WALKING THE LINE---SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS PLAY
I have been trying like crazy to qualify for WPT Niagra. I have opted for the two step process. The $15 Rebuy/add-on into the $500 on Paradise.
I have played in the R/A 4 times averaging 60-70 players and 4 seats awarded. Three times I have made it to the final table with nothing to show for it except a crappy $40 consolation prize.
The structure is pretty good, but by final table time, I have always been right around average stack....with that being just barely over 10x the bb. There is a fine line between playing too tight and getting blinded to death and being too agressive and getting yourself pot committed for your tournament life with a marginal hand.
Anyways, I am looking for some tips/comments anyone might have in dealing with situation and a comment on my bust out hand. 7 Players left---4 spots. Blinds are 1K/2K/150 ante. With 16K, I am the shortstack but there are three players in the 20's.
I was in the SB and get Q-9 offsuit. It folds around to me and I jam obviously hoping the BB will fold or that I have two live cards or possibly two overs to a small pocket pair. BB has about 22K so I thinking he won't come over the top w/o a legit hand. He thinks for awhile and calls with KQoffsuit and I am dominated and sent packing. Was this the correct play? Or should I have just folded and waited for a better hand? (although I don't have too much time left).
Couple factors. Not a great read on the BB, but he seemed solid. This was also one of the few times there was an unopened pot. I had a tight table image, but this was probably negated by my raise coming for the SB.
Comments welcome?
I have played in the R/A 4 times averaging 60-70 players and 4 seats awarded. Three times I have made it to the final table with nothing to show for it except a crappy $40 consolation prize.
The structure is pretty good, but by final table time, I have always been right around average stack....with that being just barely over 10x the bb. There is a fine line between playing too tight and getting blinded to death and being too agressive and getting yourself pot committed for your tournament life with a marginal hand.
Anyways, I am looking for some tips/comments anyone might have in dealing with situation and a comment on my bust out hand. 7 Players left---4 spots. Blinds are 1K/2K/150 ante. With 16K, I am the shortstack but there are three players in the 20's.
I was in the SB and get Q-9 offsuit. It folds around to me and I jam obviously hoping the BB will fold or that I have two live cards or possibly two overs to a small pocket pair. BB has about 22K so I thinking he won't come over the top w/o a legit hand. He thinks for awhile and calls with KQoffsuit and I am dominated and sent packing. Was this the correct play? Or should I have just folded and waited for a better hand? (although I don't have too much time left).
Couple factors. Not a great read on the BB, but he seemed solid. This was also one of the few times there was an unopened pot. I had a tight table image, but this was probably negated by my raise coming for the SB.
Comments welcome?
Comments
If BB is going to fold he'll "probably" fold with a pot size bet. If he calls then you get to see the flop knowing your probably an underdog and you can play the hand accordingly. If he reraises you well you tried, lost about 1/4 of your stack but still have life. My main point is this (in my opinion) I try to not put all my chips in before the flop unless I'm sure I'm leading or I'm at push or fold mode. when it's down near the bubble I play very aggresively, but I always leave myself room for losing hands here and there.
Thanks for the comment...I guess when it comes down to it If I were in the exact same position next time I still don't know what the right play is....not that there is an easy answer. Your play is probably more prudent with survival being so important. Next time, I will request KK.
By this point, I would hope all the bingo players are gone.
I've rail birded these for the past few days and watched some guy rebuy 8 times in the first 2 rounds.
I think that if you are making the final table 3 of 4 times, you are definitely doing something right.
Let us know how you make out...I may take that route too.
Hobbes
/g2
Anyways, I am determined to get to Niagra and I think this is the most economical route. We'll see.
If only it were that easy. Problem is blinds were big and getting bigger. I don't have unlimited orbits to pick up a hand....and the big stack was doing a good job of bullying the table...so steal attempts to keep afloat were limited.
Still....folding was a viable option.
He has 16K, minus the 1K for the SB if he folds he'll have 15K. Assuming the 6 hands go and he his the SB/BB at 1.5K/3K, thats another 5.5K he's just lost in the orbit. He's got to pick up a solid orbit whenever possible to stay afloat with the structure and to have the shot at becoming top 4. Would you rather have him push a hand like A5o in the SB? where the BB would be more capable of calling with A9? at least with Q9 he has a shot at having two live ones if called and wouldn't be in that bad of a shape against 1 random player.
In all honesty, if you aren't making this a standard play to your arsenal, you're losing out on value and its a big weak leak in your short stack game.
That's not an option though. Any raise pot commits you, so put maximal pressure on him. Like Titler said, this is a super super standard play and if you're not making it regularly it's a big leak.
0-2 last night in the same tourney. One very bad runner/runner bad beat that I will spare everyone and one just typical combination of cold deck and poor play.
Troy
ps. I know the Party Poker CPC was a terribly produced show, but some solid players have come from there.
Shannon Shorr is in the top 50 for Player of the Year award and currently at the final table of the Bellagio Cup 10K event after cashing in the WSOP main event.
Eric Baldwin just finished 6th in the final WSOP $1500 event.
Richard Toth took 2nd earlier in a WSOP event
David Matthew took 2nd in the WPT Championship 25K event; and
Captain Tom Franklin cashed in more than one WSOP event this year.
Guys you need to raise more than 3-4BB with these guys. ALthough they pretty much call anything.