Interesting Hand

GordenGrecko

This is not a bad beat, but it was a hand I was involved in and had me confused until the showdown. I figured this might get some discussion or input into what everyones cards were, I will post the showdown later.

PokerStars Game #5996286691: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/08/21 - 02:35:16 (ET)
Table 'Bitias' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: atticked ($6.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Nootch22 ($26.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Rales85 ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Gaber10 ($33 in chips)
Seat 5: TheFan83 ($21.55 in chips)
Seat 6: monkeylovin ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: newman905 ($9.50 in chips)
Seat 8: Loyoyo ($39.15 in chips)
Seat 9: Scott2383 ($11.05 in chips)
Scott2383: posts small blind $0.10
atticked: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to newman905 [Ac Qd]
Nootch22: folds
Rales85: folds
Gaber10: calls $0.25
TheFan83: calls $0.25
monkeylovin: calls $0.25
newman905: raises $0.50 to $0.75
Loyoyo: calls $0.75
Scott2383: folds
atticked: calls $0.50
Gaber10: calls $0.50
TheFan83: calls $0.50
monkeylovin: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Ad 4h 4c]
atticked: checks
Gaber10: bets $1.75
TheFan83: calls $1.75
monkeylovin: calls $1.75
newman905: folds
Loyoyo: folds
atticked: folds
*** TURN *** [Ad 4h 4c] [3s]
Gaber10: bets $2
TheFan83: calls $2
monkeylovin: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Ad 4h 4c 3s] [Kd]
Gaber10: bets $5
TheFan83: calls $5
monkeylovin: raises $5 to $10
Gaber10: calls $5
TheFan83: calls $5
*** SHOW DOWN ***

djalikool

u folded AQ?

after the flop....of A 4 4

strange....

g2

Good fold. Somebody must have had a 4. But I'm guessing no one did otherwise this wouldn't be so interesting.

Actually... I'm gonna guess that no one had a single 4... monkeylover might have flopped quads

If not 44, then maybe KK.

/g2

Meistro

I'd make it $2 or $1.5 preflop and pot the flop, the whole hand plays differently from there. Still with 3 players putting in money and only two aces out there you have to think one of them has the 4. There is no flush draw...

DrTyore

I agree with Meistro...

That many limpers, pot is already like $1.10, I make at LEAST a pot-sized raise to $1.35, but more likely $2.

On that flop, well, I'd just push the rest of my money in (you had $9 to start the hand, and with my pre-flop play, you'd have put about 20% of that in. Any callers - let's say there were two - makes the push a good move)

Mark

GordenGrecko

Nice to see some of the replies.

My thinking in the hand was a liitle steamed as i just took a huge hit to a runner runner, making me a shorter stack at the table.

I figured my first mistake was preflop and with that many limpers and with good position I should have raised maybe 4 or 5x bb. And after a couple of callers I knew it was going to be a family pot.

But I will post the showdown shortly.

beanie42

As everyone else, I raise to $1.50 pre-flop. If the action stays the same (everyone comes along and is betting/calling on the flop), I fold the flop.

GordenGrecko wrote:

My thinking in the hand was a liitle steamed as i just took a huge hit to a runner runner, making me a shorter stack at the table.

I think these are your main mistakes. If you're a little steamed and not playing your best, take a quick break. If you've taken a beat in a cash game but feel good enough to keep playing RELOAD - you should never feel like you have to play a hand because you're short-stacked.

CanadaDave

I have a feeling monkeylovin has an AK, and was trying to be sneaky until that river. Not because I'm familiar with him, just because I've seen this type of play a few too many times. Though with the low limit hold'em tables, and that many ppl in preflop, there is a chance someone hit a four, and played it slow, so maybe monkey was holding a 4 and that's why he raised the river; but that is a bit more conventional play, and thus wouldn't result in a topic of 'interesting hand'.

I just noticed, I can't make a post without at least 1 run-on sentence.. ah well, only salmon can swim up waterfalls.

:P

Dave

GordenGrecko

^^ I was having similar thoughts.

Based upon the action on the flop I assumed there was another ace, maybe with a king but doubtful. I was convinced that someone had a 4, perhaps even A4s giving him the full house, that would have been sick. I thought I would save myself some money and fold and if I was bluffed good for them.

Anyways the showdown....

*** SHOW DOWN ***
monkeylovin: shows [4s 4d] (four of a kind, Fours)
Gaber10: shows [Jc As] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
TheFan83: mucks hand
monkeylovin collected $43.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $45.85 | Rake $2.25
Board [Ad 4h 4c 3s Kd]
Seat 1: atticked (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Nootch22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Rales85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Gaber10 showed [Jc As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 5: TheFan83 mucked [Ah Th]
Seat 6: monkeylovin showed [4s 4d] and won ($43.60) with four of a kind, Fours
Seat 7: newman905 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Loyoyo (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Scott2383 (small blind) folded before Flop

Regardless my read with the aces was somewhat correct and I was scared away from the pot. But the case ace and quads, hmmmm, I feel a cold deck, lol. Thanks for the replies everyone.

JohnnieH

g2 wrote:

Actually... I'm gonna guess that no one had a single 4... monkeylover might have flopped quads

Good read, Greg!!

And gold fold, Gordon!!

ChrisWinsor

Ya raise it more Prelop... Turned out nice thought cause you'd prolly still get the 44 caller and then think AQ was good