Brutality of RiverStars
These both happened in little $3 turbo SnG's this morning (afternoon same thing)
PokerStars Game #4612746640: Tournament #23007909, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit
- Level II (15/30) - 2006/04/13 - 14:01:19 (ET)
Table '23007909 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Bumper270 (1710 in chips)
Seat 2: z'smom (1410 in chips)
Seat 4: Jaded68 (1440 in chips)
Seat 5: escobar420 (1450 in chips)
Seat 6: thebigugs (490 in chips)
Seat 7: giggy856 (1520 in chips)
Seat 8: atsa111 (3770 in chips)
Seat 9: DirkDynamite (1620 in chips)
Seat 10: geezz (1590 in chips)
geezz: posts small blind 15
Bumper270: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thebigugs [8s 8h]
z'smom: calls 30
Jaded68: calls 30
escobar420: folds
thebigugs: raises 90 to 120
giggy856: folds
atsa111: folds
DirkDynamite: folds
geezz: folds
Bumper270: folds
z'smom: folds
Jaded68: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [9s Qs 9c]
Jaded68: checks
thebigugs: checks
*** TURN *** [9s Qs 9c] [7c]
Jaded68: checks
thebigugs: bets 370 and is all-in
Jaded68: calls 370
*** RIVER *** [9s Qs 9c 7c] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jaded68: shows [7d As] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
thebigugs: shows [8s 8h] (two pair, Queens and Nines - lower kicker)
Jaded68 collected 1055 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1055 | Rake 0
Board [9s Qs 9c 7c Qh]
Seat 1: Bumper270 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: z'smom folded before Flop
Seat 4: Jaded68 showed [7d As] and won (1055) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 5: escobar420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: thebigugs showed [8s 8h] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 7: giggy856 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: atsa111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: DirkDynamite (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: geezz (small blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #4612588918: Tournament #23007308, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit
- Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/13 - 13:35:52 (ET)
Table '23007308 1' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ptsant5 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: JW32 (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: lil_Gaz (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: the_shark990 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: JW DIAMOND (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: nail10 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: superew (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: BILLYCOSI (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: thebigugs (1500 in chips)
Seat 10: anaconda06 (1500 in chips)
JW32: posts small blind 10
lil_Gaz: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thebigugs [4c 5d]
the_shark990: folds
JW DIAMOND: calls 20
nail10 has timed out
nail10: folds
nail10 is sitting out
superew: folds
BILLYCOSI: calls 20
thebigugs: calls 20
anaconda06: folds
ptsant5: folds
JW32: calls 10
lil_Gaz: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 7d 3d]
JW32: checks
lil_Gaz: checks
JW DIAMOND: bets 100
BILLYCOSI: folds
thebigugs: raises 300 to 400
JW32: folds
lil_Gaz: folds
JW DIAMOND: calls 300
*** TURN *** [6c 7d 3d] [Ks]
JW DIAMOND: bets 1060
nail10 has returned
thebigugs: raises 20 to 1080 and is all-in
JW DIAMOND: calls 20 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6c 7d 3d Ks] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JW DIAMOND: shows [6d Kd] (a full house, Sixes full of Kings)
thebigugs: shows [4c 5d] (a straight, Three to Seven)
JW DIAMOND collected 3060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3060 | Rake 0
Board [6c 7d 3d Ks 6s]
Seat 1: ptsant5 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: JW32 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: lil_Gaz (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: the_shark990 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JW DIAMOND showed [6d Kd] and won (3060) with a full house, Sixes full
of Kings
Seat 6: nail10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: superew folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BILLYCOSI folded on the Flop
Seat 9: thebigugs showed [4c 5d] and lost with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 10: anaconda06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
PokerStars Game #4612746640: Tournament #23007909, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit
- Level II (15/30) - 2006/04/13 - 14:01:19 (ET)
Table '23007909 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Bumper270 (1710 in chips)
Seat 2: z'smom (1410 in chips)
Seat 4: Jaded68 (1440 in chips)
Seat 5: escobar420 (1450 in chips)
Seat 6: thebigugs (490 in chips)
Seat 7: giggy856 (1520 in chips)
Seat 8: atsa111 (3770 in chips)
Seat 9: DirkDynamite (1620 in chips)
Seat 10: geezz (1590 in chips)
geezz: posts small blind 15
Bumper270: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thebigugs [8s 8h]
z'smom: calls 30
Jaded68: calls 30
escobar420: folds
thebigugs: raises 90 to 120
giggy856: folds
atsa111: folds
DirkDynamite: folds
geezz: folds
Bumper270: folds
z'smom: folds
Jaded68: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [9s Qs 9c]
Jaded68: checks
thebigugs: checks
*** TURN *** [9s Qs 9c] [7c]
Jaded68: checks
thebigugs: bets 370 and is all-in
Jaded68: calls 370
*** RIVER *** [9s Qs 9c 7c] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jaded68: shows [7d As] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
thebigugs: shows [8s 8h] (two pair, Queens and Nines - lower kicker)
Jaded68 collected 1055 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1055 | Rake 0
Board [9s Qs 9c 7c Qh]
Seat 1: Bumper270 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: z'smom folded before Flop
Seat 4: Jaded68 showed [7d As] and won (1055) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 5: escobar420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: thebigugs showed [8s 8h] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 7: giggy856 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: atsa111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: DirkDynamite (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: geezz (small blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #4612588918: Tournament #23007308, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit
- Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/13 - 13:35:52 (ET)
Table '23007308 1' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ptsant5 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: JW32 (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: lil_Gaz (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: the_shark990 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: JW DIAMOND (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: nail10 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: superew (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: BILLYCOSI (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: thebigugs (1500 in chips)
Seat 10: anaconda06 (1500 in chips)
JW32: posts small blind 10
lil_Gaz: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thebigugs [4c 5d]
the_shark990: folds
JW DIAMOND: calls 20
nail10 has timed out
nail10: folds
nail10 is sitting out
superew: folds
BILLYCOSI: calls 20
thebigugs: calls 20
anaconda06: folds
ptsant5: folds
JW32: calls 10
lil_Gaz: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 7d 3d]
JW32: checks
lil_Gaz: checks
JW DIAMOND: bets 100
BILLYCOSI: folds
thebigugs: raises 300 to 400
JW32: folds
lil_Gaz: folds
JW DIAMOND: calls 300
*** TURN *** [6c 7d 3d] [Ks]
JW DIAMOND: bets 1060
nail10 has returned
thebigugs: raises 20 to 1080 and is all-in
JW DIAMOND: calls 20 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6c 7d 3d Ks] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JW DIAMOND: shows [6d Kd] (a full house, Sixes full of Kings)
thebigugs: shows [4c 5d] (a straight, Three to Seven)
JW DIAMOND collected 3060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3060 | Rake 0
Board [6c 7d 3d Ks 6s]
Seat 1: ptsant5 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: JW32 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: lil_Gaz (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: the_shark990 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JW DIAMOND showed [6d Kd] and won (3060) with a full house, Sixes full
of Kings
Seat 6: nail10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: superew folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BILLYCOSI folded on the Flop
Seat 9: thebigugs showed [4c 5d] and lost with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 10: anaconda06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Comments
There's your answer!
but i want these calls i just dont want the river to come that way
oh here's another, almost forgot
PokerStars Game #4612665042: Tournament #23007426, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit
- Level II (15/30) - 2006/04/13 - 13:48:15 (ET)
Table '23007426 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: thebigugs (1210 in chips)
Seat 2: killglance (2645 in chips)
Seat 3: BGHLyle (660 in chips)
Seat 4: cadester (2000 in chips)
Seat 5: choctaw68 (1930 in chips)
Seat 6: Grintear (1460 in chips)
Seat 7: giggy856 (700 in chips)
Seat 8: Gex9d (1085 in chips)
Seat 9: Manu1827 (1455 in chips)
Seat 10: RDMNWEEEP (1855 in chips)
RDMNWEEEP: posts small blind 15
thebigugs: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thebigugs
killglance: folds
BGHLyle: folds
cadester: calls 30
choctaw68: folds
Grintear: folds
giggy856: folds
Gex9d: calls 30
Manu1827: folds
RDMNWEEEP: calls 15
thebigugs: raises 90 to 120
cadester: folds
Gex9d: calls 90
RDMNWEEEP: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [Ac Js Ad]
RDMNWEEEP: bets 30
thebigugs: calls 30
Gex9d: raises 180 to 210
RDMNWEEEP: folds
thebigugs: raises 880 to 1090 and is all-in
Gex9d: calls 755 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Ac Js Ad] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Ac Js Ad 7c] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thebigugs: shows (three of a kind, Aces)
Gex9d: shows [As 5h] (a full house, Aces full of Fives)
Gex9d collected 2350 from pot
Gex9d said, "omg fished"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2350 | Rake 0
Board [Ac Js Ad 7c 5s]
Seat 1: thebigugs (big blind) showed and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: killglance folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: BGHLyle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cadester folded before Flop
Seat 5: choctaw68 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Grintear folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: giggy856 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Gex9d showed [As 5h] and won (2350) with a full house, Aces full of
Fives
Seat 9: Manu1827 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: RDMNWEEEP (small blind) folded on the Flop
Flop AK5 ranbow...I bet, am raised, we cap, turn a 4. I bet and am called. River a 3, I bet and am raised? hmmmm A2, he can't be on A2?
I call, he flips over A2o for the pot.
Low Limit Hold'em is brutal for people playing A-rag, they suck....but, I've learned now not to freak out. I just added a note to this player and will look for him in the future...I want him chasing that straight every time, I'll get my money back from him!!!
I really don't think either call is that bad of a call. Hand 1 given your chip stack I don't think it's terrible and I think you played it too weak, I would have pushed pre-flop and most definitely on the flop but he likely calls either way?
The second hand I think the post flop call could be debated, however so could your pre-flop call I mean seriously 45 offsuit, yuck!!! Even though the flop hit you hard what do you think your opponents put you on, definitely not 45!!!!! That said I'd likely fold the post flop bet because I am weak tight but I think some could argue it was ok, once the turn comes all his chips are going in.
Final table of a 11 turbo double shootout to the 215:
PokerStars Game #4608270329: Tournament #22920735, Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level IV (50/100) - 2006/04/12 - 23:19:08 (ET)
Table '22920735 1' 8-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: ptown40z (1405 in chips)
Seat 2: baybii-gaL (2120 in chips)
Seat 4: ThePlumps (2695 in chips)
Seat 5: Oni5000 (2110 in chips)
Seat 7: yobeach (2540 in chips)
Seat 8: BillyTheK (1130 in chips)
ThePlumps: posts small blind 50
Oni5000: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Oni5000 [Ad As]
yobeach: folds
BillyTheK: folds
ptown40z: folds
baybii-gaL: calls 100
ThePlumps: folds
Oni5000: raises 200 to 300
baybii-gaL: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [Qh Js 5h]
Oni5000: bets 400
baybii-gaL: raises 400 to 800
Oni5000: raises 1010 to 1810 and is all-in
baybii-gaL: calls 1010
*** TURN *** [Qh Js 5h] [Ah]
*** RIVER *** [Qh Js 5h Ah] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Oni5000: shows [Ad As] (three of a kind, Aces)
baybii-gaL: shows [Jd 7h] (a flush, Ace high)
baybii-gaL collected 4270 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4270 | Rake 0
Board [Qh Js 5h Ah 6h]
Seat 1: ptown40z folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: baybii-gaL (button) showed [Jd 7h] and won (4270) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: ThePlumps (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Oni5000 (big blind) showed [Ad As] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 7: yobeach folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BillyTheK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I had a pain in my gut as soon as I saw the turn.
Try beting beat by 1-2 outs like the rest of us have.
Beat # 1....Bet the damm flop because by checking he then thinks his 7 is good.
Beat # 2...fold the damm hand pre flop and you won't get in trouble with it.
PokerStars Game #4643287014: Tournament #23172527, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/04/16 - 10:23:59 (ET)
Table '23172527 1' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: Homerbuddy (910 in chips)
Seat 4: bosoxwin (1952 in chips)
Seat 5: xhanen (970 in chips)
Seat 6: BrianRAJ (1592 in chips)
Seat 8: sisilabelle (4280 in chips)
Seat 9: i-b-pokin' (2381 in chips)
Seat 10: Walikng (2915 in chips)
bosoxwin: posts small blind 100
xhanen: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Homerbuddy [Kd Ks]
BrianRAJ: folds
sisilabelle: calls 200
i-b-pokin': folds
Walikng: folds
Homerbuddy: raises 710 to 910 and is all-in
bosoxwin: folds
xhanen: raises 60 to 970 and is all-in
sisilabelle: calls 770
*** FLOP *** [Ts Qc 7c]
*** TURN *** [Ts Qc 7c] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [Ts Qc 7c Jd] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xhanen: shows [Kc Js] (a pair of Jacks)
sisilabelle: shows [8c 8s] (three of a kind, Eights)
sisilabelle collected 120 from side pot
Homerbuddy: shows [Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)
sisilabelle collected 2830 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2950 Main pot 2830. Side pot 120. | Rake 0
Board [Ts Qc 7c Jd 8h]
Seat 3: Homerbuddy (button) showed [Kd Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: bosoxwin (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: xhanen (big blind) showed [Kc Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 6: BrianRAJ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: sisilabelle showed [8c 8s] and won (2950) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 9: i-b-pokin' folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Walikng folded before Flop (didn't bet)