Maintaining the integrety of the game
This situation recently occurred at my local casino where i deal at and i would like some feedback from other players, dealers and supervisor/poker managers. play goes normally until after the flop; there is some betting and tthen the dealer burns a card before everyone has acted, realizes this and allows the betting round to finish, but he does not place the burn card back on top of the deck. With the betting round complete, there are 3 players left in the pot, the dealer burns again and deals the turn card without realizing he has made a mistake. Several players see this and say nothing. THere is action on the turn, still 3 remaining. Action on the river, one player goes all-in, action betwwen the two reamaining players creates a side pot. Player one in the side pot rolls the nuts ,player 2 mucks, side pot awarded. At this point the player in for the main, complains that there was an extra burn card after the flop. What do we do now? Is the integretity of the game maintained if we play the board as it is shown, or does the fact that the dealer made an error make the hand dead and the have players chips returned to them(either all players who were involved or just the players involved after the mistake was made)? Please state whether u are speaking as a player , dealer or supervisor.
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Was the guy who ended up complaining one of the "several players"Â who saw and said nothing???
As a dealer, your first move is to raise your hand and loudly call "FLOOR". You supervisor should indicate that the side pot has been awarded without dispute, therefore the hand stands. Once a pot is pushed, it cannot be unpushed. Therefore the board plays, as you cannot now change the board once awarding the side pot.
It is the resposibility of all those at the table (players, dealers, supervisors, managers) to point out faults in the game as it is being dealt/played. Those "several players" should ask themselves if: a)Do they want to be awarded pots unfairly; and b)Do they want to lose pots unfairly, all because someone didn't speak up about an error.
As a player, I expect this from a dealer. Any competant floor should rule that all action stands.
I'm not so sure about this... I've seen pots get "unpushed" when they are improperly awarded.
Tell me this doesn't happen... If any floor made this ruling, I would not play there... No reasonable person expects dealers to be perfect, nothing done in this situation effects the games integrety, with possible exception of the angle-shoot from original complainer "after" he realizes he's not getting the pot!
Sorry this post is somewhat late but the question is important enough that I wanted to put in a reply.