrible call UTG+1. So, somewhere along the lines our position turns this from marginally profitable call to a losing one. So, what's the cuttoff position wise where this is still +EV?
Just guessing, I think the SB might be razor thin +EV, but I'm guessing button is possibly -EV (but close), and I'm guessing cutoff is almost certainly a money loser.
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It's too bad you let some guy you don't know waste so much of your time. Sunday-Wednesday I have nothing better to do than tell people off who annoy me on here. Take what I said with a grain of salt, but if YOU can drop YOUR ego, you might see what I am actually saying.
WERRRRRRRRRRRRRD!
Haddon, do you realise that this "long run theory" is the only thing that poker players have to hold on-to in order to survive the variance of the game? It's the basic theory that keeps winning players coming back..
I mean, if you take the long run out of poker, you are correct, it's merely a game of chance and gamb00l time.
Because of the blinds left to act.
All winning players do.
I am a winning player and I believe in variance. I just don't see why this move is worth doing, how many times will this situation come up?
I just hate these stupid threads so I have some fun with them.
Can poker players have fun too?
To get back on topic, here is my 2¢. Given the hero's reads that the blinds will fold, I would have made the same call as long as I have sufficient bankroll. K-8o against a random hand has a 54.43% chance of winning and 42.39% losing. Your expected value is
EV = 54.43% * ($100 + $3) - 42.39% * $100
= +$13.67
Hero will make an average profit of $13.67 for making the call (given the assumptions). If I get unlucky and lose, I would simply reload and continue trying to make correct +EV decisions.
Best attempt at getting this thread back on track. This all comes down to position. I think most people would agree that this is a clear call closing the action in the BB. This would be a terrible call UTG+1. So, somewhere along the lines our position turns this from marginally profitable call to a losing one. So, what's the cuttoff position wise where this is still +EV?
Just guessing, I think the SB might be razor thin +EV, but I'm guessing button is possibly -EV (but close), and I'm guessing cutoff is almost certainly a money loser.