This whole hand is weird to me
I bluffed and it worked and now I'm confused. The limper is standard loose passive, the preflop raiser just sat down limped 6 of his first nine hands or something gross. I don't normally make these kind of moves so was i just lucky or is this something I should be doing more often?
***** Hand History for Game 3152739661 *****
$5/$10 Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 06, 00:38:15 EDT 2005
VicVaselino posts small blind [$2].
ISellWatkins posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Qc Kd ]
4 folds
mark7l1 calls [$5].
TheTaiko raises [$10].
SirWatts calls [$10].
I would usually 3-bet or fold here but idon't give him credit for a real big hand given his fishy play over the first 10 hands and with the limper already in and not going anywhere there didn't seem to be much point in trying to isolate.
VicVaselino folds.
ISellWatkins folds.
mark7l1 calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 3s, Ts ]
mark7l1 checks.
TheTaiko bets [$5].
SirWatts calls [$5].
mark7l1 calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
mark7l1 checks.
TheTaiko bets [$10].
SirWatts raises [$20] (??)
Seemed like a good idea at the time so I clicked raise.
mark7l1 folds.
TheTaiko calls [$10] (reluctantly)
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
TheTaiko checks.
SirWatts bets [$10] Gotta try to fold out AK/AQ maybe some others if i'm lucky
TheTaiko folds.
***** Hand History for Game 3152739661 *****
$5/$10 Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 06, 00:38:15 EDT 2005
VicVaselino posts small blind [$2].
ISellWatkins posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Qc Kd ]
4 folds
mark7l1 calls [$5].
TheTaiko raises [$10].
SirWatts calls [$10].
I would usually 3-bet or fold here but idon't give him credit for a real big hand given his fishy play over the first 10 hands and with the limper already in and not going anywhere there didn't seem to be much point in trying to isolate.
VicVaselino folds.
ISellWatkins folds.
mark7l1 calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 3s, Ts ]
mark7l1 checks.
TheTaiko bets [$5].
SirWatts calls [$5].
mark7l1 calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
mark7l1 checks.
TheTaiko bets [$10].
SirWatts raises [$20] (??)
Seemed like a good idea at the time so I clicked raise.
mark7l1 folds.
TheTaiko calls [$10] (reluctantly)
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
TheTaiko checks.
SirWatts bets [$10] Gotta try to fold out AK/AQ maybe some others if i'm lucky
TheTaiko folds.
Comments
stp
You have to watch out because that line is an overused bluff line that will get called down more often by good players.
In that case, I don't like the play. It's far better to bluff with nothing than to bluff with something that you will want to call with anyway.
Right. Thats why I don't like the raise because you are going to be putting in more money on your draw and you want to see that last card.
I have to disagree with this point, I am semibluffing. I'm giving myself 2 ways to win the pot, isn't this the whole point? Without the equity of my OESD+overs to fall back on this would be a bad desperate steal attempt imo.
The limer could have darn near anything. The raiser has "a hand." You say he has limpted 6 of 9. So, he is loose passive. This means that his raise is, in his mind at least, a legit hand.
I disagree with your reasoning. I think it highly likely that he has a big hand. After limping 6 of nine we know that limping is his "usual" approach. The raise is unusual and indicated, most of the time, a hand he likes.
I am not a fan of the play. What does the raiser have? At this point I am giving him A-K, A-Q, or a pair. Of the pair he is most likely to have it is either an overpair or a set all of which are bad.
I think you are right, he has A-K or A-Q and folds.
So, you won the hand because you pressed a bluff on the turn with a hand that, pre-flop, was dominated. If this is a long term profitable play -- which it may very well be -- then it will be profitable with any two cards. As it turns out, it was a great play. There is value in your turn raise -- it sets up a river bluff. But, in a typical $5-10 game it will also freeze the action from a player with an overpair. He has shown passive tendencies (six limps). He may well call your raise with A-A and then check-call the river.