Huge hand at Rama
Playing 1/2 at Rama today and have approximately $360 in front. One other big stack has just over $400 and to my left UTG. UTG has been fairly aggressive in pots and will open limp regularly with any pocket pair, 10's or better he would raise A 10+ o would be a raise as well there as well.
The big stack limped in UTG and 6 other limpers I'm in the BB with A7 h and checked and we see the hand 8 handed.
Flop is 10h 9h 8s and I lead out $10.... UTG min raises me to $20, everyone folds to the button who makes it $55. Action to me and I make it $100 as the button has about another 80 in front of him and I want to try and isolate him. UTG tanks for what seems like 5 minutes and then shoves. Button calls ..... what is my play. Button has been draining chips but it is possible that he has anything top pair good kicker, top pair and straight draw etc.
What is my move. Pot is approximately $530 and it is almost $248 to me all in.
The big stack limped in UTG and 6 other limpers I'm in the BB with A7 h and checked and we see the hand 8 handed.
Flop is 10h 9h 8s and I lead out $10.... UTG min raises me to $20, everyone folds to the button who makes it $55. Action to me and I make it $100 as the button has about another 80 in front of him and I want to try and isolate him. UTG tanks for what seems like 5 minutes and then shoves. Button calls ..... what is my play. Button has been draining chips but it is possible that he has anything top pair good kicker, top pair and straight draw etc.
What is my move. Pot is approximately $530 and it is almost $248 to me all in.
Comments
If you want to take a more passive line you should be flatting the 55 and calling the all in of 80 to stop the action.
Either way getting your money in with this hand on this flop is a no brainer....you don't need to tank here. A lot of 2 pairs and 1 pair with a draw hands also show up here so you can win with your Ace/straight/flush.
2:1 on your money, probably 12 good outs, maybe 15. Come on. Mission accomplished.
pot odds say yes call... wtf these live players lolol
you have tons of live outs, and an ace might even be an out, since it was a limp pot, somebody might already have the made straight, but I'd still definitely be calling.
not possible lol
sick read
board: Ts8h9h
Hand Equity Wins Ties
Ah7h 25.84% 232 4
TcTd 35.47% 319 4
QdJc 38.69% 348 4
board: Ts8h9h
Hand Equity Wins Ties
Ah7h 34.07% 307 2
QhJd 33.02% 1 595
QdJc 32.91% 0 595
Ah7h 42.19% 372 27
TcTd 52.27% 463 27
8c8d 5.54% 41 27
Isolating when you don't have a made hand does not make sense, cause if you hit your nut flush, you want everyone to be in there and contribute to the pot.
I would agree with Meistro that going broke in a limped pot seems silly.
I think there were several mistakes in this hand and I would have played it differently. The flop is so textured and hits the ranges of a 8 player limp pot pretty hard. The way I see it, there is no fold equity and the only chance of you winning this pot is to hit the flush. You really want to see the turn and river for cheap. I would check-call down this hand and control the pot. This may even give you the opportunity to get out of the hand if there is a big re-raise following the action. The draw probably isn't very good if someone has a the set, made straight.
The way you played it, it is an easy call. Have a lot of equity in the pot. Only way it kind of sucks is the scenario where there is a set and other has a flush draw killing your outs and the redraw to the boat.
2/5 in BB with J10s, two callers and you decide to call. SB (who is short stack w about $140 left) raises to $20, the rest of us call.
Flop 9sQs7h
SB shoves for remaining $120, next player folds and villian makes it $250. You have about $580 left and villian has you covered. Villian has been playing pretty aggressively and calling down light. Not afraid to mix it up. To me it seemed like an isolation raise as short stack seemed ready to shove on any flop.
btw - this is a home game and you are allowed to run a side pot more than once. In case this has any bearing on your decision?
Mark
All in easy call?
Three ways, pot is 80 preflop, 200 on the short stack push, the reraise makes it $450 and it's our decision, we have $580 here, and a call drops us to 330 when the pot will be 700, what are we going to do, fold the turn?
We have 14-15 outs depending on a set being out there. We have a tremendously large chance to win this pot. Push it, we want the call.
Mark
Given the worst case scenario, (SB has pocket queens, and Villain has K8s) our equity when our shove is called by Villain is $417.42
Yes, this is bad - but this is also the worst case scenario. In the OP he said that he thought that the SB was going to shove with anything, and Villain was trying to isolate - this means that they have a lot more hands in their range than the worst case scenario.
Even in the (still unlikely) case that the small blinds has aces (with an ace of spades) and Villain has Queens we have an equity of $562.93 - which is pretty close to our $580 that we have left.
In most cases we will be 50%+ to win the the pot. That would be an equity of around $680. $580 to win $1360 is about 42.6% to break even - about the same equity as if one opponent had Queens and the other one had Ax in spades where the X is not a K or 8.
Add in the possibility that Villain may have been isolating without a hand that they would call your shove with. If they fold you now have $590 and a free roll for the rest of the $440 in the pot.
Get your money in there!!
As far as re-running the side pot goes, that depends on how risk adverse you are to losing the $580. If that $580 is needed to keep playing then you may want to agree to run it more than once. But if you are that risk adverse then you might want to follow comp's advice - but just realize that you are leaving money on the table in that case.
All the straight cards give you the goods / pure nuts
Mark
All the straight cards give you the goods / pure nuts
Mark
break wrists pushing in.
but i suck at cash games.
Isn't it always better to run it more than once when you are behind (small assumption with this flop action) and you still need to catch up?
Wait to hear from my high holiday buddy.