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Okay, before looking at the results, let me know if I played this hand too weak, or bad or whatever.


PokerStars Game #4893378449: Tournament #24520486, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/05/10 - 18:56:35 (ET)
Table '24520486 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Earp (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: mwplaya (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: gisborne (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: SamENoles#1 (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: ryliefan (1460 in chips)
Seat 6: don060243 (1550 in chips)
Seat 7: Milehighrr (1620 in chips)
Seat 8: jdi411 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: lowjid322 (1480 in chips)
Milehighrr: posts small blind 10
jdi411: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SamENoles#1 b]8s 8d[/b
lowjid322: calls 20
Earp: folds
mwplaya: folds
gisborne: folds
SamENoles#1: calls 20
ryliefan: folds
don060243: folds
Milehighrr: raises 40 to 60
jdi411: calls 40
lowjid322: calls 40
SamENoles#1: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [4c 6s 4h]
Milehighrr: bets 80
jdi411: raises 180 to 260
lowjid322: folds
SamENoles#1: folds
Milehighrr: calls 180
*** TURN *** [4c 6s 4h] [7s]
Milehighrr: checks
jdi411: bets 160
Milehighrr: calls 160
*** RIVER *** [4c 6s 4h 7s] [2s]
Milehighrr: checks
jdi411: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Milehighrr: shows
jdi411: mucks hand
Milehighrr collected 1080 from pot

Comments

  • I think that's a good fold early in a MTT (I assume this is a MTT).

    You cannot rule out a bigger overpair, 66, or even one of them have the 4 this early on. I would easily call preflop with 54s at this blind level trying to double up early, etc, etc. People also love their suited aces...A4 is possible. Hard to say, I guess I'm in the same position as your with little read on the players, so I would fold.
  • Come in raising... Get people out of the pot. Normally that would be a very nice flop for 8's but with so many other people in the pot you can't rule out trips... I'd have raised pre flop and continued raising with that flop.
  • Looks standard to me. You could also raise preflop to try to isolate the limper who probably has a pretty random hand this early, I'm cool with either. Flop seems like a pretty good fold no point getting involved here.
  • I would certainly raise later, when the blinds are worth it, but a this point I don't want to commit that many chips with 88. It turns out the winning hand was 99, so I made a good fold on the flop. Last year I would have probably pushed the flop, so I am happy that these types of laydowns are becoming routine. It is so easy to go into "autopilot" while playing online. I always have to remind myself to take a second and analyze the situation.
  • I haven't looked at any replies, or the results, and will go through this Dave Scharf style.
    Irah wrote:

    PokerStars Game #4893378449: Tournament #24520486, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/05/10 - 18:56:35 (ET)
    Table '24520486 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Earp (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: mwplaya (1450 in chips)
    Seat 3: gisborne (1470 in chips)
    Seat 4: SamENoles#1 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 5: ryliefan (1460 in chips)
    Seat 6: don060243 (1550 in chips)
    Seat 7: Milehighrr (1620 in chips)
    Seat 8: jdi411 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: lowjid322 (1480 in chips)

    Beginning of SNG, we all have around our starting stacks, I don't want to play big pot poker unless I have a monster.  I want to see flops cheaply, and fold quickly.  Build slowly, survive, prepare for the blind increases and make sure I'm ready.
    Milehighrr: posts small blind 10
    jdi411: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to SamENoles#1 b]8s 8d[/b
    lowjid322: calls 20
    Earp: folds
    mwplaya: folds
    gisborne: folds
    SamENoles#1: calls 20
    ryliefan: folds
    don060243: folds
    Milehighrr: raises 40 to 60
    jdi411: calls 40
    lowjid322: calls 40
    SamENoles#1: calls 40

    After one limper, I raise to 80 in your position.  The small blind may or may not have re-raised if you had done this, who knows.

    As you played it:

    You limp, the small blind raises.  SB raises are scary, but he doesn't raise enough to get the pot uncontested preflop, or even to get it heads-up.  We can assume this is deliberate... he wants a multi-way pot.  I put him on AK or AQ.  BB calls (would be scary, but really, 4 players, 40 more to call, etc. a LOT of hands call in that spot for so few of their chips and big implied odds.)

    UTG calls and you just call.  Given that you didn't raise it up at your first opportunity, I think just calling here is fine.  You don't want to open the door to a re-re-raise if you re-raise, and you wouldn't limp/re-raise aces or kings from that position after one limper, so your opponents won't buy that.  Just calling here is fine.
    *** FLOP *** [4c 6s 4h]
    Milehighrr: bets 80
    jdi411: raises 180 to 260
    lowjid322: folds
    SamENoles#1: folds
    Milehighrr: calls 180

    ALARM.  The blinds are going at it on a 464 flop.  The BB is probably not making a play here, because the SB raised preflop which is scary, unless he, like you, has put the SB on AK or AQ.  It's not worth it.  You've only invested 60 chips in this pot, and the blinds are making it big pot poker on a paired board.  Your hand might be the best, but it's really not worth it to find out.  Fold, and wait for a better spot.

    Would any of this have been different if you had raised preflop at your first opportunity... to 80?  Who knows.
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