Port Perry Sitngo great experience

Played my first sitngo at the great blue heron

I didnt fair too well but i expected as much for my first b&m

However the players and the dealers were great--

no a@@holes and every one seemed to be having fun-- no sore losers at my table anyways

I highly recommend giving it a shot on wedsnesdays for 50.00 buy in

Bob
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  • holemhigh wrote:
    Played my first sitngo at the great blue heron

    I didnt fair too well but i expected as much for my first b&m

    However the players and the dealers were great--

    no a@@holes and every one seemed to be having fun-- no sore losers at my table anyways

    I highly recommend giving it a shot on wedsnesdays for 50.00 buy in

    Bob

    What's up Holem'

    Am a regular at that place! Didn't go today though.....

    I know most of the regulars there, pretty cool people....and lots of fun and excitement!

    Let me know the next time you go...
  • What are the limits?
  • they have a couple ring games running
    but I opted for the NL 50.00 buy-in single table tourney
    I prefer the tourneys for fun!

    also on thursdays they have 100.00 buyin NL

    Be great to get to know the regular crowd
  • good to hear those tournaments are barrels of fun. I will probably be back back in a couple of weeks, my work has been scheduling me on wednesday nights for the last couple of weeks, but my next wednesday off i'll be back in action for sure. Just look for the guy busting Don Carlito out of the tournaments on a regualr basis. Muwhahaha
  • What's the format of the tournament? (i.e starting chips? blind schedule? payouts?)
  • start with 40 chips, blinds start at 1-2 and double every ten minutes. 11 players with $50 going to the house so the winner takes $500. Winner has the option of playing in the next sit n go. Whole thing takes about an hour and then they call the next 10 or 11 players on the list.
  • I disagee. These tournies are a total crapshoot, and a waste of $$$. 40 chips with blinds doubling every 10 mins!?!?! C'mon.. You cant play 20 hands before being crippled by the blinds...

    I finished 2nd, and split 200/300, but a total waste of time IMO
  • admittedly it is tough but at 1 in 11 for 10 to 1 (winner takes all) on your $$ isnt horrible considering the bankroll you need to play 5/10
  • An email i wrote the GBH Casino
    if you go there why not fire one off to them aswell

    info@gbhcasino.com <info@gbhcasino.com>



    Hi there

    I recently played in one of your mini holdem tournaments-- had a lot of fun
    however i do have a suggestion as with the chips number being 40 and blinds doubling every 10 mins it really takes most of the skill out in favour of "luck" or early cards

    if the tourneys had a buy-in plus a fee to allow your casino to make enough money on the games to allow them to run a little longer (for instance 800.00 in chips) then i really believe you will have a very loyal and ongoing client base for these events.

    I love NL Holdem tourneys but it becomes a crap shoot when the chips are so few.

    Robert G
  • inmiss wrote:
    I disagee. These tournies are a total crapshoot, and a waste of $$$. 40 chips with blinds doubling every 10 mins!?!?! C'mon.. You cant play 20 hands before being crippled by the blinds...

    I finished 2nd, and split 200/300, but a total waste of time IMO


    The time of the blinds is ok but I am hopin they one day cap them at 32/64.

    However, this game is a good experience, you have to be completely on point to make it out as one or two mistakes will cost you the game.


    Think of it as a Chess game, some people like a 5 minute blitz , some people like the standard 20 minute game to think further and relax.
  • good to hear those tournaments are barrels of fun. I will probably be back back in a couple of weeks, my work has been scheduling me on wednesday nights for the last couple of weeks, but my next wednesday off i'll be back in action for sure. Just look for the guy busting Don Carlito out of the tournaments on a regualr basis. Muwhahaha

    You're going down bud.....


    All-in
  • Holemhigh:

    Nice email to Port Perry. The blind structures at the Rama and Port Perry tournaments are so ridiculous that I haven't considered playing in one. I realize that we are discussing their SNG's, but it's almost as bad for their multi's. Hopefully one day they'll figure out that players can just as easily play on the net at a site that has a reasonable tournament structure. There is competition out there, so making their tournaments move along as quickly as possible--so they can open their tables for ring games and get the rake going again, or start another SNG and get another round of entry fees--is not a long-term +EV move for them.

    That being said, if people keep playing in these tournaments, they'll never change the structure. The West coast is miles ahead of Ontario casinos when it comes to putting on a fair, reasonable tournament. Next time I'm at Rama or Port Perry I'll try to tell the poker manager just that. Maybe the fact that I'm on CPP right now will get them to listen to me, but I doubt it.

    Thanks for sending them an email, holemhigh... maybe if they get enough of them they'll start thinking about quality over quantity.

    Regards,
    all_aces
  • Shooter wrote:
    start with 40 chips, blinds start at 1-2 and double every ten minutes.  

    double every 10 minutes, 11 handed table, that's AT LEAST 2 levels by the time the button does a full rotation, that is CRAZY, blinds doubling every 5 or so hands, nutz0rz.


    P.S.

    didnt realize this was a year old, i did a search for info on the Port Perry sit n go's and found this thread. Is the structure still the same or have they changed it?
  • all_aces wrote:
    Holemhigh:

    Nice email to Port Perry. The blind structures at the Rama and Port Perry tournaments are so ridiculous that I haven't considered playing in one. I realize that we are discussing their SNG's, but it's almost as bad for their multi's. Hopefully one day they'll figure out that players can just as easily play on the net at a site that has a reasonable tournament structure. There is competition out there, so making their tournaments move along as quickly as possible--so they can open their tables for ring games and get the rake going again, or start another SNG and get another round of entry fees--is not a long-term +EV move for them.

    That being said, if people keep playing in these tournaments, they'll never change the structure. The West coast is miles ahead of Ontario casinos when it comes to putting on a fair, reasonable tournament. Next time I'm at Rama or Port Perry I'll try to tell the poker manager just that. Maybe the fact that I'm on CPP right now will get them to listen to me, but I doubt it.

    Thanks for sending them an email, holemhigh... maybe if they get enough of them they'll start thinking about quality over quantity.

    Regards,
    all_aces

    Devin, I am a Supervisor there and usually run the tournaments minis and multis.. If you have any questions or suggestions address them to GBHSftMgr as he has some pull in the Poker Dept ;)
    Sorry to put it on ya Lee, but can you please respond here to the pros and cons. A lot of the players LOVE these SitNgos :D I for one think they are a great way of introducing a scared novice to poker

    Pokerkid
  • I played my first 50$ SNG a couple weeks ago at the Heron and because of the structure i wont play again and suggest that to others. I agree with all that was mentioned above about having an entry fee included to cover the extra time and have a reasonable time for the blinds to go up. I felt rushed the entire time and I could tell others did aswell because there was an abnormal number of all ins so early in the tourny. The idea for the sng is fantastic and is guarenteed to get full tables but it seems like they are not run in favour of the participants. Also when i was playing(i entered the first sng of the day) i believe i noticed a table or two was open at the other end of the poker pit. If those tables also had sngs running in the morning/noon then couldnt the structure be adjusted without having to rush through? I know this isnt the place to place my complaints, but im sure i wouldnt be the first to email or talk to the Supervisors about the SNG structure.
  • The problem is just the way the blinds go up. I play it for the sake of playing it because there are a lot of bad players who don't play pot committed and can be moved off a hand with one word "all in".

    If the blinds moved up every 15 minutes (maybe even every 12) since the latter stages takes 2-3 minutes a hand to sort out the all in and side pot (some dealers just don't get it, they think a 2 chip all in on a 16 BB is enough to win the whole pot). Or maybe even changing the blind structure, i remember getting up to 64/128 and with 440 chips in play, each hand was a pot committed play.

    The strategy that I emplore when playing this is to take SEAT 11, since you will be the last to hit the blinds (you will most likely hit 2/4) and pay only 6 chips for the first 18 hands ish and hope to pick something up to double up off of. Then its just trying to find out who are the callers and who are the folders and its off to races.
  • Simply stated, these things are AWFUL.

    Why any experienced player would invest in these crapshoots is beyond me when there are much better single-table freezouts on a regular basis around the GTA.

    :c: :d: :s: :h:
  • GTA Poker wrote:
    Simply stated, these things are AWFUL.

    Why any experienced player would invest in these crapshoots is beyond me when there are much better single-table freezouts on a regular basis around the GTA.

    :c: :d: :s: :h:
    Reason to play is because their are more donks. I UTG Limp reraised all in on 2/4 blinds (first hand I played because I was in seat 11) and the guy who raised to 8 called with KJ I think to my KK because he thought I was making a move :D
  • I can't disagree more with people's observations of there being more poor players at casinos than at underground games.

    Usually this opinion comes from players that never play underground. Myself, I play both, and have found the players the same in both (if not worse in undergrounds), have found the players as bad if not worse in Vegas over the last 1-2 years, etc,etc...I have yet to find a locale with consistantly good players.

    So as far as playing freezouts in the GTA or vicinity I think the wiser investment would be playing in a game with better structure. Why play where there is a greater luck factor if you are a more skilled player?
  • Tilter wrote:


    The strategy that I emplore when playing this is to take SEAT 11, since you will be the last to hit the blinds (you will most likely hit 2/4) and pay only 6 chips for the first 18 hands ish and hope to pick something up to double up off of.  Then its just trying to find out who are the callers and who are the folders and its off to races.

    so your telling me the button always starts in Seat 1, they don't even high card for the button or anything? holy jeez.
  • After a year of sit 'n go action every Wednesday and Thursday and a chance to evaluate the game and the revenue to the Casino, I've come up with a few changes to the game. First off, the sit 'n go games will be played under Tournament Directors of America rules (the Poker Challenge and CPT events will change to TDA rules in 2006). I believe in the concept of having a uniform set of rules right across North America and think this will be a big plus to Poker in general and Tournaments in particular.

    The other change I am implementing is to the blind structure. The blinds will go up every 11 hands and the blinds become capped at 10/20.

    These changes are effective 24 August 2005.

    Some other information for those interested:

    There are less than 10 seats available for the 12 October 2005 Poker Challenge and more than ½ of the seats are sold for the 15 December 2005 Tournament of Champions.

    The 9 November 2005 CPT Major Event is also approaching 50% full very quickly.

    For any 7 card Stud players out there, I will be offering a Freeroll into the 2006 European 7 card Stud Championship to include Tournament entry, airfare, hotel and meals. This event will be held in Baden Austria in the late fall of 2006. This will be a bonus prize at one of our Tournaments next year. I'll have more details early in the new year.

    Cheers,

    Lee
  • Is there a new chip structure for the sitngos?

    Can you please post more specifics regarding these tournaments -- buy ins, structures, etc?

    Thanks
  • GTA Poker wrote:
    Is there a new chip structure for the sitngos?

    Can you please post more specifics regarding these tournaments -- buy ins, structures, etc?

    Thanks
    Wednesday $50 (11 ppl, $500 to first, house takes $50)
    Thursday $100 (11ppl, $1000 to first, house take $100)

    As mentioned, 11 hands and blind raises (before with 10 minnutes, the first few levles would take 6-7 hands, then it would be 3-4 hands with all the enormous chip counting and chopping).

    I think the structure will be simiar to the previous one:
    1-2
    2-4
    4-8
    8-16
    10-20 so it will offer more strategic play in the end. I am very excited abour the cap on blinds and structure.

    Mr Manager, what time does registration for SNGs start on wednesday?
  • Sorry, by tournaments I meant the major tournies
  • For any 7 card Stud players out there, I will be offering a Freeroll into the 2006 European 7 card Stud Championship to include Tournament entry, airfare, hotel and meals. This event will be held in Baden Austria in the late fall of 2006. This will be a bonus prize at one of our Tournaments next year. I'll have more details early in the new year.

    1) It's refreshing to hear from the other side of the casino.

    2) I'm loving the concept that a B&M would even consider a freeroll..
  • Hey Tilter,

    Mr. Manager ... now I really feel old ... :'( but then I am old <heavy sigh>. I'm going to have to change my avatar, Dave Scharf laughed when he saw it because it looks just like me.

    Seriously Tilter... you are right on about the structure it will be exactly as you described. BTW we will be drawing cards for the button to start each sit 'n go. (I know the guys who scramble for seat 11 will hate me now `)

    Players can register for the sit 'n go from 08:00 Wednesday morning or Thursday morning. Say hi if you come in to visit us.

    Cheers,

    Lee
  • Wednesday and Thursday SnG's start at 12 noon. I believe they run from Noon to 6am each day.
  • Hey Lee,
    Mr VERY VERY YOUNG Manager, so we can register @8am, but the SNGs will start @ 12 or @ 8 as well.

    As for the high card for button...NNNOOOOOOOOO, that was my ultimate strategy, seat 11, no one wants it, except the guy who knows how to play the blind structure haha. Oh well, now I can actually take a seat like Seat 8 where i can see almost everyone.
  • HA HA HA ....

    You can sweet talk all you want Tilter, we will still draw for the button <LOL> ... we will start the sit 'n go as soon as there are 11 players on the list and willing to play, usually should be ok to go around 10:30 or 11:00.

    Cheers,

    Lee
  • very good news lee...i was there on wed...played one...no dice.
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