Exposed hand rule...

MrChips17MrChips17
in General Poker Chat
Hi Folks,

Quick question for you guys...What is the official rule regarding an exposed hand during play. Las night I was playing a home tourney and this situation came up...

After the flop, player 1 makes a big bet, player 2 folds, and player 1 flips over her cards showing player 2 that she wasn't bluffing. Meanwhile, I'm still in the hand, waiting to act after player 2 folded. Player one didn't realize i was still in the hand...

Now, I've seen the exposed hand be counted as a dead hand, I've seen the player been given a time penalty in a tourney, and I've also seen the game continue as if nothing happened, so what is the official rule???


Thanks,

MrChips

Comments

  • STR82ACESTR82ACE
    According to Roberts Rules, the player may be penalized, but his/her hand NOT ruled dead.

    However, in my own league game, as well as other games I play in fairly regularily, the rule is the hand is ruled dead. It depends on the particular rules you play by, either strictly Roberts, or house rules loosely based on Roberts.
  • stpboystpboy
    Ok, I have another question regarding exposed hands. When folding (on the turn), a player throws his cards into the muck. Another player who is not in the hand sees a flash of one of the cards and correctly recognizes it. He announces that he has seen it, does the rest of the table then get to flip over that card?

    stp
  • QueenNineQueenNine
    That player is not in the hand, therefore his knowledge of the exposed card is irrelevant.
  • Flint BonesFlint Bones
    When Heads Up exposing your cards varies from place to place. Make a rule and stick to it. For that hand, I am sure you're glad she exposed them.
  • beanie42beanie42
    stpboy wrote:
    Ok, I have another question regarding exposed hands. When folding (on the turn), a player throws his cards into the muck. Another player who is not in the hand sees a flash of one of the cards and correctly recognizes it. He announces that he has seen it, does the rest of the table then get to flip over that card?
    MDSGuy wrote:
    That player is not in the hand, therefore his knowledge of the exposed card is irrelevant.
    The fact that they aren't in the hand is irrelevant, otherwise the "show one, show all" rule after a hand would be pointless, since nobody is in a hand. The player who sees the card has an advantage by knowing what it is.

    I couldn't find anything specific for this situation other than the traditional "show one, show all" rule. If it were me, I think it comes down to "protecting your hand" and TD discretion, since you are responsible for getting your hand in the muck "safely". Some players will turn there hand sideways and toss it in the muck, clearly showing the cards to some while mucking. I think this form of mucking should fall under the "show one, show all".

    That said, I think an observant player will often see flashes of cards, which they may or may not correctly identify. If they didn't correctly identify it, revealing it "fixes" their thinking (otherwise they will believe you had a different holding).

    I think it all comes down to intent, and whether you were intending to expose the hand or not.
  • MrChips17MrChips17
    Flint Bones wrote:
    When Heads Up exposing your cards varies from place to place. Make a rule and stick to it. For that hand, I am sure you're glad she exposed them.

    Wow, nice read! I was glad she flipped them over, she flopped a broadway str8 with KQo.

    Thanks for all the answers.

    MrChips
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