Can someone tell me what I did wrong here?

djalikool

#Game No : 4100659545
***** Hand History for Game 4100659545 *****
$0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, April 26, 17:34:49 ET 2006
Table Tree Lover (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: paulscall ( $37 )
Seat 2: Buria13 ( $15.75 )
Seat 4: AG4U2NVY ( $9 )
Seat 6: mincis ( $45.25 )
Seat 5: DomN8ur ( $28.25 )
DomN8ur posts small blind [$0.25].
mincis posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AG4U2NVY [ Ad 4s ]
paulscall folds.
Buria13 folds.
AG4U2NVY calls [$0.50].
DomN8ur calls [$0.25].
mincis raises [$0.50].
AG4U2NVY calls [$0.50].
DomN8ur calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 4c, 4h ]
DomN8ur checks.
mincis bets [$0.50].
AG4U2NVY calls [$0.50].
DomN8ur folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
mincis bets [$1].
AG4U2NVY raises [$2].
mincis raises [$2].
AG4U2NVY raises [$2].
mincis calls [$1].
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
mincis bets [$1].
AG4U2NVY raises [$2].
mincis raises [$2].
AG4U2NVY is all-In [$1.50]
mincis calls [$0.50].
mincis shows [ 9s, 9d ] a full house, Nines full of fours.
AG4U2NVY doesn't show [ Ad, 4s ] a full house, Fours full of aces.
mincis wins $18.25 from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of fours.

Was this one of those internet hands where I get trapped?
Would you guys fold at any point, other then pre-flop?

Irah

Besides not having enough chips in play, no you did nothing wrong. This is not "one of those internet hands where you got trapped". You were simply unlucky to run into a bigger full house.

D3scride

Er he played the hand wrong by limping ace rag unsuited UTG..

Irah

djalikool wrote:

Would you guys fold at any point, other then pre-flop?

I had assumed he new this was a mistake already. If not. YES, you should fold preflop.

Metro

You limped with A4 and called a raise.

The cards were just unlucky there - I dont think many players are getting away from the A4 with two 4s on the flop.

My question is how were you going to play the flop if an Ace came?

Generally A4o isnt even playable. I will throw in a raise with this hand from late position if its folded to me - but thats about it.

Also - with regards to how much money you had - people may not see you as much of a threat - they know what you hold is the most they can lose and also that you may be betting out of desperation. Dont let yourself fall too far below the $25 buy-in.

GTA Poker

Obviously not many 5 handed limit players on the forum. I would raise that hand UTG 5 handed and raise the flop as noone will believe you have the 4. I hardly ever open limp in any posiition in a limit 5 handed table. When you get popped back on the turn you can't get away from your hand 5 handed in a limit game. How much you lose depends on your read of the player -- ie -- is he generally very tight/passive, folding his sb in an unraised pot, check folding alot on the flop even as a preflop raiser, etc. If he is a fairly tight low limit player as is typical at .5/1 then I only lose 1 bet on the river.

djalikool

thanks for the advise guys, will know for next time..

GTA Poker

TNORTH wrote:

You limped with A4 and called a raise.

The cards were just unlucky there - I dont think many players are getting away from the A4 with two 4s on the flop.

My question is how were you going to play the flop if an Ace came?

Generally A4o isnt even playable. I will throw in a raise with this hand from late position if its folded to me - but thats about it.

Also - with regards to how much money you had - people may not see you as much of a threat - they know what you hold is the most they can lose and also that you may be betting out of desperation. Dont let yourself fall too far below the $25 buy-in.

UTG is LP 5 handed

Metro

GTA - I have never played the short handed limit games - Is it common to play any ace?

I have heard they are profitable - but have stuck to the 10 handed games.

SirWatts

Raising A4o UTG is a bit too loose 5-handed imo.  I won't argue against opening from the CO but even that is borderline.  So yeah fold preflop.  Otherwise I agree with playing it fast on the flop.

Pinhead

djalikool wrote:

Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: paulscall ( $37 )
Seat 2: Buria13 ( $15.75 )
Seat 4: AG4U2NVY ( $9 )
Seat 6: mincis ( $45.25 )
Seat 5: DomN8ur ( $28.25 )
DomN8ur posts small blind [$0.25].
mincis posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AG4U2NVY [  Ad 4s ]
paulscall folds.
Buria13 folds.
AG4U2NVY calls [$0.50].
DomN8ur calls [$0.25].
mincis raises [$0.50].
AG4U2NVY calls [$0.50].
DomN8ur calls [$0.50].

We're not talking about UTG here guys, or even the CO. Hero is the Button
If you want to fold A4 on the button when it is folded to you 5 handed, you are
giving away money.

This time you were unlucky and ran into a better hand and made a slightly smaller monster.
You're not folding, and maybe you can save a river bet or 2 after the turn cap but at small stakes
you're going to see a wide range of hands played that way (not just a bigger full house)

djalikool

As soon as the Ace fell on the river, I thought I was golden!...444AA...How could I lose...never thought of pocket 9's to beat me!
I thought this guy was just taking advantage of me, cuz i was short stacked, and he wanted to see what I had.

SirWatts

Oh yeah raise on the button all day.

Also, don't 4-table and post on forums at 4am while watching sportscentre.

Metro

You getting taken there Sir?

I am up $300 just playing a single 2/4 table.

I want to go to bed - but you know when you get those players who cant lay down middle pair and always jam when they hit big - so you just cant leave?


That is where I am now.

STR82ACE

Fold preflop.

Big E

D3scride wrote:

Er he played the hand wrong by limping ace rag unsuited UTG..

absolutely agree, that was your mistake!

once you made that error and the flop came with two 4's you're not getting away from it.

ScoobyD

Quote from: D3scride on Today at 01:32:04 AM
Er he played the hand wrong by limping ace rag unsuited UTG..

Just to re-iterate what a few others have said:

Hero is the BUTTON, not UTG.

And I agree the biggest mistake is preflop. Fold or raise, but don't limp. I think I prefer raising.

moose

Dave Scharf wrote:

My short handed starting hand, Plan "A"

If first in, or limped to me:

(1) Raise with any pair, any suited ace, any two suited cards if both are above 7 (eg Q-7s and 8-7s are both raising hands)

(2) Call with any ace, any two cards if both are above 9 (eg K-9o and T-9o).

If there is a raise, tighten up A LOT.

On the flop

(1) Against only one opponent, ALWAYS bet.

(2) Against two opponents semi-bluff draws and bet with any ace

(3) Against three or more opponents... bet if you think you have the best hand.

And... measure your hand from this point according to the betting progression against your opponents.

I like lots of loose passives. Yummy.

Good advice that always seems to work well for me.

pkrfce9

you should have more chips at the table
raise pre-flop
raise the flop

would not have changed the results, I assume. just bad luck