I've never seen an actor so overplay his character in my life plus he looked nothing like TJ.
My favourite part I think was when "TJ" is in a big pot with the writer and he yells/growls  "I RAISE!!!", while leaning over the table, looking like he's going to rip the guy apart, WWF style.  All he needed was one of those yellow tearaway Hulkamania shirts and he could have been Hulk Hogan... Â
Unbelievably bad. If you listen closely, I'm almost certain you're able to hear a producer saying: "I think we need our TJ to be ANGRIER. He's playing POKER. He should be ANGRY, and INTENSE. Isn't that how poker players are? I don't play, but my nephew does. Wait a sec, I'll give him a call. (............) OK. He says that poker players are ANGRY. And INTENSE. So let's try that again."
I was actually searching for something else and this thread caught my eye.
So what happened pokerdro? Did your craps throwing work on your next trip?
My argument for this would be: if MLB pitchers can throw a ball in nearly the same spot, day in/day out, for years, then why not dice? Pitchers throw in such a way as to get rotation, speed and trajectory perfect, nearly every time they throw, so again, why not dice?
I was actually searching for something else and this thread caught my eye.
So what happened pokerdro? Did your craps throwing work on your next trip?
My argument for this would be: if MLB pitchers can throw a ball in nearly the same spot, day in/day out, for years, then why not dice? Pitchers throw in such a way as to get rotation, speed and trajectory perfect, nearly every time they throw, so again, why not dice?
Because the dice have to hit the table top, then a pointed back wall before it is a legal throw. The pointed padded wall is designed to change the outcome. Pitchers om baseball have no such priameters to contend with.
Spidey I did try it again on my next trip to Vegas and it was some of the worst dice results you can imagine. I Didn't follow the "system" 100% thou. It may give you a slight advantage over a total random thrower but not one that will give you an advantage over the house.
Because the dice have to hit the table top, then a pointed back wall before it is a legal throw. The pointed padded wall is designed to change the outcome. Pitchers om baseball have no such priameters to contend with.
Prophet 22
Actually they do. The equivalent in baseball would be to mark an X on the ball and be able to control the ball such that when the bat came into contact with the ball, it hit the X every time. Good luck with that.
As Prophet says, the purpose of the rubber wall is to randomize the fall of the dice.
I am not recommending the book or anything.... Just showing you all that some people are convinced there is an acheiveable edge. Or maybe they just want to sell books. :-)
I am not recommending the book or anything.... Just showing you all that some people are convinced there is an acheiveable edge. Or maybe they just want to sell books. :-)
lol
Maybe.
And yes, I understand the rules of craps. I've played live and online and I actually can consistenly beat the house playing with a partner. Unfortunately, my partner moved back to Edmonton (the dumb bugger) and I have yet to find a new partner to play with. If you stick to the system (not mine, but one I learned) you get a decent edge over the house. Out of 20 sessions we would lose one, maybe. We kept records and I would say it was probably 1 loss in 25 sessions, but to be sure I would have to dig it up. And that loss would always be small because of a tight stop-loss system. The next time we went we would double our bets, erasing all loses from the previous session and then making a nice profit. We never had 2 losing sessions in a row. We kept our wins nice and small so as to not generate too much negative interest from the casinos, but they were consistent gains.
Anyways, my point about the pitchers was that they throw it the same nearly every time. Look at a MLB pitcher and watch how he sets the ball in his hand for different pitches. Watch how his arm drops for different pitches. And watch how his hand twists to get different rotations for different pitches. It's actually quite a complex system, but after years of practice, it can be done consistently to throw that ball into a spot about 3 sq. ft.
If a person can set the die in their hand, throw it consistenly so they bounce and hit nearly the same spots nearly every time, why is it so impossible to believe that it can be done? I'm playing devil's advocate here ... I am just throwing some arguments out there ... why CAN'T it happen?
And yes, I understand the rules of craps. I've played live and online and I actually can consistenly beat the house playing with a partner. ...you get a decent edge over the house. Out of 20 sessions we would lose one, maybe. We kept records and I would say it was probably 1 loss in 25 sessions, ...The next time we went we would double our bets, erasing all loses from the previous session and then making a nice profit. We never had 2 losing sessions in a row. We kept our wins nice and small so as to not generate too much negative interest from the casinos, but they were consistent gains.
And watch how his hand twists to get different rotations for different pitches. It's actually quite a complex system, but after years of practice, it can be done consistently to throw that ball into a spot about 3 sq. ft.
If a person can set the die in their hand, throw it consistenly so they bounce and hit nearly the same spots nearly every time, why is it so impossible to believe that it can be done? I'm playing devil's advocate here ... I am just throwing some arguments out there ... why CAN'T it happen?
I don't know if this really requires a response, but I will give you challenege. Name any game that a casino has where a player has the edge over a casino? You should know that the answer is none. The house has the edge and as long as it has the edge you cannot break it.
If you are a card counter you have an edge, but you better have a bankroll.
Prophet 22
PS Your right pitchers have 3 square ft to hit their spot and nothing but wind to impede them from doing so. Dice have to hit a pointed padded wall after hitting the table top. How many could hit a thin dime place strategically placed in the strike zone, and do it 20 times in a row.
100% all games at the Casino has an edge, and for some games, you don't even stand a chance such as four card poker where dealer has an extra card against your 5 cards. The slightest edge would be pai gow poker, you have to pay 5% of your bet if you win but in terms of play....its even. They revenue the most from Slots and Blackjack.
I don't know if this really requires a response, but I will give you challenege. Name any game that a casino has where a player has the edge over a casino? You should know that the answer is none. The house has the edge and as long as it has the edge you cannot break it.
If you are a card counter you have an edge, but you better have a bankroll.
Prophet 22
PS Your right pitchers have 3 square ft to hit their spot and nothing but wind to impede them from doing so. Dice have to hit a pointed padded wall after hitting the table top. How many could hit a thin dime place strategically placed in the strike zone, and do it 20 times in a row.
Nope, the casinos didn't like us. But we were having a great time and we weren't stupid about it. It was 2 years ago when we were playing this system. Every 2nd weekend we would tour the casinos, take away a couple hundred for each of us from each casino and that was that. We worked our craps systems and had a good staking plan too.
At any rate, it had nothing to do with throwing the dice in a certain way. And as for throwing the dice the exact way every time ... while VERY difficult, I think it could be done with years of practice. But, personally I won't bother. I just don't have the patience to perfect something like that.
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My favourite part I think was when "TJ" is in a big pot with the writer and he yells/growls  "I RAISE!!!", while leaning over the table, looking like he's going to rip the guy apart, WWF style.  All he needed was one of those yellow tearaway Hulkamania shirts and he could have been Hulk Hogan... Â
So what happened pokerdro? Did your craps throwing work on your next trip?
My argument for this would be: if MLB pitchers can throw a ball in nearly the same spot, day in/day out, for years, then why not dice? Pitchers throw in such a way as to get rotation, speed and trajectory perfect, nearly every time they throw, so again, why not dice?
Because the dice have to hit the table top, then a pointed back wall before it is a legal throw. The pointed padded wall is designed to change the outcome. Pitchers om baseball have no such priameters to contend with.
Prophet 22
Actually they do. The equivalent in baseball would be to mark an X on the ball and be able to control the ball such that when the bat came into contact with the ball, it hit the X every time. Good luck with that.
As Prophet says, the purpose of the rubber wall is to randomize the fall of the dice.
http://www.crapsdicecontrol.com/
I am not recommending the book or anything.... Just showing you all that some people are convinced there is an acheiveable edge. Or maybe they just want to sell books. :-)
lol
Maybe.
And yes, I understand the rules of craps. I've played live and online and I actually can consistenly beat the house playing with a partner. Unfortunately, my partner moved back to Edmonton (the dumb bugger) and I have yet to find a new partner to play with. If you stick to the system (not mine, but one I learned) you get a decent edge over the house. Out of 20 sessions we would lose one, maybe. We kept records and I would say it was probably 1 loss in 25 sessions, but to be sure I would have to dig it up. And that loss would always be small because of a tight stop-loss system. The next time we went we would double our bets, erasing all loses from the previous session and then making a nice profit. We never had 2 losing sessions in a row. We kept our wins nice and small so as to not generate too much negative interest from the casinos, but they were consistent gains.
Anyways, my point about the pitchers was that they throw it the same nearly every time. Look at a MLB pitcher and watch how he sets the ball in his hand for different pitches. Watch how his arm drops for different pitches. And watch how his hand twists to get different rotations for different pitches. It's actually quite a complex system, but after years of practice, it can be done consistently to throw that ball into a spot about 3 sq. ft.
If a person can set the die in their hand, throw it consistenly so they bounce and hit nearly the same spots nearly every time, why is it so impossible to believe that it can be done? I'm playing devil's advocate here ... I am just throwing some arguments out there ... why CAN'T it happen?
Wow, casinos must LOOOOOOOOOOVE you.
Every point you made made me cringe..
What a jokester
I don't know if this really requires a response, but I will give you challenege. Name any game that a casino has where a player has the edge over a casino? You should know that the answer is none. The house has the edge and as long as it has the edge you cannot break it.
If you are a card counter you have an edge, but you better have a bankroll.
Prophet 22
PS Your right pitchers have 3 square ft to hit their spot and nothing but wind to impede them from doing so. Dice have to hit a pointed padded wall after hitting the table top. How many could hit a thin dime place strategically placed in the strike zone, and do it 20 times in a row.
100% all games at the Casino has an edge, and for some games, you don't even stand a chance such as four card poker where dealer has an extra card against your 5 cards. The slightest edge would be pai gow poker, you have to pay 5% of your bet if you win but in terms of play....its even. They revenue the most from Slots and Blackjack.
Nope, the casinos didn't like us. But we were having a great time and we weren't stupid about it. It was 2 years ago when we were playing this system. Every 2nd weekend we would tour the casinos, take away a couple hundred for each of us from each casino and that was that. We worked our craps systems and had a good staking plan too.
At any rate, it had nothing to do with throwing the dice in a certain way. And as for throwing the dice the exact way every time ... while VERY difficult, I think it could be done with years of practice. But, personally I won't bother. I just don't have the patience to perfect something like that.