Other "Online Poker is Rigged"
This happened over a course of a quite a few hands (10+)...so instead of direct copy+paste of HH, I'll just post a few of the lines
tinlizzie said, "do you people notice this poker room does not deal random but to seats"
Bryan_B007 said, "it deals to me a lot"
(after a hand where Bryan sucked out out a guy with 3 outer)
tinlizzie said, "we should quit playing here till they clean up their acts. party poker is the fairest and the biggest ."
Bryan_B007 said, "i have never won a penny on that damn site i hate it"
tinlizzie said, "I'm taking my money out of here"
Bryan_B007 said, "i played all kinds of games at different limits maybe this one's just not lukcy for you"
conan201 said, "this poker site is BS"
conan201 said, "river card decideds it ever singal time"
tinlizzie said, "do you people notice this poker room does not deal random but to seats"
Bryan_B007 said, "it deals to me a lot"
(after a hand where Bryan sucked out out a guy with 3 outer)
tinlizzie said, "we should quit playing here till they clean up their acts. party poker is the fairest and the biggest ."
Bryan_B007 said, "i have never won a penny on that damn site i hate it"
tinlizzie said, "I'm taking my money out of here"
Bryan_B007 said, "i played all kinds of games at different limits maybe this one's just not lukcy for you"
conan201 said, "this poker site is BS"
conan201 said, "river card decideds it ever singal time"
Comments
ScottyZ
The other night buddy re raises original raiser with KK. Board comes down A rag rag. Original raiser leads out, KK pushes. DOH> Guess what he lost and bitches about how his KK always lose. That is a situation you know you should be getting out of. Must be because on line poker is rigged, not because he might have seen this coming if he had half a brain.
They usually are either way too loose aggressive or extremely tight passive who get annoyed when the one hand they play in 20 does not win because they are entitled to win every hand if they only play the best stuff preflop.
I have seen two red aces call 3 way capped post flop action on a flop of 8 9 10 all spades and whine that the site was rigged when they lose to a flush. It certainly was not their play that cost them money.
One sort of amusing thing to do is ask the rigged players how the sites are rigged and they will nearly always say that the site juices up the hands to make them action hands. Ask them if they do this for all limits and they will say yes.
Then explain to them how at the higher limits that every pot that sees a flop gets max raked anyways so all action hands do is slow the game down since "action" hands take longer. Thus, the sites should "unjuice" their hands to generate more rake. This logic gap will confuse them for a few seconds but then they will go back to their rants at which point it is just easier to suggest they look for discounts on tin foil hats at Wal Mart.
With all that being said, the very first hand I got dealt today was a rigged poker believers dream. The guy sat down, won 3 hands vs 3 opponents in the craziest way then left up about $50. Maybe it is rigged....
Dealt to Monteroy [Js Qh]
Zaczac3 leaves the table
nisser: folds
Juicemouf: folds
pok21KASS: calls $2
Papa Lou: calls $2
respect888: folds
Monteroy: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d Jd Qs]
Monteroy: bets $2
pok21KASS: folds
Papa Lou: calls $2
*** TURN *** [3d Jd Qs] [8h]
Monteroy: bets $4
Papa Lou: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [3d Jd Qs 8h] [8s]
Monteroy: bets $4
Papa Lou: raises $4 to $8
Monteroy: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Papa Lou: shows [8d 2h] (three of a kind, Eights)
Monteroy: shows [Js Qh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
Papa Lou collected $34 from pot
"you should have known you would lose"
"with trips - tis site is rigged"
my response
"your right, I forgot - nh"
He left 20 mins later on a "bad beat" when his pocket 9's (which hit the board of AA9) were "cracked" by my aces full
I now have a less conspiracy-oriented theory. Poker IS rigged, not by the sites but instead by Darwin's law!
Also known as "Emotional Implied Odds", or the relative "EIO" of any given play. That is, when you know you're behind and you should really fold, but the emotional payoff of winning with those two particular cards more than makes up for the math of the situation.
For you, it's A9. For me, it's 22.
Villian - "How could you possibly call all-in with that??? You weren't short-stacked or anything!"
Hero - "I know my M was 137, but my EIO was 8, so I had to play the hand out. Besides, this site is rigged
Nice idea.
I suppose hands like AA and KK have reverse EIO.
Agreed. The most the beautiful thing about poker IMO is the ability of the game to disguise skill. For the most part, the "poker is like sex" joke holds true, and we play worse than we think we do.
ScottyZ
As for "EIO", I was thinking that anytime you're playing an EIO hand you could start humming "Old MacDonald had a farm, E I E I O...". People will think you're crazy.
Why do I think about this stuff.
Relief from the day-to-day torment of comic genius?
ScottyZ
Crazy.
or Genius. Maybe both. Maybe Mike Caro better watch his back, you're about to steal his moniker, the New Mad Genius of Poker.
whoopass2005: and so is this site
whoopass2005: i have never seen such bs on the river
whoopass2005: definately not random at all
lol