A few 10/20 hands
Sometimes I just get the itch to play limit cash games, even though my results there lately aren't great. Here's a few hands, how did I do?
Villian is LAGgy from steal positions.
#Game No : 3107173558
***** Hand History for Game 3107173558 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 22:38:12 EDT 2005
tegretol posts small blind [$5].
SirWatts posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Th Tc ]
esb125 folds.
kenny8k8 folds.
haoleboy41 folds.
MCasa23 folds.
mummyscurse raises [$20].
tegretol folds.
SirWatts raises [$20].
mummyscurse calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Jd, 2h ]
SirWatts bets [$10].
mummyscurse calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
SirWatts bets [$20].
mummyscurse raises [$40].
>You have options at Table 66490 (9 max) Table!.
SirWatts calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
SirWatts bets [$20].
mummyscurse calls [$20].
#Game No : 3107367627
***** Hand History for Game 3107367627 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 23:08:11 EDT 2005
Table Table 65150 (9 max) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
SamAK posts small blind [$5].
MTG_Buyer posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Kd Ac ]
chinooky folds.
motu100 folds.
goodhandkid calls [$10].
SirWatts raises [$20].
Aldbaran8 folds.
larry1313131 folds.
SamAK calls [$15].
MTG_Buyer calls [$10].
goodhandkid calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 5c, 6c ]
SamAK checks.
MTG_Buyer checks.
goodhandkid checks.
SirWatts bets [$10].
SamAK folds.
MTG_Buyer calls [$10].
goodhandkid folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
MTG_Buyer checks.
SirWatts checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
MTG_Buyer bets [$20].
SirWatts calls [$20]
#Game No : 3107405219
***** Hand History for Game 3107405219 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 23:14:09 EDT 2005
Table Table 64759 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Shockweed posts small blind [$5].
TourTravler posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Kd Ac ]
DocHarley folds.
>You have options at Table 65150 (9 max) Table!.
kenny8k8 folds.
haoleboy41 raises [$20].
MCasa23 folds.
mummyscurse folds.
cu_fan folds.
tegretol folds.
SirWatts raises [$30].
Shockweed folds.
TourTravler folds.
haoleboy41 calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Jh, Th ]
haoleboy41 checks.
SirWatts bets [$10].
haoleboy41 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
haoleboy41 checks.
SirWatts checks (?)
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
haoleboy41 checks.
SirWatts checks.
In this one both raisers in front of me are very loose.
#Game No : 3107449368
***** Hand History for Game 3107449368 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 23:21:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 64759 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
SirWatts posts small blind [$5].
Shockweed posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Th Td ]
TourTravler folds.
DocHarley folds.
kenny8k8 folds.
haoleboy41 folds.
MCasa23 folds.
mummyscurse raises [$20].
cu_fan folds.
tegretol raises [$30].
>You have options at Table 65150 (9 max) Table!.
SirWatts raises [$35].
Shockweed folds.
mummyscurse calls [$20].
tegretol calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Kd, 2h ]
SirWatts bets [$10].
mummyscurse calls [$10].
tegretol calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
SirWatts checks.
mummyscurse checks.
tegretol bets [$20].
SirWatts folds.
How much does this river check raise suck?
#Game No : 3107493111
***** Hand History for Game 3107493111 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 23:28:27 EDT 2005
Table Table 64759 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
TourTravler posts small blind [$5].
DocHarley posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Kc Tc ]
kenny8k8 folds.
mummyscurse folds.
cu_fan folds.
tegretol folds.
SirWatts raises [$20].
Shockweed calls [$20].
TourTravler folds.
DocHarley folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 2s, 8c ]
SirWatts bets [$10].
Shockweed calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
SirWatts bets [$20].
Shockweed raises [$40].
SirWatts calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
SirWatts checks.
Shockweed bets [$20].
SirWatts raises [$40].
That's all for now. Praise/berate me at will.
Villian is LAGgy from steal positions.
#Game No : 3107173558
***** Hand History for Game 3107173558 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 22:38:12 EDT 2005
tegretol posts small blind [$5].
SirWatts posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Th Tc ]
esb125 folds.
kenny8k8 folds.
haoleboy41 folds.
MCasa23 folds.
mummyscurse raises [$20].
tegretol folds.
SirWatts raises [$20].
mummyscurse calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Jd, 2h ]
SirWatts bets [$10].
mummyscurse calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
SirWatts bets [$20].
mummyscurse raises [$40].
>You have options at Table 66490 (9 max) Table!.
SirWatts calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
SirWatts bets [$20].
mummyscurse calls [$20].
#Game No : 3107367627
***** Hand History for Game 3107367627 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 23:08:11 EDT 2005
Table Table 65150 (9 max) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
SamAK posts small blind [$5].
MTG_Buyer posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Kd Ac ]
chinooky folds.
motu100 folds.
goodhandkid calls [$10].
SirWatts raises [$20].
Aldbaran8 folds.
larry1313131 folds.
SamAK calls [$15].
MTG_Buyer calls [$10].
goodhandkid calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 5c, 6c ]
SamAK checks.
MTG_Buyer checks.
goodhandkid checks.
SirWatts bets [$10].
SamAK folds.
MTG_Buyer calls [$10].
goodhandkid folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
MTG_Buyer checks.
SirWatts checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
MTG_Buyer bets [$20].
SirWatts calls [$20]
#Game No : 3107405219
***** Hand History for Game 3107405219 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 23:14:09 EDT 2005
Table Table 64759 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Shockweed posts small blind [$5].
TourTravler posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Kd Ac ]
DocHarley folds.
>You have options at Table 65150 (9 max) Table!.
kenny8k8 folds.
haoleboy41 raises [$20].
MCasa23 folds.
mummyscurse folds.
cu_fan folds.
tegretol folds.
SirWatts raises [$30].
Shockweed folds.
TourTravler folds.
haoleboy41 calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Jh, Th ]
haoleboy41 checks.
SirWatts bets [$10].
haoleboy41 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
haoleboy41 checks.
SirWatts checks (?)
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
haoleboy41 checks.
SirWatts checks.
In this one both raisers in front of me are very loose.
#Game No : 3107449368
***** Hand History for Game 3107449368 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 23:21:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 64759 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
SirWatts posts small blind [$5].
Shockweed posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Th Td ]
TourTravler folds.
DocHarley folds.
kenny8k8 folds.
haoleboy41 folds.
MCasa23 folds.
mummyscurse raises [$20].
cu_fan folds.
tegretol raises [$30].
>You have options at Table 65150 (9 max) Table!.
SirWatts raises [$35].
Shockweed folds.
mummyscurse calls [$20].
tegretol calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Kd, 2h ]
SirWatts bets [$10].
mummyscurse calls [$10].
tegretol calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
SirWatts checks.
mummyscurse checks.
tegretol bets [$20].
SirWatts folds.
How much does this river check raise suck?
#Game No : 3107493111
***** Hand History for Game 3107493111 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 27, 23:28:27 EDT 2005
Table Table 64759 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
TourTravler posts small blind [$5].
DocHarley posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirWatts [ Kc Tc ]
kenny8k8 folds.
mummyscurse folds.
cu_fan folds.
tegretol folds.
SirWatts raises [$20].
Shockweed calls [$20].
TourTravler folds.
DocHarley folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 2s, 8c ]
SirWatts bets [$10].
Shockweed calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
SirWatts bets [$20].
Shockweed raises [$40].
SirWatts calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
SirWatts checks.
Shockweed bets [$20].
SirWatts raises [$40].
That's all for now. Praise/berate me at will.
Comments
I'm not sure how anyone can comment on these hands accurately without more description by you on what you were thinking on each street. The hand histories are a start, but you really have to take us through your though processes when playing at 10 20 to get meaningful feedback. I can assume why you did what you did at most times, but without hearing your analysis its all mostly guess work.
Hope you won most of them
2) I'd bet the turn. Let Villian tell us he's NOT on a draw.
4) I dislike you leading the flop. Two overcards that loose players can easily hold. Lets see what the action on the flop is. Then you can either C/R the buttons bet or fold.
Last) Yup, that river check raise is bad. It gave you a reason to call the river, not raise it.
Turn: Calling the raise is reasonable. There is a decent chance that your hand is good heads-up, and even moreso against an aggressive opponent.
River: I prefer leading out. Since the river is a scare card, you can't expect the opponent to bet the river for you. Going for a check-raise yourself is probably too risky, again due to the scare card.
2.
Flop: With 3 opponents, I would check behind everyone with just the overcards and backdoor flush draw.
Turn: Checking behind on the turn almost commits you to a river call unless something brutal comes off. Given that you had bet the flop, I prefer betting again on the turn to attempt the free showdown play in case your opponent has flopped some kind of draw and played it passively.
River: Automatic call, given the previous action.
3.
Pre-flop: I consider re-raising pre-flop in this spot fine, but optional.
Turn: Again, I would probably bet with the intention of checking behind on the river.
River: Given the actual action, checking the river is fine. You can only beat AQ and KQ, and with a river brick and the previous weakness shown, your opponent is unlikely to fold any pair here.
4.
Pre-flop: Even against very loose pre-flop raisers, I'm not sure I'd call (or raise) 2.5 bets cold from the SB with TT. You often have the best pre-flop hand here, but it's more of a "reverse implied odds" hand that's typically not going to play well post-flop. Still, it's a close decision.
Flop: Fine to take one stab at a big pot.
Turn: Check and fold seems right. It's hard to imagine your hand being good.
5.
Turn: Calling the raise if fine. Re-raising and continuing the semi-bluff here deserves some consideration, though it is probably a little reckless. It would depend a lot on your opponent's heads-up style, and general aggressiveness.
River: Your hand is now both strong enough to check and call with, and weak enough to check and call with.
ScottyZ
Only when you're losing (at least that's what I find). When you're crushing the game, every play seems so obvious, so simple, so RIGHT. Things start getting confusing when every hand goes to hell with those donks catching cards...
It's not so much that they're hard.. but the long run is so damn long it can screw with your head.
Ah...maybe you should have qualified this with:
SH games scare me...