playing a middle pair

specialKspecialK
in Brags, Beats & Variance
This is a hand from the currrent 5+R on stars. I would classify this player as a LAG, he was limping in or raising every pot... this is one of those brainfarts for me and i just wasn't with it in this one... please tell me what happen any additional thoughts/analysis appreciated. This is after the rebuy period if that has any bearing on your response.

PokerStars Game #4596405153: Tournament #22780361, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/04/11 - 20:11:31 (ET)
Table '22780361 15' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Blumfeld (23575 in chips)
Seat 2: vas310 (14735 in chips)
Seat 3: thebigugs (43610 in chips)
Seat 4: JRJ69 (13895 in chips)
Seat 5: trinbago (24357 in chips)
Seat 6: L. Durrell (16205 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: 36crazyfists (15710 in chips)
Seat 8: gavros33 (42990 in chips)
Seat 9: TYRUS4 (13720 in chips)
Blumfeld: posts the ante 25
vas310: posts the ante 25
thebigugs: posts the ante 25
JRJ69: posts the ante 25
trinbago: posts the ante 25
L. Durrell: posts the ante 25
36crazyfists: posts the ante 25
gavros33: posts the ante 25
TYRUS4: posts the ante 25
thebigugs: posts small blind 100
JRJ69: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thebigugs [9h 9d]
trinbago: folds
L. Durrell: folds
L. Durrell has returned
36crazyfists: folds
gavros33: raises 1400 to 1600
TYRUS4: folds
Blumfeld: folds
vas310: folds
thebigugs: calls 1500
JRJ69: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 4d 7h]
thebigugs: checks --- wanted to CR here, but he didn't con't bet...
gavros33: checks
*** TURN *** [4s 4d 7h] [5h]
thebigugs: bets 2200
gavros33: calls 2200
*** RIVER *** [4s 4d 7h 5h] [Ah]
thebigugs: checks
gavros33: bets 4800

what is your move here?

Comments

  • pkrfce9pkrfce9
    Fold. He's milking you.
  • SirWattsSirWatts
    Everything just got there so fold, and you should probably fold preflop though you're deep enough that this isn't terrible. gavros isn't a donk though, he's got you here.
  • ChrisWinsorChrisWinsor
    fold, at least hit the ace. Question, 100-200 blinds and you have 40k? howd that happen. Also bizzare raise pre flop, seems like a noob playing a high pocket pair.
  • specialKspecialK
    ChrisWinsor wrote:
    fold, at least hit the ace. Question, 100-200 blinds and you have 40k? howd that happen. Also bizzare raise pre flop, seems like a noob playing a high pocket pair.

    first off, it's a rebuy tourney so that's why the chips are deep... villain is not a noob... i put him on AK or AQ, and did fold to the river bet
  • stpboystpboy
    I would have considered raising him preflop with 99. I also think the 'typical' CR on the flop is something that isn't new and is IMO a bit to cute for a hand that is only somewhat strong against the other chip leader at the table.
    I would have bet the river, likely the same bet or a somewhat larger bet. Checking is a bit to weak for me.

    stp
  • Dave ScharfDave Scharf
    Trying to catch up...
    Dealt to thebigugs [9h 9d]

    In the small blind.
    trinbago: folds
    L. Durrell: folds
    L. Durrell has returned
    36crazyfists: folds
    gavros33: raises 1400 to 1600
    TYRUS4: folds
    Blumfeld: folds
    vas310: folds
    thebigugs: calls 1500
    JRJ69: folds

    I have no problem so far. I like the play. Out of position with a small pair but BIG implied odds... take off the flop.
    *** FLOP *** [4s 4d 7h]
    thebigugs: checks --- wanted to CR here, but he didn't con't bet...
    gavros33: checks

    I prefer to bet out. C/R is over rated in big bet poker. Be that as it may...
    *** TURN *** [4s 4d 7h] [5h]
    thebigugs: bets 2200
    gavros33: calls 2200

    There is 3725 in the pot. I think your bet is about right.
    *** RIVER *** [4s 4d 7h 5h] [Ah]
    thebigugs: checks
    gavros33: bets 4800

    what is your move here?

    Fold. What did he call with on the turn? A heart draw or an ace seem very likely. If you are willing to call 4800 (you think this player is that tricky) then bet out 3000 instead.
  • specialKspecialK
    Dave, do you ever reply to posts in the online section? i would be interested to see some of your thoughts on other hands that i have posted there.
  • Dave ScharfDave Scharf
    Occasionally.

    I have been WAY behind on a lot of things because of the Global show. That is now, however, over and I should be able to keep up here a little better.
  • specialKspecialK
    great, I was just curous because i haven't really seen many posts by you in the online section and when posting the hands i wasn't sure whether or not to post them here or there. to save you time the hand i'm most concerned with that has been stuck in my head is a thred called "Agonizing BB Hand." if you ever get any time... thanks Dave, your insight is much appreciated.
  • MeistroMeistro
    Bet the flop, check raising builds a huge pot out of position with a relatively weak holding. Fold the river as played.
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