stupid limit question

AcidJoeAcidJoe
in Online Poker
If it wasn't 6 handed I maybe not make this play.  What do you think?  A full table I fold preflop.

Aug 16 21:02:16] : Hand Start.
[Aug 16 21:02:16] : Seat 1 : bigal316 has $80.68
[Aug 16 21:02:16] : Seat 2 : sivkiki has $333.13
[Aug 16 21:02:16] : Seat 3 : Conman-99 has $63.25
[Aug 16 21:02:16] : Seat 4 : will97echo has $89.25
[Aug 16 21:02:16] : Seat 5 : Acidjoe has $66.40
[Aug 16 21:02:16] : Seat 7 : ElDiablo444 has $66.75
[Aug 16 21:02:16] : Seat 8 : ibndrinkin has $222.37
[Aug 16 21:02:16] : Acidjoe is the dealer.
[Aug 16 21:02:16] : sivkiki : lucky me
[Aug 16 21:02:18] : ElDiablo444 posted small blind.
[Aug 16 21:02:28] : ibndrinkin has 10 seconds to respond.
[Aug 16 21:02:38] : ibndrinkin refused to post big blind.
[Aug 16 21:02:38] : bigal316 posted big blind.
[Aug 16 21:02:38] : Game [15044] started with 6 players.
[Aug 16 21:02:38] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Aug 16 21:02:38] : Seat 5 : Acidjoe has Ad Qd
[Aug 16 21:02:48] : sivkiki called $2 and raised $2
[Aug 16 21:02:50] : Acidjoe: ya that q saved your A$$
[Aug 16 21:02:56] : Conman-99 called $4 and raised $2
[Aug 16 21:03:07] : sivkiki : yup
[Aug 16 21:03:10] : will97echo has 10 seconds to respond.
[Aug 16 21:03:20] : will97echo folded.
[Aug 16 21:03:21] : Acidjoe called $6 and raised $2
[Aug 16 21:03:25] : ElDiablo444 folded.
[Aug 16 21:03:25] : bigal316 folded.
[Aug 16 21:03:27] : sivkiki called $4
[Aug 16 21:03:29] : Conman-99 called $2
[Aug 16 21:03:30] : Dealing flop.
[Aug 16 21:03:30] : Board cards [5c 6h Ac]
[Aug 16 21:03:32] : sivkiki bet $2
[Aug 16 21:03:34] : Conman-99 called $2 and raised $2
[Aug 16 21:03:36] : Acidjoe63 called $4 and raised $2
[Aug 16 21:03:37] : sivkiki called $4 and raised $2
[Aug 16 21:03:39] : Conman-99 called $4
[Aug 16 21:03:42] : Acidjoe called $2
[Aug 16 21:03:42] : Dealing turn.
[Aug 16 21:03:42] : Board cards [5c 6h Ac 8d]
[Aug 16 21:03:45] : sivkiki checked.
[Aug 16 21:03:46] : Conman-99 bet $4
[Aug 16 21:03:48] : Acidjoe called $4
[Aug 16 21:03:49] : sivkiki called $4
[Aug 16 21:03:50] : Dealing river.
[Aug 16 21:03:50] : Board cards [5c 6h Ac 8d Ah]
[Aug 16 21:03:52] : sivkiki checked.
[Aug 16 21:03:55] : Conman-99 bet $4
[Aug 16 21:03:59] : Acidjoe called $4
[Aug 16 21:04:01] : sivkiki called $4
[Aug 16 21:04:01] : Showdown!
[Aug 16 21:04:01] : Seat 5 : Acidjoe has Ad Qd
[Aug 16 21:04:03] : Seat 3 : Conman-99 has Kc As
[Aug 16 21:04:04] : Conman-99 has 3 of a Kind: Aces
[Aug 16 21:04:05] : Conman-99 wins $72 with 3 of a Kind: Aces
[Aug 16 21:04:14] : Hand is over.

Comments

  • JohnnieHJohnnieH
    I think you played it correctly, Joe.

    Tough when your trips gets out-kicked.
  • ElElliottElElliott
    I don't see any problems with how you played this. You had position and could close the betting on each round...you also showed some restraint on the river, which I might not have been able to do.

    I'm curious as to why, as the button with a suited ace with a strong kicker, you wouldn't play this hand on a full handed table?
  • AcidJoeAcidJoe
    I find with a raise and a re raise in front of me I usually am careful. I just feel there is a greater chance of larger cards being out there. Once the table gets shorter I discount that since I am more liberal in my raising standards and calling. I actually debated on just calling but felt it would be capped anyways so I figured I should just cap it if I play. I actually called his AK on the river to Aimee's amazement.

    So I take it most people would play this hand even at a full table and 2 raises in front?
  • ScoobyDScoobyD
    So I take it most people would play this hand even at a full table and 2 raises in front?

    I probably wouldn't. Reads are dependent here.

    With a raise and reraise in front of me on a full table (assuming that neither players are laggy) AQo becomes a fairly easy fold. AQs I find more borderline. With more people in the pot it's easily playable.

    On a short table though the first raise can easily be a standard opening raise with a pretty wide range, and the 3 bet could easily be an attempt to isolate the first raise with a decent hand (but not necessarily a monster). So I think shorthanded AQs is a fairly routine cap (unless maybe the 3 bet comes from a very weak-tight player). Similary on a full table, if the open raise is from LP and is 3 bet after, capping isn't that bad. If there's a raise and reraise from EP though, it's probably smarter to dump it pf (unless a lot of other people come along).
  • AcidJoeAcidJoe
    Sivikki was a laggy player and had no respect for his raise (it was pretty standard for him). I just finished a pot with him AQo and we chopped the pot when the Q hit the board on the river with a 10 J K 2 rainbow there. He had A 2 o. Conman seemed to be a solid player who had joined the table maybe an orbit ago. I hadn't played a pot with him and he really hadn't shown down much.


    I was curious as to your input Scooby since we sometimes seem to see things differently. If I thought calling 3 bets would see a flop I probably would have just called. Since I figured it was going to be capped I felt it better to be the one capping.
  • ScoobyDScoobyD
    Since I figured it was going to be capped I felt it better to be the one capping.

    Given your reads I like the cap. A decent player can easily be iso 3 betting a laggy raiser with a lot weaker hands than AKo there (especially in 6 max). A range might be: ATo+ A8s+ KJs+, KQo, any pair dependent on how aggressive the solid player is (and how laggy the opener was).

    Not to mention capping is probably good for metagame purposes (showing that you're capable of capping without AA/KK). Plus you have position...
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