Playing the shortstack
heres a couple hands from the stars $215 - please comment on the plays
Hand #1
PokerStars Game #2711999416: Tournament #12671146, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/10/02 - 18:11:24 (ET)
Table '12671146 119' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Saturn21 (845 in chips)
Seat 2: Homer03 (2675 in chips)
Seat 3: Trenndy (3362 in chips)
Seat 4: Bi-Polarbear (4235 in chips)
Seat 5: TENPIN10 (6430 in chips)
Seat 6: 7Rock7 (1870 in chips)
Seat 7: caserd (7300 in chips)
Seat 8: ToMo73 (4820 in chips)
Seat 9: the_main (1160 in chips)
Saturn21: posts the ante 25
Homer03: posts the ante 25
Trenndy: posts the ante 25
Bi-Polarbear: posts the ante 25
TENPIN10: posts the ante 25
7Rock7: posts the ante 25
caserd: posts the ante 25
ToMo73: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts small blind 100
Saturn21: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_main [3d 3h]
Homer03: folds
Trenndy: folds
Bi-Polarbear: folds
TENPIN10: folds
7Rock7: folds
caserd: raises 400 to 600
ToMo73: folds
the_main: ?
Now I'm worried that a push from me gives the BB odds to call with any 2, and im not keen on facing 4 overs
I muck - turns out i wouldve tripled up
HAND #2
PokerStars Game #2711895193: Tournament #12671146, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/10/02 - 17:57:28 (ET)
Table '12671146 119' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mobay (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: Homer03 (3205 in chips)
Seat 3: Trenndy (4062 in chips)
Seat 4: Bi-Polarbear (4735 in chips)
Seat 5: TENPIN10 (3170 in chips)
Seat 6: 7Rock7 (2270 in chips)
Seat 7: caserd (6950 in chips)
Seat 8: ToMo73 (2285 in chips)
Seat 9: the_main (1160 in chips)
7Rock7: posts small blind 100
caserd: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_main [5h 5d]
ToMo73: raises 200 to 400
the_main: ?
Tomo was a very tight player, and his min-raise UTG terrified me...
I folded, and it was folded around to him
FYI, i open this pot with an all-in bet if Tomo folds
HAND #3
PokerStars Game #2712013061: Tournament #12671146, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/10/02 - 18:13:15 (ET)
Table '12671146 119' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Saturn21 (1840 in chips)
Seat 2: Homer03 (2425 in chips)
Seat 3: Trenndy (3312 in chips)
Seat 4: Bi-Polarbear (4710 in chips)
Seat 5: TENPIN10 (6380 in chips)
Seat 6: 7Rock7 (1820 in chips)
Seat 7: caserd (6430 in chips)
Seat 8: ToMo73 (4770 in chips)
Seat 9: the_main (1010 in chips)
Saturn21: posts the ante 25
Homer03: posts the ante 25
Trenndy: posts the ante 25
Bi-Polarbear: posts the ante 25
TENPIN10: posts the ante 25
7Rock7: posts the ante 25
caserd: posts the ante 25
ToMo73: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts the ante 25
Homer03: posts small blind 100
Trenndy: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_main [Qs Jd]
Bi-Polarbear: raises 400 to 600
TENPIN10: folds
7Rock7: folds
caserd: folds
ToMo73: folds
the_main: ?
With only 1000 in my stack, do I make this call?
I folded, and 2 people went all in behind me.... original raiser folded
they showed AK and AQ and the board was QJQxK
HAND #4 -
okerStars Game #2712050734: Tournament #12671146, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/10/02 - 18:18:19 (ET)
Table '12671146 119' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: tech punk (8989 in chips)
Seat 2: Homer03 (2675 in chips)
Seat 3: Trenndy (5777 in chips)
Seat 4: Bi-Polarbear (3635 in chips)
Seat 5: TENPIN10 (5505 in chips)
Seat 6: 7Rock7 (1345 in chips)
Seat 7: caserd (5955 in chips)
Seat 8: ToMo73 (2895 in chips)
Seat 9: the_main (1860 in chips)
tech punk: posts the ante 25
Homer03: posts the ante 25
Trenndy: posts the ante 25
Bi-Polarbear: posts the ante 25
TENPIN10: posts the ante 25
7Rock7: posts the ante 25
caserd: posts the ante 25
ToMo73: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts small blind 100
tech punk: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_main [6d 6s]
Homer03: calls 200
Trenndy: calls 200
Bi-Polarbear: folds
TENPIN10: calls 200
7Rock7: folds
caserd: folds
ToMo73: calls 200
the_main: ?
Pretty obvious here i think. I push, tomo calls and i triple through....
Please share your thoughts
Hand #1
PokerStars Game #2711999416: Tournament #12671146, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/10/02 - 18:11:24 (ET)
Table '12671146 119' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Saturn21 (845 in chips)
Seat 2: Homer03 (2675 in chips)
Seat 3: Trenndy (3362 in chips)
Seat 4: Bi-Polarbear (4235 in chips)
Seat 5: TENPIN10 (6430 in chips)
Seat 6: 7Rock7 (1870 in chips)
Seat 7: caserd (7300 in chips)
Seat 8: ToMo73 (4820 in chips)
Seat 9: the_main (1160 in chips)
Saturn21: posts the ante 25
Homer03: posts the ante 25
Trenndy: posts the ante 25
Bi-Polarbear: posts the ante 25
TENPIN10: posts the ante 25
7Rock7: posts the ante 25
caserd: posts the ante 25
ToMo73: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts small blind 100
Saturn21: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_main [3d 3h]
Homer03: folds
Trenndy: folds
Bi-Polarbear: folds
TENPIN10: folds
7Rock7: folds
caserd: raises 400 to 600
ToMo73: folds
the_main: ?
Now I'm worried that a push from me gives the BB odds to call with any 2, and im not keen on facing 4 overs
I muck - turns out i wouldve tripled up
HAND #2
PokerStars Game #2711895193: Tournament #12671146, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/10/02 - 17:57:28 (ET)
Table '12671146 119' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mobay (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: Homer03 (3205 in chips)
Seat 3: Trenndy (4062 in chips)
Seat 4: Bi-Polarbear (4735 in chips)
Seat 5: TENPIN10 (3170 in chips)
Seat 6: 7Rock7 (2270 in chips)
Seat 7: caserd (6950 in chips)
Seat 8: ToMo73 (2285 in chips)
Seat 9: the_main (1160 in chips)
7Rock7: posts small blind 100
caserd: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_main [5h 5d]
ToMo73: raises 200 to 400
the_main: ?
Tomo was a very tight player, and his min-raise UTG terrified me...
I folded, and it was folded around to him
FYI, i open this pot with an all-in bet if Tomo folds
HAND #3
PokerStars Game #2712013061: Tournament #12671146, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/10/02 - 18:13:15 (ET)
Table '12671146 119' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Saturn21 (1840 in chips)
Seat 2: Homer03 (2425 in chips)
Seat 3: Trenndy (3312 in chips)
Seat 4: Bi-Polarbear (4710 in chips)
Seat 5: TENPIN10 (6380 in chips)
Seat 6: 7Rock7 (1820 in chips)
Seat 7: caserd (6430 in chips)
Seat 8: ToMo73 (4770 in chips)
Seat 9: the_main (1010 in chips)
Saturn21: posts the ante 25
Homer03: posts the ante 25
Trenndy: posts the ante 25
Bi-Polarbear: posts the ante 25
TENPIN10: posts the ante 25
7Rock7: posts the ante 25
caserd: posts the ante 25
ToMo73: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts the ante 25
Homer03: posts small blind 100
Trenndy: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_main [Qs Jd]
Bi-Polarbear: raises 400 to 600
TENPIN10: folds
7Rock7: folds
caserd: folds
ToMo73: folds
the_main: ?
With only 1000 in my stack, do I make this call?
I folded, and 2 people went all in behind me.... original raiser folded
they showed AK and AQ and the board was QJQxK
HAND #4 -
okerStars Game #2712050734: Tournament #12671146, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/10/02 - 18:18:19 (ET)
Table '12671146 119' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: tech punk (8989 in chips)
Seat 2: Homer03 (2675 in chips)
Seat 3: Trenndy (5777 in chips)
Seat 4: Bi-Polarbear (3635 in chips)
Seat 5: TENPIN10 (5505 in chips)
Seat 6: 7Rock7 (1345 in chips)
Seat 7: caserd (5955 in chips)
Seat 8: ToMo73 (2895 in chips)
Seat 9: the_main (1860 in chips)
tech punk: posts the ante 25
Homer03: posts the ante 25
Trenndy: posts the ante 25
Bi-Polarbear: posts the ante 25
TENPIN10: posts the ante 25
7Rock7: posts the ante 25
caserd: posts the ante 25
ToMo73: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts the ante 25
the_main: posts small blind 100
tech punk: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_main [6d 6s]
Homer03: calls 200
Trenndy: calls 200
Bi-Polarbear: folds
TENPIN10: calls 200
7Rock7: folds
caserd: folds
ToMo73: calls 200
the_main: ?
Pretty obvious here i think. I push, tomo calls and i triple through....
Please share your thoughts
Comments
Hand 2: I would be terrified too. I like folding here. Al-in can't be that big a mistake though.Â
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Hand 3: This is a pretty easy fold imo. QJ is garbage against a raise, you need to be first in with it. You have a few more hands before the blind to find a better spot. (ie opening all-in with any 2 cards)
Hand 4: It depends what the limps represent. You have enough chips that completing and hoping for a flop isn't terrible, but unless you're pretty sure someone has a bigger pair and is going to call you need to get all-in with excellent pot odds. Â
One of the guys here gave a great piece of advise though recently. When your short stacked, you want the other players to chase YOU, not you chase them.
For what it's worth, here's what I would have most likely have done, and please don't consider this gospel, cause it's just what I would have done in your shoes:
Hand 1:
PUSH allin. I'm in a spot here, not the shortest stack, but enough so that I would need a double up just to get back in the game again.
Hand 2:
Now I AM short stacked. But the read from the raiser is he is a tight player, I know he has something to kill me off. As much as I would hate to do it, I would probably fold to him.
Hand 3:
QJ? Risky at best. Villian isn't chip leader, but he's healthy enough to warrant reconsideration. Even with the folds to you, I would have folded as well.
Hand 4:
PUSH allin. Limpers all around, I would think my 6's are pretty decent at the moment, and an allin bet just might them fold to me. It's a gamble at best, but again, your chip postion warrants a risk.
Well, that's my opinion, and for the most part, it's probably why I don't do so well in short stack situations. Would like to see other's responses to both your original post as well as mine.
I would have pushed all-in, perhaps I panic a bit early being short stacked but in this case I'm happy getting my chips in with any pocket pair. I have been in this position before and usually my low pair does not hold up....but BB is in a desperate situation as well so is going all-in the right move here? BB, I believe, will call with any two cards....so what to do??????