[SPLIT] do I call or fold

Shook

Lets assume that the call is Automatic (I think it should be for everyone who limped in late position)

This raises a good question.

If I have KK or something nice and I am on the button and everyone else has limped, is making a raise of any benefi?

If you are confident that you hand is the best and will hold up I can understand that you may feel you are building your pot, but then you get smoked by a 9-2o on the flop.

Limit has taught me not to value my hands too much as I get tore up a lot by BS callers.

uhhhh ... I think thats all.

Later.

ol-stone-face

Shook wrote:

If I have KK or something nice and I am on the button and everyone else has limped, is making a raise of any benefi?

If you are confident that you hand is the best and will hold up I can understand that you may feel you are building your pot, but then you get smoked by a 9-2o on the flop.

Limit has taught me not to value my hands too much as I get tore up a lot by BS callers.

Yes, and you hope somebody reraises you so you can cap it. If someone smokes you with 92o then smile and go get'em next time.

EDIT: Forgot to add that "bs callers" are your best friends.

Shook

So when I get a big hand Raise regardless of position in a limit game ... eventhough I will get max callers???

I guess you really get paid when you hit.

P.S. As of late the BS dudes are owning me.

ol-stone-face

You said you were on the button with KK. In that case yes, punish the limpers. You said everyone limped. Punish them.
I would cap any day with KK from any position in a low limit game. (i'm assuming low limit game here).

Shook

isn't it risky to cap at low limits as the range of calling/re-raising hands would be far greater?

Maybe I am too timid and my poor heart can't take the stress

The way I have started to look at is, they are calling anyway, why risk more until we see the flop. But I guess there are a million and one varibles to account for.

I guess a raise could help me in later rounds of betting as my preflop raise may establish that I have a solid hand.

ol-stone-face

You risk more because you hold an edge with such a strong starting hand over a bunch of limpers playing weak aces, unsuited connectors and any other of a myriad of crap hands typical in low limit games. That said if an Ace and no K hits the flop your kings are near worthless. Don't bluff, just look for a reason to exit. You have to push your edges hard in loose low limit games.

Shook

That ones in the books.

Thanks for your input ... Ol ... errr Stone Face (I Swear I mean that in the nicest way possible )