patience pays off for once

I've taken the original post off, I was loaded after a bar run and pissed off when I wrote it. there is a reply for mds  :D

stpboy I value your comments, I will remember them

and yes Jim is a good player it was rough to see him taking the beats he was taking, always getting severely out flopped I think it just took a toll on his play because his moves were perfect for the situation they just never seemed to have the right outcome. the table was rather unpredictable and the cards were falling rather bizarrely. also your right on my comments to the dealer I was whining to him like a poodle on a leash near the end and he shouldn’t have to deal with that.

Comments

  • I understand what you are saying as I have been at tables like this time and time again, it can be frustrating. I'm not a great cash game player so all I can speak of is my tournament experience against this player type.

    For you to say that you are done with West Side Low Limit Tournaments because the players are so loose and so lucky, it doesn't make a lot of sense. I can undestand how getting beat by an inferior hand can upset you but for someone that understands odds as well as you do, you should know that more times than not playing in these tournaments will be a +EV. Your example of playing with patience actually proves what you need to do in this type of game and the fact that you won $300 is yet another reason for you to continue playing. Again though, I can understand from an enjoyment stance why you wouldn't want to but from a money making stance it really doesn't make sense. If you are playing to win money why would you want to play with "good players" all the time. You do need people who consistently chase cards and have poor hand selection....to win money.

    Another couple points, Jim is a great player and a great guy. It's always nice to see him.

    I watched that cash game for a bit and saw you give the dealer a hard time. Again, I understand that people get upset during poker but I never think it's appropriate to take your frustrations out on the dealer.

    stp
  • For you to say that you are done with West Side Low Limit Tournaments because the players are so loose and so lucky, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

    When I was there yesterday, the following hand played out.

    100/200 blinds, I am shortstacked and thinking about doubling up or rebuying.

    2 limpers to me in the BB, I check with K8o.

    Flop: 7 5 2 rainbow or some such trash.  I make the standard "this shitty flop MUST have hit my hand because I'm the BB" play, and push all-in for 1000 or so.

    Folded to an LP player who thinks for a bit, and then calls me with QTo.  My hand held up.

    Who doesn't want to be in that type of a game?  Even when you bluff, you're still ahead of hands that call you.

    That being said, I also played against some really skilled players.  One guy in particular who I beat with my TJ vs. his AA was very skilled, and while it sucked to bust him (or close to it) in that way, I was glad to see him go.
  • ya, those luck sacks playing the Westside tourneys burn me up :rage:
  • Were you there yesterday? I didn't see you...
  • yep. just not for long...

    i saw you come in late. i busted out before the break and didn't hang around to chat. nothing worse than getting to the river 85+% favourite and losing. especially when you can do it twice in about an hour. ain't poker great?

    i'll be busting out of the freeroll shortly, i expect. online or live, westside is rigged :D
  • Holy shit what a load of crap!

    You know what I hated MOST about the WSPC event yesterday? The little rat shit whiney prick Patrick Parent who just thought he was our gift for the day. You were berating everyone, telling them how badly they played EVERY hand, and how their poker life sucks.

    You are a whiney ass jerk off who I hope I never get the "gift" of playing again. I was glad to leave the table when I did, only because I knew I would never have to hear your verbal diahhrea ever again. And what happens? I come to my favourite poker forum only to see you have spread your wisdom and advice here too. Poor forumers. I hope your stay here is brief.

    To all the others I played with yesterday, you all had class and respect for each other, we had a great time shooting the breeze (in between Patrick's advice columns) and overall I enjoyed myself. I am just so relieved that Patrick is the exception here and not the norm. He is the only jackass that I have met from the forum, and for that I am very grateful.
  • ROFLMAO.

    Sounds like I should have been playing the cash games downstairs after the tournament... they must have been entertaining!
  • Don't sugar coat it MDS, tell us straight up how you feel about this guy
  • who was it that wanted to start the 2/4nl game with 60 bucks? that was my cue to leave.
  • SOS wrote:
    Don't sugar coat it MDS, tell us straight up how you feel about this guy

    Out of respect for Sloth and the other moderators of this great forum, I held back alot of my true feelings.
  • Nice! It's about time we had a good flame-fest to start the new year...

    And I gotta agree with MDS on the verbal diarrhea quote.

    Choice lines that had me either laughing, rolling my eyes, or shaking my head: (begin sarcasm)
    but to tell you the truth I hate tables like this, normally I like a tight table with good players that play good poker and yes I'm saying the play on this table was poor

    Ya, loose games are a nightmare. I love a table full of rocks, those guys just love to give their money away.
    I was back into my goove and stealing like a robber, putting peole on reads, ended up cashing out 615 up 300,

    Stealing off super-loose players... Reading their oh-so narrow ranges of hands... You rule.
    I've come to the conclusion that this kind of poker takes the skill out of the game and makes the rake the largest winner.

    Everybody knows a loose game is just bingo. Completely impossible to beat calling stations.
    I did'nt play the poker I like to play or that most people should be playing. any game like that will have a negitive effect upon you game and not make you a good player.

    Idiots. How can you beat a game where you might have to adjust your play to the other players? It's madness I say, utter madness! The rest of the table should be adjusting to your style to give you all their money right?
    happy seems like a nice guy - when he's not drinking and playing poker.

    Those idiots don't realize that poker is more than a game, and as such, bad beats MUST be taken personally. When the guy calls your allin preflop reraise with 22 vs your AA, and rivers their 2 outer, how do they NOT realize that this is testamount to saying: "I had sex with your mother the other night, what a dirty, dirty skank. Best $5 I ever spent."

    Someday these idiots will learn how to play, and then you will enter the golden age of poker, when you can NEVER possibly lose...

    (end sarcasm)
  • I'm confused......was this thread started to pat yourself on the back repeatedly, or just to tell everyone else (players, dealers, posters) what's wrong with them?

    Either way, looks like you're making lots of new friends.

    Great post MDS.
  • "When the guy calls your allin preflop reraise with 22 vs your AA, and rivers their 2 outer, how do they NOT realize that this is testamount to saying: "I had sex with your mother the other night, what a dirty, dirty skank. Best $5 I ever spent."


    I haven't laughed this hard in a while :)
  • ScoobyD wrote:
    Nice! It's about time we had a good flame-fest to start the new year...

    And I gotta agree with MDS on the verbal diarrhea quote. 

    Choice lines that had me either laughing, rolling my eyes, or shaking my head: (begin sarcasm)
    but to tell you the truth I hate tables like this, normally I like a tight table with good players that play good poker and yes I'm saying the play on this table was poor

    Ya, loose games are a nightmare.  I love a table full of rocks, those guys just love to give their money away.
    I was back into my goove and stealing like a robber, putting peole on reads, ended up cashing out 615 up 300,

    Stealing off super-loose players...  Reading their oh-so narrow ranges of hands...  You rule.
    I've come to the conclusion that this kind of poker takes the skill out of the game and makes the rake the largest winner.

    Everybody knows a loose game is just bingo.  Completely impossible to beat calling stations.
    I did'nt play the poker I like to play or that most people should be playing. any game like that will have a negitive effect upon you game and not make you a good player.

    Idiots.  How can you beat a game where you might have to adjust your play to the other players?  It's madness I say, utter madness!  The rest of the table should be adjusting to your style  to give you all their money right?
    happy seems like a nice guy - when he's not drinking and playing poker.

    Those idiots don't realize that poker is more than a game, and as such, bad beats MUST be taken personally.  When the guy calls your allin preflop reraise with 22 vs your AA, and rivers their 2 outer,  how do they NOT realize that this is testamount to saying:  "I had sex with your mother the other night, what a dirty, dirty skank. Best $5 I ever spent."

    Someday these idiots will learn how to play, and then you will enter the golden age of poker, when you can NEVER possibly lose...

    (end sarcasm)



    Fantastic.

    Has anyone noticed that he has posted no response at all?
  • I just caught this thread and it so REMINDED me of last night watching Phil "God's gift to poker" hellmuth playing the WSOP main event. How the f could you call my all in with KJ suited. I re raised to define my hand you should have known you were beat" When he lost with his AK to the KJ when the river brought a jack. walked away and came back to lose to AQ to 77 on his final allin and left fuming. SCREAMING OMG this is the worst poker i've ever seen.

    To the original poster: Dude: modify your game against crazy loose people. You either tighten up or you play their game. People suck out. Loose people suck out more. Lots of loose crazy people suck out lots because you can't get them out of a hand. Quit thinking your the 2nd coming of hellmuth "i'd win every hand if it weren't for luck".

    To MDS: If that's what the tourney was like I'm glad I missed it. However I did get a large chuckle out of your post.
  • AcidJoe wrote:
    To MDS:  If that's what the tourney was like I'm glad I missed it.  However I did get a large chuckle out of your post. 

    No, that wasn't how the entire tourny was. Westside throws a great event and this was no exception. The tourny was very well run and had some very good players. Just look through the field of attendees, All Aces, esool, Magithighs, and many other very talented players. I guess with talent comes class, because I didn't hear any one of those guys complaining about anything. Only Mr. Patrick Parent.

    If you haven't had the opportunity to play with Happy420 before, I highly reccomend it. He is a very entertaining character to say the least. :D
  • holy crap I was just having a bitch out to a long day of poker, venting if you will, hell after writing it I was even thinking it would be something more appropriate for a journal as a good portion of it was venting BS and wasn't even serious.

    Amazed to see all responses, I have to say I appreciate some of the comments while others just seem :D a little anally retentive

    hell MDS if you had such anger for me I figure you'd be happy I wasn't playing the cash games there any more. any way seek help man because a pole that long and stuck that far up your ass should need to be surgically removed :'(

    acidjoe what can I say, every 1 in 3 post I see up here is yours so I understand your anger at me venting on your turf appologies man and to anyone else that takes offence there was none intended.

    oh and I want to reiterate that the tourney was professionally run, west side tournies always run very smothly I would recommend them to anyone playing the game I was merely venting
  • Editing your original post after 12 responses is lame.
  • 'Lame' doesn't even begin to describe it.
  • Didnt bart Simpson say that in the 90's? haha
  • Thought I would Chime in here as I have played Mr Parent.
    Pat you are the biggest cry baby in poker I have ever played , I'm sorry it had to be said. We all have shitty runs and good runs with cards, and since your not a professional poker player your no better a judge of everyone else's poker skills then anyone else on this forum. I think you should apologize to everyone on the forum for being an ass.
    BTW you owe me a new license plate! :D
    River Mike
  • one quote comes to mind

    "i can't beleive an ace high won that"

    "well pat...you did play king high to the river....."
  • I have had the misfortune of being at the same poker table as Pat. He has a special talent for turning a fun friendly game into the worst card playing experience ever. He think's he's a pro, he's not. He's cocky, ignorant, and well, just a total jackass.
  • Mike27: Your avatar is awesome. Eko is the man.
  • Didnt bart Simpson say that in the 90's? haha

    Really? I thought he said "Get bent"? I'm not sure what gent you're talking about...Mr. Burns maybe?
  • I hate when I am at a table of fish and and some zucchini keeps tapping the aquarium.

    What I hate worse though is being at a table full of good poker players. I hate that shit.






    Sure wish I had read the original post before it was deleted..
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