Mentor / Poker Buddy

A few months ago I joined a poker study group with a few friends.  Some were at my level while may were much further ahead of me.  Unfortunately, due to "life" and scheduling, it was very diffcult to keep this group going on a consistent/productive basis. 

Prior to joining this group, I had been picking the brain of one of the better players on a semi-regular basis (and still do).  I find myself needing to bother him less as I learn, but I still find his experience and insight very beneficial.  I had a few "shattering" revelations while discussing various topics with him, and it definitely helped my game.

I also discussed poker with a number of my friends, and went over hands and playing styles, and other topics of interest.  This casual discussion was valuable, but after the start of this study group, I hit it off with one of the other players who was close to my level of play.  While the group started winding down, we started discussing things more and more, and "growing off each other".  It also provided a bit of competition to grow more quickly, and some support through some of the bad swings.  While there are many poker topics you can chat with anybody about, some are far easier to discuss with a select few.  You don't have to worry about sounding too cocky when you brag, or too embarrassed when you really screw up.  The other trick is that you share so much that this player becomes a serious threat to you at the table, since you have shared so many "secrets" with them (although the reverse is also true ;) ).

For me, I've found that both were very helpful, and provide something books just can't.  A mentor can help with trickier questions that your poker buddy simply can't answer, and they can help you make occasional leaps in skill/understanding.  A buddy can help you with the more mundane issues (as well as some of the "emotional" ones), and spur you to steady but consistent growth.  I've seen both recommended in various places, but you realize the value a lot more when you experience it.  This is all probably pretty obvious, but it wasn't to me until I saw the results personally, so I thought I'd post it.

If you can, latch onto a mentor who can teach you, AND somebody at your level who you can grow with.  You'll be a better player for it!

Comments

  • I thought you were my mentor!!!
  • I think having a poker buddy has improved my game, but I think even more importantly, has made me enjoy the game more. We discuss hands in depth after games, discuss strategy, go over good plays and bad plays we made, and celebrate when one of is wins, and commiserate when one of us loses. Having the perspective of a player who is at the same level/stage of development is invaluable because you can discover things together.

    I don't have a mentor, but have learned a great deal from people on this forum, as well as some people who I play regularly with who have put up with my questions, and patiently explain "fold equity" for the 4th time, or why QJo isn't a good raising hand.
  • ElElliott wrote:
    QJo isn't a good raising hand.
    huh?
  • ElElliott wrote:
    I think having a poker buddy has improved my game, but I think even more importantly, has made me enjoy the game more. We discuss hands in depth after games, discuss strategy, go over good plays and bad plays we made, and celebrate when one of is wins, and commiserate when one of us loses. Having the perspective of a player who is at the same level/stage of development is invaluable because you can discover things together.

    HUSBANDS DON'T COUNT!!! :D
  • pkrfce9 wrote:
    ElElliott wrote:
    QJo isn't a good raising hand.
    huh?
    pkrfce9 wrote:
    #2 QJo is a pretty trashy hand.

    C'mon Greg - don't start messing with me now!
    STR82ACE wrote:
    HUSBANDS DON'T COUNT!!! :D

    Sure they do! Plus they have other benefits :D
  • ElElliott wrote:
    Sure they do! Plus they have other benefits :D

    STOP!!! Do NOT want to know! ???
  • ElElliott wrote:


    Sure they do! Plus they have other benefits :D

    Like taking out the garbage, or cleaning the kitty litter.

    Having another person to discuss hands with is great, it is always good to get honest feedback about certain plays you made and then discuss if it was good or bad and what you were thinking at the time and whether or not you thought process was correct.
  • ElElliott wrote:
    pkrfce9 wrote:
    ElElliott wrote:
    QJo isn't a good raising hand.
    huh?
    pkrfce9 wrote:
    #2 QJo is a pretty trashy hand.

    C'mon Greg - don't start messing with me now!
    STR82ACE wrote:
    HUSBANDS DON'T COUNT!!! :D

    Sure they do! Plus they have other benefits :D

    "poker friend" with benefits? Ugh.... :)

    Considering the ratio of men : women at the average table?

    YIKES

    Mark
  • hmmm... gives a whole new meaning to 'puck' buddy
  • great post beanie, however, I'm not as lucky as you it seems, in that i have neither a mentor or a 'poker buddy'

    I have some friends that I play with occasionally, but they're really not into it as much as I am, so i've outgrown them all quite handily...
  • gokorda wrote:
    I have some friends that I play with occasionally, but they're really not into it as much as I am, so i've outgrown them all quite handily...
    Move to KW ;)
  • Move to KW ;)

    Gladly. if I wasn't tied to school here for 3 more years. I'm not a big fan of toronto, I'll be out of here as soon as possible. Maybe once schools out I'll move next door to you and teach you how to play ;)
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