recommendations appreciated...

have the sinking feeling I am bleeding my chips away...sure enough....I WAS !!!

LOL

tips/thoughts much appreciated....these types of hands kill me...

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Table 4 - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:43:14 ET - 2006/02/20
Seat 1: jaypup100 (6,380)
Seat 2: st0neC0ldNutz (6,950)
Seat 3: ryans77 (4,700)
Seat 4: tuffdad (5,570)
Seat 5: nici825 (3,660)
Seat 6: Slick_Nick1041 (5,798)
Seat 7: nickyb73 (3,914)
Seat 8: Spekticle (4,916)
Seat 9: BRD2401 (5,110)
BRD2401 posts the small blind of 200
jaypup100 posts the big blind of 400
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to st0neC0ldNutz [Jh Qc]
st0neC0ldNutz calls 400
---> should I be folding this UTG?
ryans77 folds
tuffdad calls 400
nici825 calls 400
Slick_Nick1041 folds
nickyb73 folds
Spekticle folds
BRD2401 calls 200
jaypup100 checks
*** FLOP *** [3s 6s Qs] --> ahhh monotone flop....scares the hell out of me
BRD2401 checks
jaypup100 checks
st0neC0ldNutz bets 1,000 --> I think this bet is ok here
tuffdad calls 1,000
nici825 folds
BRD2401 folds
jaypup100 folds
*** TURN *** [3s 6s Qs] [5c]
st0neC0ldNutz bets 2,400
tuffdad calls 2,400
*** RIVER *** [3s 6s Qs 5c] [6d]
st0neC0ldNutz bets 1,800
tuffdad calls 1,770, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 30 returned to st0neC0ldNutz
*** SHOW DOWN ***
st0neC0ldNutz shows [Jh Qc] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
tuffdad shows [Qh Kc] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
tuffdad wins the pot (12,340) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 12,340 | Rake 0
Board: [3s 6s Qs 5c 6d]
Seat 1: jaypup100 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: st0neC0ldNutz showed [Jh Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 3: ryans77 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: tuffdad showed [Qh Kc] and won (12,340) with two pair, Queens and Sixes

Comments


  • Dealt to st0neC0ldNutz [Jh Qc]
    st0neC0ldNutz calls 400
    ---> should I be folding this UTG?

    Yes.
  • ^
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    What he said.
  • uh huh, figured i might be hearing that.

    the easiest way to deal with a tough situation is not to get into it in the first place...
  • the easiest way to deal with a tough situation is not to get into it in the first place...

    bingo!

    easy to say, hard to do, for what it's worth I think that is an easy fold UTG.
  • Fold UTG without thinking about it.
  • If your table image is very tight, I would consider raising here to steal.

    If your table image is loose or unestablished, it's an easy fold.
  • UTG QJ is not a playable hand. If someone raises where do you stand. It does not matter if they are suited still fold in early postion. This is a stealing hand in late postion.
  • Dead Money wrote:
    UTG QJ is not a playable hand. If someone raises where do you stand. It does not matter if they are suited still fold in early postion. This is a stealing hand in late postion.

    If someone raises, it's easy to see where you stand. You are behind.
  • BBC Z wrote:
    Dead Money wrote:
    UTG QJ is not a playable hand. If someone raises where do you stand. It does not matter if they are suited still fold in early postion. This is a stealing hand in late postion.

    If someone raises, it's easy to see where you stand. You are behind.


    Fair enough, my point was you would probably have to fold anyways.
  • *** FLOP *** [3s 6s Qs] --> ahhh monotone flop....scares the hell out of me
    BRD2401 checks
    jaypup100 checks
    st0neC0ldNutz bets 1,000 --> I think this bet is ok here
    tuffdad calls 1,000
    nici825 folds
    BRD2401 folds
    jaypup100 folds
    *** TURN *** [3s 6s Qs] [5c]
    st0neC0ldNutz bets 2,400
    tuffdad calls 2,400

    I think when your first bet was called, you needed to slow down on the turn.

    Also, the UTG raise wasn't the best move.
  • Table 4 - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:43:14 ET - 2006/02/20
    Seat 1: jaypup100 (6,380)
    Seat 2: st0neC0ldNutz (6,950)
    Seat 3: ryans77 (4,700)
    Seat 4: tuffdad (5,570)
    Seat 5: nici825 (3,660)
    Seat 6: Slick_Nick1041 (5,798)
    Seat 7: nickyb73 (3,914)
    Seat 8: Spekticle (4,916)
    Seat 9: BRD2401 (5,110)
    BRD2401 posts the small blind of 200
    jaypup100 posts the big blind of 400
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to st0neC0ldNutz [Jh Qc]
    st0neC0ldNutz calls 400 ---> should I be folding this UTG?

    Yes. You should fold this UTG. But, you didn't so... on with the hand.
    ryans77 folds
    tuffdad calls 400
    nici825 calls 400
    Slick_Nick1041 folds
    nickyb73 folds
    Spekticle folds
    BRD2401 calls 200
    jaypup100 checks
    *** FLOP *** [3s 6s Qs] --> ahhh monotone flop....scares the hell out of me

    You got your wish (I guess) and nobody raised behind you. So, you got to the flop for just $400. You have hit the flop, but you are not comfortable. You have a VERY vulnerable hand out of position. Someone with as little as :as is in a virtual dead heat with you.
    BRD2401 checks
    jaypup100 checks
    st0neC0ldNutz bets 1,000 --> I think this bet is ok here

    I probably check here. I am interested in getting some sense for where I *might* be at. Check and fold to big action is fine. I want to play a SMALL pot with this hand.
    tuffdad calls 1,000

    AAALLLLAAARRRMMMMM. You might be beat. He might have a draw. He might have a worse queen. The point is you have very little sense of where you are at.
    nici825 folds
    BRD2401 folds
    jaypup100 folds
    *** TURN *** [3s 6s Qs] [5c]
    st0neC0ldNutz bets 2,400
    tuffdad calls 2,400
    *** RIVER *** [3s 6s Qs 5c] [6d]
    st0neC0ldNutz bets 1,800
    tuffdad calls 1,770, and is all in
    Uncalled bet of 30 returned to st0neC0ldNutz
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    st0neC0ldNutz shows [Jh Qc] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
    tuffdad shows [Qh Kc] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
    tuffdad wins the pot (12,340) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 12,340 | Rake 0
    Board: [3s 6s Qs 5c 6d]
    Seat 1: jaypup100 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: st0neC0ldNutz showed [Jh Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sixes
    Seat 3: ryans77 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: tuffdad showed [Qh Kc] and won (12,340) with two pair, Queens and Sixes

    It is easy, have seent he results, to have predicted this outcome. But, even without peeking this was one of the obvious possible results. I would reccomend against getting all my chips into the pot without have a good idea of where I am at.
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