Options
never good here eh
Just going over my play tonight, and this one really bugs me
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.3 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds 20 Ante (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB (t3308)
BB (t4245)
UTG (t20029)
UTG+1 (t4276)
MP1 (t4058)
MP2 (t6514)
TheNutWorstEver (CO) (t5125)
Button (t6163)
TheNutWorstEver's M: 13.31
Preflop: TheNutWorstEver is CO with A
, A
3 folds, MP2 bets t390, TheNutWorstEver raises to t750, 3 folds, MP2 calls t360
Flop: (t1885) K
, 4, 10
(2 players)
MP2 checks, TheNutWorstEver bets t450, MP2 calls t450
Turn: (t2785) 5(2 players)
MP2 checks, TheNutWorstEver bets t1234, MP2 calls t1234
River: (t5253) 10(2 players)
MP2 checks, TheNutWorstEver bets t2671 (All-In)
any one else play this different? bet flop bigger?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.3 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds 20 Ante (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB (t3308)
BB (t4245)
UTG (t20029)
UTG+1 (t4276)
MP1 (t4058)
MP2 (t6514)
TheNutWorstEver (CO) (t5125)
Button (t6163)
TheNutWorstEver's M: 13.31
Preflop: TheNutWorstEver is CO with A
, A3 folds, MP2 bets t390, TheNutWorstEver raises to t750, 3 folds, MP2 calls t360
Flop: (t1885) K
, 4, 10(2 players)MP2 checks, TheNutWorstEver bets t450, MP2 calls t450
Turn: (t2785) 5
(2 players)MP2 checks, TheNutWorstEver bets t1234, MP2 calls t1234
River: (t5253) 10
(2 players)MP2 checks, TheNutWorstEver bets t2671 (All-In)
any one else play this different? bet flop bigger?
Comments
I'm betting the flop bigger, prob half pot at least, lots of kx, gutshot, oesd, and tx hands will call vs your value bet. Prob bet turn 1/2 pot again, turn card isn't scary for him so he should call with all of his flop range.
River might be ok if you think he'll call with a King, but remember its not a value bet just because you have the nuts, he actually has to call with worse, and that ten might scare him off a lot of hands that you beat.
I'd prob tank and then jam. Its also nice to already have a lot of chips in the pot so he'll feel like he has to call.
Some players float my cbets a lot with marginal holdings so I'll occasionally check the turn back and try to suck out a bluff from villain on the river if I really think he calls the flop with a lot of air.
thanx for input Joda
been a long day
and thanx
while i got u 2 in here and i dont wanna start another thread, im gonna totally hi jack this one with a question lol
when i sit here and review all my hands from tonight, im not sure what to look for
twice i went over my session after i played tonight and i know exactly what i was thinking in these mtts/hands and it was fresh, so i can even remember reads from the hands.. and wouldnt change anything really, given what i knew at the time
i mean, i see basic coolers and beats... saw a couple spots i missed value, a couple spots i played bad.. couple spots i didn't like my sizing, couple spots i see i was getting a better price to peel than i thought ...
but all in all, how the fuck do i put it in my brain to use what i know after going over my hands into my session for tomorrow?
i hope this makes sense...
really gotta get my game together , pretty tilted with the way i played tonight
regarding reviewing your play, what do you have? PT4? HM?
I dont reveiw as much as I should, but usually I try to target something. For instance, I have had a lot of spots to call villains down on rivers pretty light lately, so I will just go in and filter all hands where I called river in the past month. And I will review most of them. See if I am really making money with these light calls or am I only remembering the 1/7 or something that worked? I also use this time to make further notes on villians.
In terms of looking at it from a broad perspective and trying to see leaks (which is I think what you are asking), I haven't figured that out yet either.... So I just dive into spots that I think are troublesome...
I read tons of post on site with players saying "I dunno whats wrong I review every night and I'm doing everything perfect"
The problem is one cannot self review. You'll just be like "thats right, thats right, thats right, oh misclick here, thats right thats right....etc."
Why should you ever do something during the day that you don't agree with at night?
I disagree with this. Athletes look at tape all the time to see what they are doing right and what they can improve on. When I review a session, out of the heat of the moment, I can objectively see spots where I go "What the "f" was I thinking ?".
I think you are talking about something different though.
Darb is basically saying, you can't see mistakes that you don't know are mistakes, even after the fact.
You are saying that you can see mistakes afterwards, which YOU KNOW are mistakes, and you made the wrong play, for whatever reason.
Edit: and i do what you are talking about all the time... jajaja
A side note about the athlete watching his tapes, he also watches with a coach and his trainer, and any of the rest of his team.
nick r u saying its better to always get someone to look at the hands ? waste of time to look at my own game?
lol yeah
when im hitting the ball bad, i record my swing and can find whats wrong 100% of the time
but... i know what to look for
haha good point
I find that im ok to look at my own stuff because i have a good understanding of what my leaks are and what i need to do to correct them
obviously i come across spots im unsure of, but im able to use tools and resources to see if i was close
then sometimes im straight up clueless and thats when i post threads lol
im gonna start posting more here in strat
No. You dont. The mind doesnt work like the body so the comparison to pitchers watching infinite amount of film after games or whatever is irrelevant.
Having peers review your work is far far superior than reviewing it yourself.