How many outs do I have on after the turn? Little Test :o)

TigerscottTigerscott
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PokerStars Game #4505264607: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/04/03 - 02:13:10 (ET)
Table 'Juno V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Hhammer84 ($221.35 in chips)
Seat 3: player5 ($117 in chips)
Seat 4: Reinders99 ($401.80 in chips)
Seat 5: Tigerscott ($201 in chips)
Tigerscott: posts small blind $1
Hhammer84: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tigerscott [4c Qc]
player5: folds
Reinders99: folds
Tigerscott: calls $1
easymuuney16 joins the table at seat #6
Hhammer84: checks
*** FLOP *** [Tc Kc 4h]
Tigerscott: checks
Hhammer84: checks
*** TURN *** [Tc Kc 4h] [Js]
Tigerscott: bets $4
Hhammer84: calls $4

Comments

  • T_MacT_Mac
    zero
  • MickeyHoldemMickeyHoldem
    Atleast 1... no more than 46 ;)
  • HobbesHobbes
    Not sure what type of player this is. His check says maybe he's holding Q/9.
    Doubt if he has A/Q or a pocket pair to match the board.

    Assuming that you need 3-of-a-kind or better - 17 outs.

    9 to complete your club flush.

    3 - 9's (9c included above) to complete your straight (bad end though)
    3 - A's (Ac included above) to complete your staight.
    2 - 4's for 3-of-a-kind (but that could be dangerous)

    Guess that's somewhere btwn 1 and 46.....
  • stpboystpboy
    Outs that you can most likely count on you winning the pot, I'd say 13. The 9 clubs and the four aces.

    stp
  • HobbesHobbes
    stpboy wrote:
    Outs that you can most likely count on you winning the pot, I'd say 13.  The 9 clubs and the four aces.

    stp

    That's actually 12 outs. You double counted the  :ac

    Hobbes
  • stpboystpboy
    Yes, you are correct! So perhaps the other two fours could be in there too, trips should be good with the way this hand has been played thus far...Lets hope he doesnt have something like AJc
  • TigerscottTigerscott
    wow

    here's how I see it:

    Any Queen any 4 and any club any 9 and any Ace=  3 queens, 2 fours, 8 clubs, 3 nines, 3 Aces ==== 19 outs!

    This is short hand ! he checked PF and on Flop I don't put him on Ace anything.. not even worried about the King here.... I believe all my outs to be live outs.

    here's the results:

    *** RIVER *** [Tc Kc 4h Js] [4d]
    Tigerscott: bets $8
    Hhammer84: calls $8
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Tigerscott: shows [4c Qc] (three of a kind, Fours)
    Hhammer84: mucks hand
    Tigerscott collected $26.65 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $28 | Rake $1.35
    Board [Tc Kc 4h Js 4d]
    Seat 1: Hhammer84 (big blind) mucked [7h Kd]
    Seat 3: player5 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Reinders99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Tigerscott (small blind) showed [4c Qc] and won ($26.65) with three of a kind, Fours
  • SoupSoup
    Ya I don't see how you can put him on a big hand the way it played out, I'd say all outs were all live. Someone suggests a set...thats one ugly way to play a set.
  • specialKspecialK
    Tigerscott wrote:
    wow

    here's how I see it:

    Any Queen any 4 and any club any 9 and any Ace= 3 queens, 2 fours, 8 clubs, 3 nines, 3 Aces ==== 19 outs!

    This is short hand ! he checked PF and on Flop I don't put him on Ace anything.. not even worried about the King here.... I believe all my outs to be live outs.

    here's the results:

    *** RIVER *** [Tc Kc 4h Js] [4d]
    Tigerscott: bets $8
    Hhammer84: calls $8
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Tigerscott: shows [4c Qc] (three of a kind, Fours)
    Hhammer84: mucks hand
    Tigerscott collected $26.65 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $28 | Rake $1.35
    Board [Tc Kc 4h Js 4d]
    Seat 1: Hhammer84 (big blind) mucked [7h Kd]
    Seat 3: player5 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Reinders99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Tigerscott (small blind) showed [4c Qc] and won ($26.65) with three of a kind, Fours

    so you actually had 20 outs... who knew, i would have said you had 17 before knowing what the guy had....
  • HobbesHobbes
    How'd I miss the Q's.... :D

    Must be the whole daylight saving time thing. LOL

    Hobbes
  • TigerscottTigerscott
    19 outs!!
  • MeistroMeistro
    I would raise a little more preflop, but $6 isn't too bad. As played the flop is an insta call, but I would bet more on the flop. When you have A10 you will want to be betting full pot to charge draws properly, so you must disguise your full pot bets by playing your big draws / sets the same way, otherwise your opponents will always know what you have.
  • TigerscottTigerscott
    Meistro wrote:
    I would raise a little more preflop, but $6 isn't too bad.  As played the flop is an insta call, but I would bet more on the flop.  When you have A10 you will want to be betting full pot to charge draws properly, so you must disguise your full pot bets by playing your big draws / sets the same way, otherwise your opponents will always know what you have.
    What are you talking about?
    Preflop I had Q4s
    Flop I have bottom pair with flush draw but he has position so I checked.
    Turn I got a ton more outs so I bet pot
    River I made trips but there is chance for a str8 so I thought 8$ to be a good bet.. Pretty sure i'm ahead and if I bet any more he folds.
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