Cheating online
I wanted to hear if anyone has any success with any software cheats for online poker.
I have tried PokerRNG, Pocket Aces, Card Swap elite, Card Scan now, and about 6 different poker bots.
To be honest, none of the above has helped me make any money.
I paid top dollar for some of these products from eBay and stuff. Of course, now you can download
Everything mentioned above for free just by searching for it on a file sharing program or go to one of
Those poker download sites, like www.pentictonpoker.com/downloads.html
But don't waste too much time with all that software, because it all sucks.
1)Pocket Aces: A total scam. This trick will change your hole cards to pocket aces every time on your
screen, but this change will have no effect with the poker site.
2)Card Swap Elite: Same as Pocket Aces; Total scam, doesn’t really swap your hole cards. And they are
charging $329 US for this program on their webpage. (www.cardswapelite.com)
3)PokerRNG: This was the biggest scam yet, if you ask me. This magic program is supposed to sync up with
the Random Number Generator that shuffles the cards at any poker site. I spent months using this program
and never saw any accurate results. (www.pokerrng.com)
4) Pokerbots: Poker bots are only as good as the brains it uses to make decisions. Most poker bots work
with Texas Calculatem or Holdem inspector. The problem with poker bots is that they only call bets with
very big hands. So it is too easy for any decent player to bluff them out of pots.
So rest assured, your are not being cheated out of your money by cheat software. Of course, people are
still out there using collusion to cheat, that’s for sure.
The only software that will help you improve your online poker game is odds calculators with auto read
options like Texas Calculatem (www.king0hearts.com/tc.html). These kind of programs will help you make
better decisions based on the math of the game, but will never teach you instinct and timing.
Other that that, you just need to learn the game and play some good, solid poker.
I have tried PokerRNG, Pocket Aces, Card Swap elite, Card Scan now, and about 6 different poker bots.
To be honest, none of the above has helped me make any money.
I paid top dollar for some of these products from eBay and stuff. Of course, now you can download
Everything mentioned above for free just by searching for it on a file sharing program or go to one of
Those poker download sites, like www.pentictonpoker.com/downloads.html
But don't waste too much time with all that software, because it all sucks.
1)Pocket Aces: A total scam. This trick will change your hole cards to pocket aces every time on your
screen, but this change will have no effect with the poker site.
2)Card Swap Elite: Same as Pocket Aces; Total scam, doesn’t really swap your hole cards. And they are
charging $329 US for this program on their webpage. (www.cardswapelite.com)
3)PokerRNG: This was the biggest scam yet, if you ask me. This magic program is supposed to sync up with
the Random Number Generator that shuffles the cards at any poker site. I spent months using this program
and never saw any accurate results. (www.pokerrng.com)
4) Pokerbots: Poker bots are only as good as the brains it uses to make decisions. Most poker bots work
with Texas Calculatem or Holdem inspector. The problem with poker bots is that they only call bets with
very big hands. So it is too easy for any decent player to bluff them out of pots.
So rest assured, your are not being cheated out of your money by cheat software. Of course, people are
still out there using collusion to cheat, that’s for sure.
The only software that will help you improve your online poker game is odds calculators with auto read
options like Texas Calculatem (www.king0hearts.com/tc.html). These kind of programs will help you make
better decisions based on the math of the game, but will never teach you instinct and timing.
Other that that, you just need to learn the game and play some good, solid poker.
Comments
Not a good post at all!
I have to disagree here. I have seen these ads, been send lots of emails, and been challenge to beat the "software" by companies. And I have turned it all down, but there has always been the nagging question when I play online, am I being cheated?
People can talk security all they want, but I have learned that where there is a will there is a way. There are some incredibly smart people out there who are highly motivated too cheat people out of there money lot of money. All you have to do is watch a show called Masterminds. Remember the Bre-X scam. There was a guy got a job a security checker in Vegas for slot machines. He was employed by the city to check the validity of the slots. He wrote a program that input into the machine that when you put coins in a certain sequence the jackpot would be paid off. He also wrote a program to rig the Keno jackpot. He got caught years later and got 7 years in jail, but he got away with it for years. I remember a case where a guy broke through bank security and robbed it with a software program he created. He only took pennies out of each account and got away with millions. And the only reason they found him was because all the accounts ended in (.00). The FBI said that if the worm had randomized the amount ie .02, .07, .03 they never would have caught him.
I have often wondered if it is possible for an outsider to see the hole cards of other players. The claims made seemed real, and I always wondered if I was being cheated. This gives me a little sense of security that I am not. But I am not convinced that someone isn’t cheating with software tapped into mainframes. There are too many smart people out. There are employee who feel they should have a bigger piece of the pie. And then there is “the love of money is the root of all evilâ€. The desire to crave money motivates men without thought of the consequences.
Prophet :2h :2s
Even in live games there will be cheats and colluders. While it is the responsibilty of the online sites to police this, it is also the responsiblity of the players to report suspected cheating and any reputable site will ensure that it is investigated and dealt with. There is just too much at stake for the online sites to be passive about cheats.
At one time, I had looked at the card swap elite site and read their material. In it they stated that the sites stored the card values on your computer and read them back to determin the winner. Right there I knew it was a pile of crap. I actually would not be suprised if these so called cheat programs merely installed some spyware on your computer so that THEY can see your cards.
The end of his post sounds more like it's an add for Texas Calculatem.
lol. punch cards, paper tape? What about vacuum tubes? When I started in 1970 they were just being phased out although I believe they were still used in Norad systems into the early 80's..
Any you are absolutely right Hobbes, playing live is probably more open to cheating than online. Those concerned about online cheating, other than perhaps collusion, which certainly happens live as well, should be more concerned about boogiemen under the bed ... Anyone who really understands networking and network security knows that the type of cheating mentioned in the original post is pure fabrication.
I feel very safe with Party, Paradise, Stars (besides the bad beats!!) and a few others.
I'd much rather play with any person live than spend all my resources in a cheating arms race with that person online.
It's just the original poster doesn't have either the programming skills, poker skills or whatever in order to make it profitable. Â That doesn't mean others aren't. Â If I could set up a bot to run 24/7 and make 5% ROI I'd unleash it on the world. Â I did a engineering thesis on programming so it probably wouldn't be hard. Â I play both to make some extra coin and for enjoyment so that blows that idea. Â I just don't relish the job of sitting for hours and hours programming something. Â Been there done that just need the t shirt.
PS if it is an add for texas calulatum, there are ways of getting it free, but what ever you do it's not worth paying for. Â I have it and don't use it as it's pretty brutal overall. Â
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Sure as that site Blondefish posted mentions some bots will jump room to room; but as long as you keep up the chatter, or play online tournaments, and use the chat technique to verify you openants you'll be safe. Even if you find out you are playing a bot in a tournament, and feel like you are being cheated out of your money, you can report the person to the site and once they have verified you were playing a bot, hopefully be reimbursed.
Just pay attention to the chat when you play, and you will probably be ok.. the biggest problem online isn't the bots anyway, it is the same problem as in a live casino... collusion. Â Only it is a little easier online. That one you just can't really control, or avoid... that is the reason I play more live poker then online poker.
I still play online; but instead of using it to make money, though i still attempt to turn a profit of course, I use it to perfect my odds/outs calculating, and my betting strategies. Practise makes perfect you know.
Cheers,
Dave
To get into the realm of using info gained from previous hands gets into artificial intelligence and I seriously doubt any Amateur hacker/programmer/poker player is going to get that complex. I'm probably sure that most of them will form a tight ass early push lots late for SNG's. And just grind it out with 77+ AK AQ AJ or so depending on position in ring games.
As to the chat, I usually don't chat unless I know someone in the room or I know I can get under the skin of someone in the room. I play 3-5 tables at once so the last thing I have time for is chatting. Ask me a question I won't answer but I am not a bot.
I think you should be able to beat most bots on the net anyways so it's not a concern for me as you can pick up their tendencies pretty quickly. That doesn't mean they should be allowed I just don't think you should fear them as much as most people think. Personally a reasonable poker player should be able to beat an average bot in my opinion.
Some of us multitable and don't have time for chatting. Other times the chat is so annoying/offensive that I just ignore it. Assuming a silent opponent is a bot is silly.
I've done some AI work and game programming, and they really are orders of magnitude different. Chess has a finite number of moves, and they each have measurable outcomes (given enough horsepower). Poker is a game of incomplete information, and there are a lot more variables than in chess. A good poker bot can be created (and some already have been), but a great bot (capable of beating a top player) is a LONG way off, IMO.
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Fabien35> When very good hand i loose
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Topaasi> IIAA shut the F*** up
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This was the chat after I took down a hand. And chatting shows your not a bot.
replace "waiting" with "praying" or 'hoping"
but I'm a sick puppy
Mark
I totally diagree with this post, if he was talking about no limit I can understand. I think it's totally possible to create a winning limit bot. There's a ton of people out there right now who make money in the long run playing Phil Helmouths top 10 hands in limit poker (and this would be probably the easiest bot programming). Let alone more advanced winning stratagies. It takes a crapload of time but thats what bots are designed for "grinding it out"
If you strictly played TT or better with AK or AQ and always came in for a raise I think you'd grind out a reasonable win rate at 1/2 or 2/4 on line. Have 2 or 3 bots doing that 7 days a week and I think you'd be ok. I don't think there is a ton of people doing it since it's so friggen boring that way. Would you be giving up something playing this way, of course, but if you go to party or somewhere when a big reload bonus is one what do you see? A $hitload of tight ass's playing to clear the bonus and if they grind out a small win that's good too.
1) Ruins the fun for everyone.
2) Cheat yourself when you do this. (Dirty Money)
3) Flat out not fair to anyone!
Here's an idea, learn the game, then play till you're good! That's how you win!