Getting Personal?
Hey
Just a question - have you ever got "personal" during an online game?
To clarify have you ever just got pissed at someone for either, handing you a bad beat, trash talking or any other offense that sets you on tilt?
Yesterday I did it twice, and in the end it was definitely -EV
Once in a HE ring game when the guy raised almost every hand ( I had him at 87% pre flop raise) with anything and proceeded to hand out bad beats to the entire table - I then continued to donk off all of my winnings by trying to trap him or just beat him in a pot
Other was in a tourney, similar story to above and I ended up losing heads up when his KQ beat my AQ - hut again my fault I tried to be in every pot he was in and it cost me
I hope I have learned my lesson (I realize this may be a holdover from my youth playing hockey and football - the old remember his number routine) - but I am interested if anyone else experiences this, and if so - how have you overcome it?
Cheers
Scots
Just a question - have you ever got "personal" during an online game?
To clarify have you ever just got pissed at someone for either, handing you a bad beat, trash talking or any other offense that sets you on tilt?
Yesterday I did it twice, and in the end it was definitely -EV
Once in a HE ring game when the guy raised almost every hand ( I had him at 87% pre flop raise) with anything and proceeded to hand out bad beats to the entire table - I then continued to donk off all of my winnings by trying to trap him or just beat him in a pot
Other was in a tourney, similar story to above and I ended up losing heads up when his KQ beat my AQ - hut again my fault I tried to be in every pot he was in and it cost me
I hope I have learned my lesson (I realize this may be a holdover from my youth playing hockey and football - the old remember his number routine) - but I am interested if anyone else experiences this, and if so - how have you overcome it?
Cheers
Scots
Comments
As for the tourney, in a heads up I can see most people going all in with either of those hands. Win some, loose some. Just a bad break.
Hobbes
Mind you I am very willing to congratulate someone on a nice hand or play, particularly when they trap and/or out play me but I find it very hard to take when some joker calls down some ridiculous hand to river you...and I will tell them what I think in a nice impolite manner...then I add them to my buddy list and try to always sit down with them because they will give you their money eventually!
I think venting is good, it actually keeps me off tilt...keeping the anger inside tilts me.
Just to clarify - I don't mean this to sound like a bad beat post - I would say after getting really pissed at my intended targets I tilted enough that I doled out my fair share of bad beats so I can't complain on that front
Its more about how not to "retaliate"
Cheers
Scots
(I was in the hand with RoJoSox... Bluto wasn't involved at all. I'd just taken RoJo's stack by getting it all in preflop with the worst of it and getting lucky on the river)
Bluto: mmph
RoJoSox: he probably put me on A3
Aces_All: didn't put u on kings with that massive preflop overbet, that's for sure
Aces_All: looked like a bet that didn't want to be called
Bluto: like what?
Aces_All: were u in the hand bluto?
Aces_All: oh, no i just checked and u weren't
Bluto: just curious what you thought you could beat
Aces_All: your ass in the next 45 minutes
Bluto: no need to be defensive
Aces_All: stop needling then
Aces_All: and i'll stop defending
Bluto: ok
Ha, that's great.
way of handling those situations is different now that
I've played a million tourneys or so. OK, it's probably only
a few hundred, but it feels like a million. lol I've found
my emotions less affected by others, as my play volume over
the long term has increased. Now, if I have to, I take out
my frustrations in the notes window.
name under the sun while describing their stupid plays. It
tends to turn my rage into a smile as I type the insults
into the notes window......hehe Also a good thing to have
those notes if you ever face that opponent again. If your
revenge is a month or two later, is it any less sweet?
Poker is a mental game. Some people make up for lack of
skill by trying to put you off your game. I prepare for
that by realizing it for what it is, when it happens.
Of course if you run into a quality player who also uses
those same tactics, you could be in trouble. lol
C'mon DJP... he asked what I thought I could beat and I said his ass in the next 45 minutes. You can't beat that, dude!
BTW he bubbled out and I finished ITM. HA!
I am so mature.
ScottyZ
It took me a minute, but I got it. Nice one!
See, I have proof I liked it. Hell I wish I'd said it, but I
have a reason I've changed my own tactics. I was verbally
abusing someone who deserved it, on stars, last year. Well
he got so frustrated he complained. I was on a short leash
for awhile so I adjusted my umm.. technique of dealing with
people. The other guy actually started it, but I beat him
into submission then he ended up whining to support to
review the chat logs. lol We were both warned it couldn't
happen again without punishment.
Another guy once threatened to track me down and come to my
house. I said "bring it on pal, I'm armed." He said "Don't
make fun of me, I have the resorces to find you." I said,
"If you can't even spell resources, you probably don't have
any."
Turns out he has K8, so there are three cards in the deck that are live for him and he needs to hit at least two of them to beat me! Damned if 2 8s dont drop and instead of going up to over 200k in chips, Im down to 80k.
I was so dumbstruck by this beat that I just could not stop myself from ridiculing him in the chat window. The guy made a terrible call and got rediculously lucky and I was just unable to let him live it down. Ive needled people in the window before but this was almost uncontrollable.
In the end this player came in second for a cool 12k in prize money. I finished 7th and took home 3k, but regardless, the whole time I kept thinking, that could easily have been me if not for this guy pulling a ridiculously unlikely miracle after making an absolutely terrible decision. I just couldnt stomach it.
I try to keep my emotions in check but lately playing 3/6 on party poker has turned into BINGO.
I can't seem to get ahead these days. So I usually just wait for some smart a$$ comment from one of the super loose players who just raped me with 3-9 off suit or something like that and I attack.
Usually ends with the table laughing at the other dude. I will say something ... they will say somethign stupid, I will hit him again ... then they usually bust me with wack cards.
I have only had a person freak out on me once. I played JQh and when the flop came down Ah, Kh, 9d, I got s*it on for chasing and hitting my flush. (Angry player held AK)
Just thought I would share.
Ya, and potentially laughing at you too, since they now know you're tilting. I've been there many times too. If the guy is completely clueless I try to just give a "nh" while swearing a blue streak at the computer. I don't want the clueless to get a clue, so I try not to berate them. My big problem is when an idiot that THINKS they know what they're doing starts to defend their play, or starts to criticize my play. Then I just LOSE it (champ style). I think one of my favourite fish beratings happened once at Brantford when a guy kept complaining that his pocket pairs never held up (the guy had 22 I think). Before anyone could say anything (I was chuckling inside already since this guy expects way too much out of small pocket pairs), the DEALER chimes in "Ya, maybe you need to learn how to fold them when it's 2 bets to you on the flop and the board has 3 overcards". I was laughing my ass off, but also wanted to tell the dealer to shut the @#$% up, since I want the idiots to keep chasing those 2 outers...
on one of the other players at the table. The other guy
never responded, but after I'd had enough of this guy and
his advice about bad players, I finally chimed in...
His last comment was something like..."that was such a bad
play, how can you play cards like that?"
When the other fella still said nothing, I replied...
"If someone at your table is playing poorly, why say
anything at all? You make more money by keeping quiet."
He never made another comment after that. lol