SnG Hand for Analysis
Stars $10+1, down to 4 players. All 4 players have approx. 3K in chips (Higest at 3.6, lowest at 3). Blinds 100/200. This table has been very tight, first elimination came at 50/100 level.
Hero on the button with 10Qo and raised to 600. Villain in the BB calls.
Read on villain is that he/she tends to overvalue starting hands preflop, but otherwise haven't gone to been caught bluffing or show down weak hands.
Flop KJ4 rainbow.
Villain checks, hero bets 800, and villain ponders for a little bit and makes it 1800 total. (raise of 1000)
Villain has a stack of around 800 left which covers hero.
At this point, I was sure I have 8 clean outs (4xA, 4x9), and possibly 3 other outs (Qs). Throwing this hand away would leave hero at around 1700, not bad but blinds are up in a hand or two. It was either a fold or push situation, and pushing here will definitely get a call. So how would you play this hand?
Personally, the only way I might've played this differently is take the freecard, as any card that comes can only help me and not necessarily hurt me. Thoughts?
Hero on the button with 10Qo and raised to 600. Villain in the BB calls.
Read on villain is that he/she tends to overvalue starting hands preflop, but otherwise haven't gone to been caught bluffing or show down weak hands.
Flop KJ4 rainbow.
Villain checks, hero bets 800, and villain ponders for a little bit and makes it 1800 total. (raise of 1000)
Villain has a stack of around 800 left which covers hero.
At this point, I was sure I have 8 clean outs (4xA, 4x9), and possibly 3 other outs (Qs). Throwing this hand away would leave hero at around 1700, not bad but blinds are up in a hand or two. It was either a fold or push situation, and pushing here will definitely get a call. So how would you play this hand?
Personally, the only way I might've played this differently is take the freecard, as any card that comes can only help me and not necessarily hurt me. Thoughts?
Comments
Playing to win? Then shove'm in. (Hey that rhymed!)
Seriously, you probally should have taken the free card, but since you acted first, then finish it with your eyes closed and fingers crossed
If you ditch the hand, you're left with the others just trying to blind to you out.
Just my humble but fishy opinion.
JohnnieH
If the table is as tight as you say it is, I'd fold to the re-raise and steal my way back into it.
Can you clarify which level the blinds are at (I know you said 100-200). But on Stars you're either on the first 100-200 (no ante) and the next level would be 100-200 with a 25 ante. If the next level just adds the ante, you might be able to fold and steal. If it's going to 200-400 though, I think I'd push and take the favourable odds the pot is laying you (if you push you're getting roughly 3:1 on what is roughly a 3:1 draw). If you fold and the blinds stay at 100-200 witht the 25 ante, you still have some fold equity with an M of a little over 4. If it's 200-400 you're crippled though and are going to get called.
It is the 100-200 level with no ante.
You're not supposed to tell the world that I'm a calling station!
i'm pretty sure this information is readily available before you even sit down at the table... you might want to avoid saying things like "i'm a calling station" if you don't want people to know you're a calling station... just a thought
Anyways...think we need to get back to the hand at hand...
....except "Call"....
Getting back to the hand, I probably check behind too, but I've also been known to bet at this flop
hoping the BB will just fold.
As you have already bet and been raised, you are getting better than the odds needed to hit the draw
(and it is a draw to the nuts - no flush draws out there so at least 8 clean outs) so I'd stick my money in there too
...and of course be pissed after the draw missed and I bubbled
ScoobyD: I just noticed your "title"... LPLLHEetc. Way too funny dude.
Thanks, I think this forum has turned me into an acronym whore. Meh, all for the sake of brevity I guess...
No-limit (PL even moreso) is often about manipulating the size of the pot. In this case...
There is now 2100 in the pot. If you get checkraised you will be offered a call of 1800 into a pot of 4700 which is going to be an automatic call.
In the actual hand he checkraises less than your full stack and you are facing a call of 1000 into 3900 which you cannot pass up on.
My point is that the decision point in the hand is when you make your flop bet, NOT when he check raises you. The pot is getting too big and you will be forced to call if your opponents wants to play for all the bananas.
Do I want to play for all the marbles? Yes, I think I am willing too. I have a big draw and position. I probably simply move in on the flop. If he calls, OK, I have outs. If he doesn't call, even better. The problem with the small bet is that it invites trouble and you are going to have to call anyway.