Representing the flush

wader

Ok
I played this tourney loose and fast. I called his flop bet because I wasnt convinced that he had the A yet. Kind of looked like a continue bet. After the turn bet I beleive him but decide to call and try and spike two pair or trips. If this player would have hit two pair he would have bet more so I think he has a decent A. I am also considering pushing if a heart comes out. Bingo out comes a heart he checks and I push.......he goes into the tank and calls.
Now, what did I do wrong, besides any smart ass comments about calling preflop with K10.
I did play it like a flush draw but I beleive the problem is in the stack sizes. If he calls and loses hes down to the felt, if he folds hes still in the runnings if he calls and wins hes chip leader.
If I had him covered or our stacks where about 5xbb depper I think this play works.
FEED BACK?

Wader





PokerStars Game #4125994697: Tournament #20356535, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/02/28 - 02:51:25 (ET)
Table '20356535 11' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: k6sly (10913 in chips)
Seat 2: bluvsfball (5885 in chips)
Seat 3: jcaddel (4860 in chips)
Seat 4: wader (9283 in chips)
Seat 5: AK $tunna (5040 in chips)
Seat 7: lypps (6115 in chips)
Seat 8: $-ER!C-$ (8515 in chips)
Seat 9: Implant (7307 in chips)
k6sly: posts the ante 25
bluvsfball: posts the ante 25
jcaddel: posts the ante 25
wader: posts the ante 25
AK $tunna: posts the ante 25
lypps: posts the ante 25
$-ER!C-$: posts the ante 25
Implant: posts the ante 25
AK $tunna: posts small blind 200
lypps: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wader [Tc Kd]
$-ER!C-$: folds
Implant: folds
k6sly: raises 800 to 1200
bluvsfball: folds
jcaddel: folds
wader: calls 1200
AK $tunna: folds
lypps: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah 9h Kc]
k6sly: bets 1200
wader: calls 1200
*** TURN *** [Ah 9h Kc] [8d]
k6sly: bets 2000
wader: calls 2000
*** RIVER *** [Ah 9h Kc 8d] [4h]
k6sly: checks
wader: bets 4858 and is all-in
k6sly: calls 4858
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wader: shows [Tc Kd] (a pair of Kings)
k6sly: shows [Jd Ad] (a pair of Aces)
wader is sitting out
k6sly collected 19316 from pot
bluvsfball said, "gc"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19316 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 9h Kc 8d 4h]
Seat 1: k6sly showed [Jd Ad] and won (19316) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: bluvsfball folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: jcaddel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: wader (button) showed [Tc Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: AK $tunna (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: lypps (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: $-ER!C-$ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Implant folded before Flop (didn't bet)

SirWatts

People don't fold, cmon man! Also the pot is huge by that point he's getting good odds to call, and you say yourself you have a loose image so he probably thinks you're more likely to ahve something donkish like KTo than a flush. I think you can give up on the turn, sure he underbet but you're still not close to getting the odds to call on your real outa and your bluffing equity is minimal at best i'd say. Also, you can't assume he will pay off every time you hit 2 pair or trips but fold when you bluff, they're essentially contradictory.